Ninja 300 vs. CBR500R - the inevitable comparison thread - Page 4

tnr4 · May 16th, 2013, 10:38 AM

This is a seriously impressive showing for the 300!!!

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...0/viewall.html

alex.s · May 16th, 2013, 10:56 AM

nice. i love this

"But you can’t blame the tires for the CBR’s comparative lethargy. No, that falls to the soft suspension, which works perfectly with those low footpegs to kill any buzz you might have accidentally generated. "

cuong-nutz · May 16th, 2013, 11:01 AM

Great article! I will still take the 300 over the 500!

subxero · May 16th, 2013, 11:06 AM

i smell a merge

good read, pretty much verifies my assumptions of the 500. I would take a 300 over it any day of the week.

Jiggles · May 16th, 2013, 11:15 AM

Alex · May 16th, 2013, 11:44 AM

Nice article, @Darling Ninja!

Darling Ninja · May 16th, 2013, 11:44 AM

^^^Thank you!

Toly · May 16th, 2013, 12:35 PM

Folks, may I suggest you beg, borrow or steal a ride the on CBR and then decide for yourselves. You're not doing yourself any favors by paper-picking one over the other.

Jiggles · May 16th, 2013, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toly

Folks, may I suggest you beg, borrow or steal a ride the on CBR and then decide for yourselves. You're not doing yourself any favors by paper-picking one over the other.

Sure thing bro, bring yours over to san jose and I'll be happy to ride it

KawiKid860 · May 16th, 2013, 02:33 PM

That article has kind of turned me off from the CB500 line... Sounds torquey and boring. The bikes serve the same and different purposes though. They both cater to newer riders of course, but they also cater to different types of experienced riders. This is a good thing, if we wanted to compare a bunch of bikes that were 99% the same this thread would be about 600s.

gt_turbo · May 16th, 2013, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KawiKid860

That article has kind of turned me off from the CB500 line... Sounds torquey and boring. The bikes serve the same and different purposes though. They both cater to newer riders of course, but they also cater to different types of experienced riders. This is a good thing, if we wanted to compare a bunch of bikes that were 99% the same this thread would be about 600s.

you can't let articles make the decisions for you. for every article where they say the 300 is better, i'm sure there's another one that says the 500 is better. every writer, magazine, etc has their own bias and opinion. do a demo day, rent one, borrow one, and make your own ultimate decision.

choneofakind · May 16th, 2013, 05:28 PM

^^ WERD!

I'd look at the 300 first over the CBR, but that's because of my experience working on my 250, the great exhausts made by Area P, the level of modification I comfortably know I can do, and all you great peeps on here. I guess the small cheap Kawi is in my comfort zone, so I'd give it the first shot.

Jono · May 17th, 2013, 10:02 AM

We all know the KTM Duke 390 is better than both.

Link to original page on YouTube.

StephenA · May 17th, 2013, 02:27 PM

lgk · May 17th, 2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

We all know the KTM Duke 390 is better than both.

Link to original page on YouTube.

looks like fun

JohnnyBravo · May 18th, 2013, 01:20 PM

I'll keep my 3 honey over any of that other nonsense!!!

aeroblade · May 18th, 2013, 11:18 PM

I'm gonna give my 2fiddy a hug! Its still a champ to me

However back to topic, shouldn't the 500 be compared to the 650 relative to displacement figures. Forgive me as I failed to notice the factors that pulled these two chaps in together for a comparo.. Feel free to fill me in if indeed I've missed out something.

Love the CBR all except for the fact that its got a lower rev limit. I love the high pitched screams that sets in once I cross the high K's. Its addictive...

Absolutely loved the duke up until it became the beginner bike for all these immature a$$•'s over here. My bike's service center is full of crashed duke 200s. I can't imagine what its gonna be like once the bring in the 390.

tfkrocks · May 18th, 2013, 11:54 PM

I kinda want to get a Duke 390 later on to keep along with my 300 simply because it looks sexy

psych0hans · May 19th, 2013, 01:28 AM

I'm simply waiting for their RC series bikes to come out... Then goodbye 300, welcome RC390

Jiggles · May 19th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroblade

I'm gonna give my 2fiddy a hug! Its still a champ to me

However back to topic, shouldn't the 500 be compared to the 650 relative to displacement figures. Forgive me as I failed to notice the factors that pulled these two chaps in together for a comparo.. Feel free to fill me in if indeed I've missed out something.

Love the CBR all except for the fact that its got a lower rev limit. I love the high pitched screams that sets in once I cross the high K's. Its addictive...

Absolutely loved the duke up until it became the beginner bike for all these immature a$$•'s over here. My bike's service center is full of crashed duke 200s. I can't imagine what its gonna be like once the bring in the 390.

The cbr is sort of the middle ground between the 650 and 300. It's closer in weight to the 650 and closer in power to the 300. I'd like the 500 more if it was the opposite, close in weight to the 300 and close in power to the 650 but that wasn't Hondas goal with this bike.

Brother Michigan · May 19th, 2013, 11:56 AM

The comment in that article about the rubber pegs kind of giving away what the CBR is about is just what I've been thinking since I laid eyes on the bike. It's good to know that confirmation bias isn't always wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

I'm simply waiting for their RC series bikes to come out... Then goodbye 300, welcome RC390

We can dream...

aeroblade · May 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The cbr is sort of the middle ground between the 650 and 300. It's closer in weight to the 650 and closer in power to the 300. I'd like the 500 more if it was the opposite, close in weight to the 300 and close in power to the 650 but that wasn't Hondas goal with this bike.

That would have made it quite a bike for a 500. They must have ignored light weight parts so as to focus on its affordability ( which by a market point of view is quite practical). Still very skeptical about the bore/stroke setup. Definitely have to try it out... *cough* and then buy something better

psych0hans · May 19th, 2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

l
We can dream...

The CEO's confirmed it, the RC390 is expected this year...

Surferboy120 · May 19th, 2013, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

The CEO's confirmed it, the RC390 is expected this year...

I am buying one to so it can sit next to my 300 as well.

Brother Michigan · May 19th, 2013, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

The CEO's confirmed it, the RC390 is expected this year...

We unfortunate Americans will probably never see it, though...

aeroblade · May 19th, 2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

I am buying one to so it can sit next to my 300 as well.

You friggin rich people... you disgust me!!!!

psych0hans · May 19th, 2013, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

We unfortunate Americans will probably never see it, though...

I believe both the duke and the rc390 will be sold in the us... Couldn't be sure tho

Surferboy120 · May 20th, 2013, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

I believe both the duke and the rc390 will be sold in the us... Couldn't be sure tho

From what I heard the duke will be here jan 2014 I am working to get on the list for the RC390.

psych0hans · May 20th, 2013, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

From what I heard the duke will be here jan 2014 I am working to get on the list for the RC390.

The duke's due for launch in India any time now... Sometime this month or next month I guess. Can't say anything about the RC tho... I'm sure it'll be a machine to

over...

xdnxp · May 21st, 2013, 02:23 PM

I'm not sure if this is in the right place cause I never really post stuff but here's a comparison of the CBR500R and the ninja 300R from Motor Cyclist.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...aki_ninja_300/

Trailerboy531 · May 21st, 2013, 02:29 PM

Great! We can add it to the other thread about this article

Alex · May 21st, 2013, 02:43 PM

/merged

Apex · May 25th, 2013, 05:44 PM

I think it was in Motorcyclist magazine.

People were still leaning to the 300 over the 500 in all areas except straight line power and cruising on the highway. In every other area people tended to prefer the little 300.

Way to go Kawi.

Alex · May 25th, 2013, 05:51 PM

/merged

gt_turbo · May 31st, 2013, 03:37 PM

kawi fanboy ridingwithtom's video blog - he compares the 500 to the 300. even this hardcore kawi fanboy has good things to say about the 500.

cbr500r review

Link to original page on YouTube.

ninja 300 vs. ninja 250 review

Link to original page on YouTube.

Motofool · June 8th, 2013, 07:25 AM

Honda CBR500R vs. Kawasaki Ninja 300

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...aki_ninja_300/

"“Hey, that’s not a fair fight,” you’re saying. Sure, the Honda’s engine is 37 percent larger. But it also makes 42 percent more peak torque, and, at the top of the CBR’s powerband, beats the Ninja’s horsepower and torque output by 38 and 40 percent. Then again, the 300 is still 1000 rpm shy of its torque peak. Although the posted redline is 8500 rpm, the CBR pulled to 8800 on our SuperFlow dyno. A little bit of over-rev would help the Honda on the street. Numbers and charts don’t describe the Kawasaki’s free-revving nature—a stark contrast to the Honda."

xSean13 · June 8th, 2013, 07:41 AM

ninjamunky85 · June 8th, 2013, 08:58 AM

I looked at the CBR 500 when I bought my 300, and was unimpressed with the Honda. Although it's faster in a straight line, it seemed pretty boring compared to the ninja. I didn't think the Honda looked as good in person as it does in pictures. The seat is ridiculously skinny and, I didn't think it looked or felt like a bigger bike, although the reviews say otherwise.

I made the right choice getting the 300. I just don't think I would have been happy with the 8.5K redline of the Honda, or it's 430 lb wet weight. Plus the 300 just screams sportbike with it's aggressive looks and big analog tach right in the middle of the dash. It's what a sportbike should be like, no matter what size.

Alex · June 8th, 2013, 08:58 AM

/merged

AgentCircus · September 8th, 2013, 02:00 PM

No more comparisons?

May 16th, 2013, 10:38 AM	#121
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	Talk about punching above your weightclass! This is a seriously impressive showing for the 300!!! http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...0/viewall.html

May 16th, 2013, 10:56 AM	#122
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	nice. i love this "But you can’t blame the tires for the CBR’s comparative lethargy. No, that falls to the soft suspension, which works perfectly with those low footpegs to kill any buzz you might have accidentally generated. " __________________________________________________

May 16th, 2013, 11:01 AM	#123
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Great article! I will still take the 300 over the 500! __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

May 16th, 2013, 11:15 AM	#125
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subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	i smell a merge good read, pretty much verifies my assumptions of the 500. I would take a 300 over it any day of the week.

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Toly ninjette.org guru Name: Toly Location: NY Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): KTM 390 Duke Posts: 428	Folks, may I suggest you beg, borrow or steal a ride the on CBR and then decide for yourselves. You're not doing yourself any favors by paper-picking one over the other.

May 16th, 2013, 02:33 PM	#130
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	That article has kind of turned me off from the CB500 line... Sounds torquey and boring. The bikes serve the same and different purposes though. They both cater to newer riders of course, but they also cater to different types of experienced riders. This is a good thing, if we wanted to compare a bunch of bikes that were 99% the same this thread would be about 600s.

May 16th, 2013, 05:28 PM	#132
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ WERD! I'd look at the 300 first over the CBR, but that's because of my experience working on my 250, the great exhausts made by Area P, the level of modification I comfortably know I can do, and all you great peeps on here. I guess the small cheap Kawi is in my comfort zone, so I'd give it the first shot.

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May 18th, 2013, 11:18 PM	#137
aeroblade Doh! Name: Matt Location: Locating GPS... Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 286	I'm gonna give my 2fiddy a hug! Its still a champ to me However back to topic, shouldn't the 500 be compared to the 650 relative to displacement figures. Forgive me as I failed to notice the factors that pulled these two chaps in together for a comparo.. Feel free to fill me in if indeed I've missed out something. Love the CBR all except for the fact that its got a lower rev limit. I love the high pitched screams that sets in once I cross the high K's. Its addictive... Absolutely loved the duke up until it became the beginner bike for all these immature a$$•'s over here. My bike's service center is full of crashed duke 200s. I can't imagine what its gonna be like once the bring in the 390. __________________________________________________

May 18th, 2013, 11:54 PM	#138
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	I kinda want to get a Duke 390 later on to keep along with my 300 simply because it looks sexy

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psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	I'm simply waiting for their RC series bikes to come out... Then goodbye 300, welcome RC390 __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

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xdnxp ninjette.org member Name: Luis Location: Central coast California Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r Posts: 40	CBR 500R Vs Ninja 300R I'm not sure if this is in the right place cause I never really post stuff but here's a comparison of the CBR500R and the ninja 300R from Motor Cyclist. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...aki_ninja_300/

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May 25th, 2013, 05:44 PM	#153
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May 31st, 2013, 03:37 PM	#155
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	kawi fanboy ridingwithtom's video blog - he compares the 500 to the 300. even this hardcore kawi fanboy has good things to say about the 500. cbr500r review Link to original page on YouTube. ninja 300 vs. ninja 250 review Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ Mods: 636 front suspension conversion, wc clip ons, bohemian rear sets, FP jets, k&n filter, and AP full race exhaust

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Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	Honda’s new CBR500R takes a swing at the Ninja 300 Honda CBR500R vs. Kawasaki Ninja 300 http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/co...aki_ninja_300/ "“Hey, that’s not a fair fight,” you’re saying. Sure, the Honda’s engine is 37 percent larger. But it also makes 42 percent more peak torque, and, at the top of the CBR’s powerband, beats the Ninja’s horsepower and torque output by 38 and 40 percent. Then again, the 300 is still 1000 rpm shy of its torque peak. Although the posted redline is 8500 rpm, the CBR pulled to 8800 on our SuperFlow dyno. A little bit of over-rev would help the Honda on the street. Numbers and charts don’t describe the Kawasaki’s free-revving nature—a stark contrast to the Honda." __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

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June 8th, 2013, 08:58 AM	#158
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	I looked at the CBR 500 when I bought my 300, and was unimpressed with the Honda. Although it's faster in a straight line, it seemed pretty boring compared to the ninja. I didn't think the Honda looked as good in person as it does in pictures. The seat is ridiculously skinny and, I didn't think it looked or felt like a bigger bike, although the reviews say otherwise. I made the right choice getting the 300. I just don't think I would have been happy with the 8.5K redline of the Honda, or it's 430 lb wet weight. Plus the 300 just screams sportbike with it's aggressive looks and big analog tach right in the middle of the dash. It's what a sportbike should be like, no matter what size. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

June 8th, 2013, 08:58 AM	#159
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