July 30th, 2017, 08:27 PM | #1 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Nick
Location: USA
Join Date: Apr 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 109
|
No electrical power - ignition, lights, etc
Hey ya'll,
So, I get the idea on Friday that I'm going to rip out my carbs to: -Clean them -Shim the needles -Bench Sync -Remove the fuel/air caps So, I get everything torn apart, and get all of the above done. Now, I install the carbs into the bike. I start up the bike, and it's running bad. I test for vaccum leaks- bingo. Found the issue, and resolved that. Next up, I am adjusting the air/fuel idle screws and I turned one too far and the bike shut off. It wouldn't start, and eventually the starter killed the battery. (I need a new battery obviously.) I turn the screw back, get the jump box I have, hook it up and bam- bike starts up just fine. I continue with setting the screws, and get the back to where I like it (soooo smooth by the way ), and shut it off. I put everything the rest of the way back together: Battery box, battery, fairings, gas tank, etc. I swing my leg over, flip the switch, and NOTHING. No dash, no lights, no horn, NOTHING. So, I'm like wtf, battery must be dead. Tear off the kneepad fairings, the seat, hook up the jumpbox....and nothing. wtf. Take the battery out, hook the jumpbox directly to the terminals, and nothing. Charge the jumpbox all the way full, try above again, nothing. I followed the wires from the battery terminal- the ground wire is secure on the frame, and the positive wire going to the main 30 a fuse is secure, as well is the ground. I also checked the 30a fuse itself- it's fine. Following it further, the wire on the starter motor is also fine. I looked around the ignition, and the big green plug up there on the right side is plugged in. (Assuming this is the ignition plug) At this point in time, I'm totally lost. I can do mechanical stuff all day long, valves, carbs, suspension, final drive etc. But, electrical is out of my wheelhouse. So, if someone could help me track this stupid electrical issue down, I would love you and also paypal you enough to buy yourself some dinner and a case of beer. |
|
July 30th, 2017, 09:03 PM | #2 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
|
Do you have voltmeter? Electricity is like water, it flows along. If you end up somewhere with dry creek-bed, there's the problem.
So start by measuring voltage at battery terminals. Then measure voltage at the next cable-connector, main fuse and solenoid. Do you get power past that at next downstream connector? When cranking? |
|
July 30th, 2017, 11:19 PM | #4 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Nick
Location: USA
Join Date: Apr 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 109
|
Quote:
It does not click. Totally silent. |
|
|
July 31st, 2017, 09:23 AM | #5 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: -
Location: somewhere cold
Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 596
Blog Entries: 1
|
Test the relay by short circuiting the terminals under the fuse with the screwdriver, make sure to not touch the frame.
If the starter turns over, then you need to inspect all the wiring originating from the 4-pin plug (red cover). https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...3&postcount=26 Wiring diagram, see the fuse/motor/battery group at the bottom right, follow it upwards to the other starter relay. Look for burnt wiring or plugs. If the starter does not turn over, there is a problem with the relay itself, the motor, the negative/positive wiring leading to the two terminals on the relay, or the battery. |
|
July 31st, 2017, 05:04 PM | #6 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Nick
Location: USA
Join Date: Apr 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 109
|
Alright Matt, you're onto something here.
Jumping the two terminals on the underside of the relay starts the bike! |
|
July 31st, 2017, 05:25 PM | #7 | |
ninjette.org member
Name: Nick
Location: USA
Join Date: Apr 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 109
|
Quote:
Thanks!! What's your paypal address! |
|
|
July 31st, 2017, 10:50 PM | #9 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Nick
Location: USA
Join Date: Apr 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 109
|
|
|
November 22nd, 2019, 04:31 PM | #10 |
ninjette.org newbie
Name: CJ
Location: Phoenix AZ
Join Date: Nov 2019 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 1
|
Had this same problem today. Mine ended up bring corrosion on the 30A fuse, it worked when i removed and reinstalled it!
|
|
January 5th, 2020, 08:50 AM | #11 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Deano
Location: Philadelphia
Join Date: Sep 2019 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250 Posts: 20
|
Check idle adjuster knob. Sounds silly but you may have backed the cable all the way out from it being connected to throttle plate on carb.
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
How does power get to the ignition switch | Akanoodle | 1986 - 2007 Ninja 250R Tech Talk | 3 | July 23rd, 2013 04:33 PM |
Lack of electrical power | The_big_dill | 1986 - 2007 Ninja 250R Tech Talk | 4 | July 9th, 2013 08:21 PM |
[motorcyclistonline] - New Permatex® Liquid Electrical Tape Keeps Electrical Connect | Ninjette Newsbot | Motorcycling News | 0 | February 26th, 2011 01:20 AM |
|
|