600 mile service

akcalhoun · July 13th, 2012, 04:21 AM

so i was looking through the 600 mile service manual from the wiki and on the section about bolts, nuts, and fasteners it shows some of them to have a non-permenant locking agent to be put on them. does this mean to apply only if it has to be tightened or loosened, or do you unscrew them and apply it regardless? Im getting close to the 600 mile mark and want to attempt it myself. all help appreciated, thx

Motofool · July 13th, 2012, 05:54 AM

Welcome to the site, aaron!

I would say apply blue thread locker to whatever you find below the specified torque (red is permanent lock).

csmith12 · July 13th, 2012, 07:08 AM

Welcome Aaron!

The 600 mile service is a piece of cake and a great way to get to know your bike a little better. Dive in!

You can use blue locktite on a lot of the bolts but don't use it on the fairing bolts. The most common ones that riders use it are the gear shift lever and front sprocket nut.

Good luck sir and post up if you have any questions along the way.

lgk · July 13th, 2012, 08:04 AM

yep, another good thing to add is, figuring out the bolt sizes of the things that needed retightening.

make a list of them
and go to the hardware store to get some spares to put in your seat.

my bolt kit saved me a couple of times already, with my gear shift lever and front brake cylinder...

akcalhoun · July 14th, 2012, 04:03 AM

thx guys for all the help and the welcomes. i was just a little confused and didnt know if those bolts came from factory with the blue thread locker on them. also how do i check the tightness of those bolts? just with a regular torque wrench? the only part of the 600 mile service that made me scratch my head was the part over the nuts, bolts, and fasteners. from what ive seen on these forums it shouldnt be to difficult to do and will save me bout $200. thx again guys

akcalhoun · July 14th, 2012, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgk

yep, another good thing to add is, figuring out the bolt sizes of the things that needed retightening.

make a list of them
and go to the hardware store to get some spares to put in your seat.

my bolt kit saved me a couple of times already, with my gear shift lever and front brake cylinder...

this is a great idea thanks so much

csmith12 · July 14th, 2012, 09:36 AM

In the end you will need 2 torque wrenches. One foot pounds the other inch pounds. The ninja has both. The cheap Harbor Freight will work but like most things.... you get what you pay for, especially tools.

Motofool · July 14th, 2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akcalhoun

.....also how do i check the tightness of those bolts? just with a regular torque wrench?

You are welcome.

I am not sure if they come with thread lock from the factory.

Yes, a torque wrench will tell you which bolt or nut is working its way out.

Consider that some bolts will turn unless you use a regular wrench on the nut at the other end, such as the engine-frame anchors and wheels axles.

Even cheap torque wrenches are pretty good if you exert the force slowly enough to fine-feel the click.

In my experience, the recommended torque is always lower than the torque that I would apply with a regular wrench (except for the wheels axles and rear suspension mechanism).

Make a conversion table for lb-ft and lb-inch in order to avoid confusion and always double check the wrench adjustment against the recommendation.

Enjoy the DIY service; you will learn much about your ride.

akcalhoun · July 14th, 2012, 07:48 PM

guys thx so much for all the help, i feel much more prepared for the DIY.

July 13th, 2012, 04:21 AM	#1
akcalhoun ninjette.org member Name: aaron Location: east texas Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 honda shadow phantom Posts: 170	600 mile service so i was looking through the 600 mile service manual from the wiki and on the section about bolts, nuts, and fasteners it shows some of them to have a non-permenant locking agent to be put on them. does this mean to apply only if it has to be tightened or loosened, or do you unscrew them and apply it regardless? Im getting close to the 600 mile mark and want to attempt it myself. all help appreciated, thx

July 13th, 2012, 05:54 AM	#2
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July 13th, 2012, 07:08 AM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Welcome Aaron! The 600 mile service is a piece of cake and a great way to get to know your bike a little better. Dive in! You can use blue locktite on a lot of the bolts but don't use it on the fairing bolts. The most common ones that riders use it are the gear shift lever and front sprocket nut. Good luck sir and post up if you have any questions along the way. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School Last futzed with by csmith12; July 13th, 2012 at 08:23 AM.

July 14th, 2012, 09:36 AM	#7
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	In the end you will need 2 torque wrenches. One foot pounds the other inch pounds. The ninja has both. The cheap Harbor Freight will work but like most things.... you get what you pay for, especially tools. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

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akcalhoun ninjette.org member Name: aaron Location: east texas Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 honda shadow phantom Posts: 170	thx guys for all the help and the welcomes. i was just a little confused and didnt know if those bolts came from factory with the blue thread locker on them. also how do i check the tightness of those bolts? just with a regular torque wrench? the only part of the 600 mile service that made me scratch my head was the part over the nuts, bolts, and fasteners. from what ive seen on these forums it shouldnt be to difficult to do and will save me bout $200. thx again guys

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akcalhoun ninjette.org member Name: aaron Location: east texas Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 honda shadow phantom Posts: 170	guys thx so much for all the help, i feel much more prepared for the DIY.