!@#$!ing bar ends! Torch, impact screwdriver, breaker bar, etc ALL failed. :( - Page 2

headshrink · July 24th, 2011, 05:36 PM

I also got mine off easily with an impact wrench, and adapter from my impact screwdriver to accept the bit.

Everything before that was useless... even the impact screwdriver itself (the kind you hit with a hammer). Although, at the time I didn't have a torch....

CZroe · July 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalony

The heat gun has a switch that allows you to set it at two different temps. the sucker gets pretty hot.http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...112-96289.html

No attachments came with this one. they werent needed though. It didnt damage my grips at all. Instead of aiming inline with the bar I aimed it 90 degrees to the barend so only the end was grabbing the heat. I used an impact driver as well, but it didnt take much with the heat gun on it.

The parking lot situation kinda sucks. Extension cord? Or maybe a friends house. propane torch was another good idea. if that screw head is too damaged you might have to drill it out. You could get an extractor bit too. If you end up drilling, start with a larger bit to clean up the gnarled up head, then go into the bolt with a smaller bit.

Already done at great expense (see OP

).

Buffalony · July 25th, 2011, 12:42 AM

Ok. so where are you at on this project. you have one off and the other still stuck on right?

CZroe · July 26th, 2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalony

Ok. so where are you at on this project. you have one off and the other still stuck on right?

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Originally Posted by CZroe

!@$#!ing barends, man.

...and I ended up having to pay someone $37 to remove it.

I came into this knowing what I would need and thinking I was completely prepared and yet I still ended up having to get this taken care of by a professional for way too much money....

I haven't installed my SV650 clip on bars which do fit my new universal bar ends so I've got the original bar ends back in with no Loctite (Floyd gave me one to replace the drilled-out one). I used a wire brush to clean it all out of the threads.

Buffalony · July 26th, 2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

I haven't installed my SV650 clip on bars the do fit my new bar ends so I've got the original bar ends back in with no Loctite. Floyd gave me one to replace the drilled-out one). I used a wire brush to clean it all out of the threads.

Sounds like success. Drill worked well enough? Congrats.
I'll agree somebody IS going red Loctite crazy at the factory

CZroe · July 27th, 2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalony

Sounds like success. Drill worked well enough? Congrats.
I'll agree somebody IS going red Loctite crazy at the factory

Success only after giving up and paying someone $37 to do it. It stings even more when I think about the cost of everything else (pencil torch, alternate torch, butane cylinder, impact screwdriver, etc). I guess one-time use tools from Harbor Freight aren't even that (my third pencil torch failed too; didn't get a single successful use). Not sure I learned my lesson because I'd still probably go for the cheaper, more portable tool next time!

Suave · July 29th, 2011, 09:53 PM

I got it done with ease. The stock bar-end/handlebars might be bent a little but I don't need them now anyway since I have Woodcraft clip-ons

But all I did was get vise grips on as tight as possible, I mean TIGHT onto the bar ends, then take a rubber mallet and just give it a good whack and it'll break that sucker lose no problem.

almost40 · July 29th, 2011, 10:02 PM

I used propane
#2 bit and a socket wrench with the proper socket to fit the #2 bit

Mr.E · October 30th, 2011, 02:18 PM

Bump. So I got one end off with an impact screw driver, sadly, my left bar wasnt so lucky and stripped completely (Idk why, it was a #3). Anywho, what do I do now? I keep hearing people drill off their stripped ones, but then how do you get out the end of the screw from the bike itself? Should I find where around here who can remove it for me? I.e. a mechanic or something? Help purty please.

greatwhiteninja · October 30th, 2011, 02:32 PM

drill out the head, until it just falls off. the bar end will come off too. then take a good pair of vice grips and the pc sticking out should remove fairly easy.

Mr.E · October 30th, 2011, 04:25 PM

worked like a charm, thanks Ed.

greatwhiteninja · October 30th, 2011, 04:27 PM

Np.. glad it worked

Mr.E · October 31st, 2011, 01:20 PM

Out of curiosity, I need a new screw, so is it fine to ride without barends? The grips are glued in real tight, but I dont want to ride if they had a greater purpose...

CZroe · October 31st, 2011, 01:27 PM

I rode without for a while. Might be more likely to get a tank slapper... or less. *shrug*

DarC · October 31st, 2011, 01:41 PM

Just will have some more vibration, may make your hands numb after awhile if you are especially sensitive to it. I ran woodcrafts without bar ends for thousands of miles without any problems...just a little vibration/buzzing.

rabies · September 12th, 2012, 09:08 AM

pencil torch = horse bladder

headshrink · September 12th, 2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rabies

pencil torch = horse bladder

LOL, what?

rabies · September 12th, 2012, 09:26 AM

humorous randomness saying that those pencil torches are junk before they leave the factory

headshrink · September 12th, 2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rabies

humorous randomness saying that those pencil torches are junk before they leave the factory

Ah, gotcha.

Although perhaps ineffective for removing bar ends, I do love my little butane pencil soldering iron. I use it now more than the big electric soldering station, and not just because of the portability... which is very nice. I liken it to big electric stove top vs. a basic model gas range.

CThunder-blue · September 12th, 2012, 01:38 PM

This is the case of "the right tool for the job." I didn't use any torches or heating elements to remove my bar ends. I bought a #3 JIS screw driver and took it off in 10 seconds. I use my #2 and my #3 JIS screw drivers when I work on the bike. Philips will strip out JIS screws pretty fast.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japane...rivers/=j9i7sr

DennyV · September 12th, 2012, 02:16 PM

ehh or just use quality phillips drivers... like Snap-on =) to get mine out, i put a wet towel over the grips, hit it with a benzo torch, then took my #3 impact driver to it, came right out

choneofakind · September 12th, 2012, 09:04 PM

I just drilled the head off the screw with a 1/4" bit. Problem solved.

Jiggles · September 12th, 2012, 11:11 PM

I used a lighter to heat them up and a big ole fatty phillips to take em out

Redgeneral · September 13th, 2012, 05:25 AM

Zombie thread...but oh well.

I didn't use heat at all. 24" Breaker bar with #3 Phillips socket. Came out with no problem at all.

headshrink · September 13th, 2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I used a lighter to heat them up and a big ole fatty Phillips to take em out

I tried that out of desperation when nothing was working. When that failed I ordered the impact hammer that had attachments to but the included Phillips bit onto my pneumatic impact wrench. This was the only thing that would budge it for me, without a significant risk of stripping the screw head. I've been enjoying the Throttlemeisters I put in the stock ends place, although I very rarely lock the throttle.

July 24th, 2011, 05:36 PM	#41
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I also got mine off easily with an impact wrench, and adapter from my impact screwdriver to accept the bit. Everything before that was useless... even the impact screwdriver itself (the kind you hit with a hammer). Although, at the time I didn't have a torch.... __________________________________________________ Honda Interceptor VFR800 DLX (2014, 8th gen) Honda CBR500r (2014) - FOR SALE Kawi Ninja 250r (2008) - Restored and passed-down within family, only to be abandoned Last futzed with by headshrink; July 24th, 2011 at 06:21 PM. Reason: spelling, as always

July 25th, 2011, 12:42 AM	#43
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	Ok. so where are you at on this project. you have one off and the other still stuck on right? __________________________________________________

July 29th, 2011, 09:53 PM	#47
Suave ninjette.org member Name: Mark Location: Maryville, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r Posts: 94	I got it done with ease. The stock bar-end/handlebars might be bent a little but I don't need them now anyway since I have Woodcraft clip-ons But all I did was get vise grips on as tight as possible, I mean TIGHT onto the bar ends, then take a rubber mallet and just give it a good whack and it'll break that sucker lose no problem. __________________________________________________ "Hey man, I'm not tryin' to start nothin'. But... i wouldn't take that"

October 30th, 2011, 02:18 PM	#49
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	Bump. So I got one end off with an impact screw driver, sadly, my left bar wasnt so lucky and stripped completely (Idk why, it was a #3). Anywho, what do I do now? I keep hearing people drill off their stripped ones, but then how do you get out the end of the screw from the bike itself? Should I find where around here who can remove it for me? I.e. a mechanic or something? Help purty please. __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

October 30th, 2011, 02:32 PM	#50
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	drill out the head, until it just falls off. the bar end will come off too. then take a good pair of vice grips and the pc sticking out should remove fairly easy. __________________________________________________ #1

October 30th, 2011, 04:25 PM	#51
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	worked like a charm, thanks Ed. __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

October 30th, 2011, 04:27 PM	#52
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	Np.. glad it worked __________________________________________________ #1

October 31st, 2011, 01:20 PM	#53
Mr.E That rider dude. Name: Eric Location: Orlando, Fl. Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 White Ninja 250 SE. Posts: A lot.	Out of curiosity, I need a new screw, so is it fine to ride without barends? The grips are glued in real tight, but I dont want to ride if they had a greater purpose... __________________________________________________ Mods: flushmount Led front binkers, diode mod, pazzo levers, clear tank pad, racing replica grips, bike monkeys integrated tal light, zx-2r vinyls, rearsets, red bar ends, and more red accented stuff.

October 31st, 2011, 01:27 PM	#54
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I rode without for a while. Might be more likely to get a tank slapper... or less. shrug

October 31st, 2011, 01:41 PM	#55
DarC DUCEATR Name: Dan Location: El Paso, Texas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): RVT1000R Posts: 628	Just will have some more vibration, may make your hands numb after awhile if you are especially sensitive to it. I ran woodcrafts without bar ends for thousands of miles without any problems...just a little vibration/buzzing. __________________________________________________ 2001 SP1 RC51- #62 -Akrapovic Ti, PCIII, Colin Edward's first baby tooth, Honda Racing sticker, some Japanese doods best attempt at Engrish scribbled on my engine block, little touch of soul.

September 12th, 2012, 09:08 AM	#56
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	pencil torch = horse bladder __________________________________________________ The King

September 12th, 2012, 09:26 AM	#58
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	humorous randomness saying that those pencil torches are junk before they leave the factory __________________________________________________ The King

September 12th, 2012, 01:38 PM	#60
CThunder-blue ModMy250.com Name: Tri Location: St, Louis Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.	This is the case of "the right tool for the job." I didn't use any torches or heating elements to remove my bar ends. I bought a #3 JIS screw driver and took it off in 10 seconds. I use my #2 and my #3 JIS screw drivers when I work on the bike. Philips will strip out JIS screws pretty fast. http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japane...rivers/=j9i7sr __________________________________________________ The www.ModMy250.com guy

September 12th, 2012, 02:16 PM	#61
DennyV ninjette.org member Name: Dennis Location: Maryland Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 212	ehh or just use quality phillips drivers... like Snap-on =) to get mine out, i put a wet towel over the grips, hit it with a benzo torch, then took my #3 impact driver to it, came right out

September 12th, 2012, 09:04 PM	#62
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I just drilled the head off the screw with a 1/4" bit. Problem solved.

September 12th, 2012, 11:11 PM	#63
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I used a lighter to heat them up and a big ole fatty phillips to take em out __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 13th, 2012, 05:25 AM	#64
Redgeneral ninjette.org guru Name: Nick Location: Ontario Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250r (SOLD) - Black. 2011 ZX-6R Green/Black - 2001 Garbage Bag Green KLR650 Posts: 275	Zombie thread...but oh well. I didn't use heat at all. 24" Breaker bar with #3 Phillips socket. Came out with no problem at all.

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