I did my 1st oil change question!

Duvivr6 · July 1st, 2009, 08:45 AM

alright another Oil post i know!!

but i followed the DIY for the oil change and I filled it upo in between the 2 lines, but i did it on the stand and if I try to level the bike by hand which is awefully hard it goes all the way up to the top level!

ok so if I sit on it and look while trying to have it level then it goes down again so i'm all confused

any tip to figuring this out!?

CANTFUNCTION · July 1st, 2009, 08:53 AM

try holding the bike from the right side. use your leg to hold it up so you can look at the glass.

Or have someone hold it up for you while you look

OldGuy · July 1st, 2009, 09:18 AM

Duvi - without a rear stand to hold the bike I would suggest you use a piece of 2x4 under the side stand. It wont make it exactly level but it will be close enough and the weight will be on the 2x4 and stand.

Until you are really familiar with your bike I would not try to balance it by hand, on the right side, bent over looking at the oil level. If it starts to go on you . . . well let's say it wont be pretty.

Snake · July 1st, 2009, 09:38 AM

What does the owners manual say on how to check the oil level? The owners manual for the "pre-gen" says to check it with the bike on the centerstand which the "new-gen does not have. So go by what the manual tells you to do.

Alex · July 1st, 2009, 09:44 AM

Bike needs to be straight up and down for the oil sight glass to be accurate. Easiest way is to get a helper. You sit on bike, helper gives you a thumbs up that the oil is in between the two lines. Second easiest way is on front/rear stands if they hold the bike relatively level. Anything other than that will require you to find a way to be able to see the sight glass while the bike is sitting straight up and down.

I know what kkim did is to first confirm that the oil level was correct, then he put the bike on just his rear stand to see where the correct level in the sight glass would be when on a rear stand; now he can check the oil level when it's just on a rear stand.

Nemy · July 1st, 2009, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duvivr6

alright another Oil post i know!!

but i followed the DIY for the oil change and I filled it upo in between the 2 lines, but i did it on the stand and if I try to level the bike by hand which is awefully hard it goes all the way up to the top level!

ok so if I sit on it and look while trying to have it level then it goes down again so i'm all confused

any tip to figuring this out!?

It is normal for the oil level to be higher when it's level and not on it's sidestand. But always check the oil when the bike's level and on a level surface. As long as it's at the top line now and not above it you will be fine.

Nemy · July 1st, 2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

What does the owners manual say on how to check the oil level? The owners manual for the "pre-gen" says to check it with the bike on the centerstand which the "new-gen does not have. So go by what the manual tells you to do.

Are you sure? IIRC my 06 manual said on a level surface too (i.e. not on side or center stand)

HKr1 · July 1st, 2009, 10:25 AM

I just add two quarts with filter change. Start it up for a minute, turn it off and see if there's oil in the window...... I see oil, Iam done

tjkamper · July 1st, 2009, 10:45 AM

If you dont have stands or a friend.
Get on the right side of the bike.
Place your left hand on the rear seat and apply the front break with your right hand.
Go down to one knee.
Pull the bike lightly towards you untill it feels weightless. (that is when it is balanced upright).
Look at the glass.
Let the bike roll softly back to its left side by straightening your elbows.
Let go of the bike once it is securly set on it's side stand.
Stand up.

Your done!

tjkamper · July 1st, 2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

I just add two quarts with filter change. Start it up for a minute, turn it off and see if there's oil in the window...... I see oil, Iam done

Manual says 1.7 quarts for oil and filter change. 1.4 for just oil.

noche_caliente · July 1st, 2009, 02:29 PM

I cheat and hold the camera low with the lcd screen rotated so I can see it

HKr1 · July 1st, 2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjkamper

Manual says 1.7 quarts for oil and filter change. 1.4 for just oil.

Extra .3 puts it at the top of the window

Just make sure its 2 Quarts & not 2 Liters

BlueRaven · July 1st, 2009, 06:52 PM

isn't 1 quart = 1 litre? Mom checked her conversion chart cause we only have litres on our oil containers and she said a litre was equal to a quart.

Alex · July 1st, 2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRaven

isn't 1 quart = 1 litre?

It's close, but different enough to matter:

1 US quart = 0.946352946 liters

(thanks, google conversions!)

BlueRaven · July 1st, 2009, 07:00 PM

Well close enough for me. I asked her to have an idea on how much oil i was gonna need. Another day or two riding and i'll be ready for my next oil change, going synthetic.

tjkamper · July 2nd, 2009, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRaven

Well close enough for me. I asked her to have an idea on how much oil i was gonna need. Another day or two riding and i'll be ready for my next oil change, going synthetic.

You'll love the synthetic. I was shocked at how different the bike felt after changing.

Duvivr6 · July 2nd, 2009, 08:58 AM

yeah I did the rotella T synthetic but I did over fill it so now I am debating if I should find somehw to take it out from the cap or loosen the drain bolt!

it is not that much I maybe put 2.2q in it

noche_caliente · July 2nd, 2009, 11:44 AM

Duvi, you can just loosen the drain bolt to let some come back out, or you could use a long pipette like a turkey baster to take some back out of the top

backinthesaddleagain · July 2nd, 2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjkamper

If you dont have stands or a friend.
Get on the right side of the bike.
Place your left hand on the rear seat and apply the front break with your right hand.
Go down to one knee.
Pull the bike lightly towards you untill it feels weightless. (that is when it is balanced upright).
Look at the glass.
Let the bike roll softly back to its left side by straightening your elbows.
Let go of the bike once it is securly set on it's side stand.
Stand up.

Your done!

works for me.

patzcool · July 7th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

Extra .3 puts it at the top of the window

Just make sure its 2 Quarts & not 2 Liters

wow... thank you so much bro HKr1... your information very useful for me..

July 1st, 2009, 08:45 AM	#1
Duvivr6 ninjette.org member Name: Duvi Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Special Ed Posts: 99	I did my 1st oil change question! alright another Oil post i know!! but i followed the DIY for the oil change and I filled it upo in between the 2 lines, but i did it on the stand and if I try to level the bike by hand which is awefully hard it goes all the way up to the top level! ok so if I sit on it and look while trying to have it level then it goes down again so i'm all confused any tip to figuring this out!?

July 1st, 2009, 09:18 AM	#3
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Duvi - without a rear stand to hold the bike I would suggest you use a piece of 2x4 under the side stand. It wont make it exactly level but it will be close enough and the weight will be on the 2x4 and stand. Until you are really familiar with your bike I would not try to balance it by hand, on the right side, bent over looking at the oil level. If it starts to go on you . . . well let's say it wont be pretty. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

July 1st, 2009, 09:44 AM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Bike needs to be straight up and down for the oil sight glass to be accurate. Easiest way is to get a helper. You sit on bike, helper gives you a thumbs up that the oil is in between the two lines. Second easiest way is on front/rear stands if they hold the bike relatively level. Anything other than that will require you to find a way to be able to see the sight glass while the bike is sitting straight up and down. I know what kkim did is to first confirm that the oil level was correct, then he put the bike on just his rear stand to see where the correct level in the sight glass would be when on a rear stand; now he can check the oil level when it's just on a rear stand. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

July 1st, 2009, 10:45 AM	#9
tjkamper ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Travis Location: Warwick, RI Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	If you dont have stands or a friend. Get on the right side of the bike. Place your left hand on the rear seat and apply the front break with your right hand. Go down to one knee. Pull the bike lightly towards you untill it feels weightless. (that is when it is balanced upright). Look at the glass. Let the bike roll softly back to its left side by straightening your elbows. Let go of the bike once it is securly set on it's side stand. Stand up. Your done! __________________________________________________ Addicted to anything that has an engine and rolls.

July 1st, 2009, 02:29 PM	#11
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	I cheat and hold the camera low with the lcd screen rotated so I can see it __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

July 1st, 2009, 08:53 AM	#2
CANTFUNCTION ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Georgia Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250(red) Posts: 193	try holding the bike from the right side. use your leg to hold it up so you can look at the glass. Or have someone hold it up for you while you look

July 1st, 2009, 09:38 AM	#4
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	What does the owners manual say on how to check the oil level? The owners manual for the "pre-gen" says to check it with the bike on the centerstand which the "new-gen does not have. So go by what the manual tells you to do.

July 1st, 2009, 10:25 AM	#8
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	I just add two quarts with filter change. Start it up for a minute, turn it off and see if there's oil in the window...... I see oil, Iam done

July 1st, 2009, 06:52 PM	#13
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	isn't 1 quart = 1 litre? Mom checked her conversion chart cause we only have litres on our oil containers and she said a litre was equal to a quart. __________________________________________________ I'm not small, I'm fun sized

July 1st, 2009, 07:00 PM	#15
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	Well close enough for me. I asked her to have an idea on how much oil i was gonna need. Another day or two riding and i'll be ready for my next oil change, going synthetic. __________________________________________________ I'm not small, I'm fun sized

July 2nd, 2009, 08:58 AM	#17
Duvivr6 ninjette.org member Name: Duvi Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R Special Ed Posts: 99	yeah I did the rotella T synthetic but I did over fill it so now I am debating if I should find somehw to take it out from the cap or loosen the drain bolt! it is not that much I maybe put 2.2q in it

July 2nd, 2009, 11:44 AM	#18
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	Duvi, you can just loosen the drain bolt to let some come back out, or you could use a long pipette like a turkey baster to take some back out of the top __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

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