Should I buy this Exhaust?

00v_Lucky · February 13th, 2009, 10:49 PM

http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=129399

This person offered to sell it for $160
His story: Bought this bike used and I guess it came with this exhaust as a deal, therefore he and I have never heard how it sounded on the bike (maybe because it doesnt work for some reason?)
I do not think this person is going to let me just slip it on his bike when I drive up there in a car

Help me figure out what to do!

It is a replica of an Area P, I think it is a used one from this vendor

http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=128346

(obviously if i had the money id snatch up an area p in a second)

Or, buy a slip on two-bros exhaust from ebay for around $300

Or, hold my breath for this raffle to come through for me.

From the first link, what could be my downsides? will it be possible to do damage to my bike? (I am going to go check it out this Sunday)

Any input would help me out mucho, thx.

CRXTrek · February 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM

You have a brand new bike ...i'd say save for a new Area P.

But if you want that old one offer him less $$$ there won't be alot of buyers for it . so i bet he will take less.

aloh · February 13th, 2009, 11:27 PM

you better buy it before i do... (even though i entered in that raffle already!!!) That price is reaaaally good.

EDIT: I just read that it is a replica. REPLICA FTL!!! Do not want...

noche_caliente · February 14th, 2009, 10:52 AM

Kerry, the owner of Area P is on this site - stay away from the knock-offs - that's bad mojo!

kkim · February 14th, 2009, 11:03 AM

have there ever been dyno charts posted for this no name exhaust? I've not seen any. If not, what are you buying besides some unknown noisemaker that's been beat to crap, from the photos.

Will it harm your bike??? most likely not, but you'll never be sure w/o a company to ask questions of when it comes time to jet... and you will need to rejet after putting an exhaust on. Otherwise what's the use of freeing up the exhaust gasses if you're not setting up the bike to flow more? If you don't have a plan of attack to mod your bike, keep it stock until you learn enough to formulate one based on experience you gain from reading what works and what doesn't from forums such as this.

For a full exhaust, I would recommend either Area P or Yoshimura. Save your money... buy something of value the first time around. There are no free lunches.

00v_Lucky · February 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM

so if i just buy a slip-on two brothers it will be fine and I wouldn't have to rejett would I? I for sure am going to screw something up while taking off the gas tank and messin with the needle. I planned to just get that knock off (Sorry kerry) and take off the snorkel.

kkim · February 14th, 2009, 11:47 AM

Howard,

The bike already runs lean from the factory. Adding a slip on or removing the snorkel will make it run even more lean and most likely you'll have "drivability" issues with the bike being more tempermental off from a complete stop. Richening up the mixture will help to alleviate this.

I even recommend shimming the needles on a stock bike as some run so lean from the factory, it's very difficult to ride easily.

So, that is why I recommend leaving the bike stock until you have a mod plan in mind. Once you get all the parts installed, then shim or rejet the bike.

00v_Lucky · February 14th, 2009, 11:56 AM

yea, all I really want right now is for people to hear me when i'm behind them, or next to them.

I think what I will do is buy this POS exhaust and later buy an area p slip on. Looks to me from the pictures that the headers are QUITE similar (but probably not as good material as the legit kind)

kkim · February 14th, 2009, 12:07 PM

Again, my beliefs are that loud pipes do not save lives. It's usually an argument people use to have obnoxiously loud bikes on the street. You will do more harm than good for the image/reputation of sport bike riders by having a vehicle so loud.

A much better way to gain attention is by wearing bright clothing and being sure you're not in another vehicles blind spot. Be aware where you position yourself while in traffic.

Others might not agree, but buying that exhaust to gain attention is not the answer.

Viper-Byte · February 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM

I like to do things once and do them right first time, this usually saves both time and money.

In your case, I would suggest waiting till you have them money for a full AreaP system and getting that, you will save money by not getting 2 exhausts. You will NEED to shim/rejet the bike for the exhaust to be ridable(due to the lean nature of the factory settings)

I personally do not like really loud vehicles, when I first got my AP CF long quiet core I was doubting it as it is a lot louder than stock. But it has grown on me and I know I made the right choice. I got mine to make the power nicer and more powerful and also to give it a better sound to me. Not to gain attention, Kelly is right, high visibility gear and ensuring you are in the correct position to be seen will do more for your attention than a loud exhaust

HKr1 · February 14th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Iam all for saving a buck

dancrosoft · February 19th, 2009, 08:35 AM

I have an Area P quite core and it rocks.

rallyegolf · February 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM

I had the opportunity to get a custom made pipe from Area P, and meet the guys who built it when I picked it up. Great company! I have nothing but good things to say about them. Life long customer here. Plus you want to keep the $$$ in the USA these days. Im trying harder and harder to buy USA made products, and support USA business.

Im done.

CRXTrek · February 19th, 2009, 10:35 AM

cept ... mine got shipped

dancrosoft · February 19th, 2009, 10:39 AM

I agree... I talked with the guy who owns the place for about 30 minutes. He told me all kinds of stuff about what I can do and what I should not do. They will also help you if you get stuck during install. Great company.

istreefitty · July 29th, 2009, 11:58 PM

i am in the group buy for the sportisi exhaustnext month and I have already bought my jet kit (waiting on the exhaust to get here). To be totally honest I am quite scared and intimidated about rejetting. I really want to rejet but "feeling the difference" doesnt sound like an exact science nor would I consider my stint in auto mechanic shop in highschool a background experience making me confident in doing this. My question is how many people out there have rejetted and are in the same category as me?? any confidence boost would be nice right about now.

Should I just pay a shop to dyno and rejett??? thanks

ShelbyOne · July 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM

Don't buy that thing! It's generic and already busted up. Do your bike a favor and just save a little more, get a new one that you know will fit well and sound decent.

g21-30 · July 30th, 2009, 04:27 AM

Look at the dates in this thread. February was a while back. For those of you with jetting questions, ask them in the shimming or jetting threads. YMMV

ajaygraci · July 30th, 2009, 04:25 PM

i got the replica and i love it.

ztrack157 · July 31st, 2009, 06:48 PM

Howard bought a V6R from me. Jetting is not complicated. Do not pay a shop to do it.

ROADandTRACK · August 1st, 2009, 11:04 AM

I'd get the M4, its the best pipe out there for the new gen. IMHO.

February 13th, 2009, 10:49 PM	#1
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	Should I buy this Exhaust? http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=129399 This person offered to sell it for $160 His story: Bought this bike used and I guess it came with this exhaust as a deal, therefore he and I have never heard how it sounded on the bike (maybe because it doesnt work for some reason?) I do not think this person is going to let me just slip it on his bike when I drive up there in a car Help me figure out what to do! It is a replica of an Area P, I think it is a used one from this vendor http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=128346 (obviously if i had the money id snatch up an area p in a second) Or, buy a slip on two-bros exhaust from ebay for around $300 Or, hold my breath for this raffle to come through for me. From the first link, what could be my downsides? will it be possible to do damage to my bike? (I am going to go check it out this Sunday) Any input would help me out mucho, thx.

February 13th, 2009, 11:27 PM	#3
aloh lolwut Name: Alex Location: socal Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 196	you better buy it before i do... (even though i entered in that raffle already!!!) That price is reaaaally good. EDIT: I just read that it is a replica. REPLICA FTL!!! Do not want... __________________________________________________ 08 Blue Ninja 250R

July 29th, 2009, 11:58 PM	#16
istreefitty sir posts a lot Name: michael Location: HI Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: 267	i am in the group buy for the sportisi exhaustnext month and I have already bought my jet kit (waiting on the exhaust to get here). To be totally honest I am quite scared and intimidated about rejetting. I really want to rejet but "feeling the difference" doesnt sound like an exact science nor would I consider my stint in auto mechanic shop in highschool a background experience making me confident in doing this. My question is how many people out there have rejetted and are in the same category as me?? any confidence boost would be nice right about now. Should I just pay a shop to dyno and rejett??? thanks __________________________________________________ A girl walks into a bar and orders a "double entendre" So the bartender gave it to her "once you go black, you never go back."

July 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM	#17
ShelbyOne ninjette.org member Name: Dave Location: Alaska Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 41	Don't buy that thing! It's generic and already busted up. Do your bike a favor and just save a little more, get a new one that you know will fit well and sound decent. __________________________________________________ Black 08 250r: Koso dash, yoshi cf slip-on, bikemonkey led, puig windscreen, cc rearset adjusters and shorty levers, shimmed, de-snorkel'd, de-kleen'd , 14/39 gearing, x-ring chain...

July 31st, 2009, 06:48 PM	#20
ztrack157 The Sportisi Master Name: Matt Location: Chico Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Howard bought a V6R from me. Jetting is not complicated. Do not pay a shop to do it. __________________________________________________ Sportisimoto USA is born.

February 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM	#2
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	You have a brand new bike ...i'd say save for a new Area P. But if you want that old one offer him less $$$ there won't be alot of buyers for it . so i bet he will take less.

February 14th, 2009, 10:52 AM	#4
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	Kerry, the owner of Area P is on this site - stay away from the knock-offs - that's bad mojo!

February 14th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#5
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	have there ever been dyno charts posted for this no name exhaust? I've not seen any. If not, what are you buying besides some unknown noisemaker that's been beat to crap, from the photos. Will it harm your bike??? most likely not, but you'll never be sure w/o a company to ask questions of when it comes time to jet... and you will need to rejet after putting an exhaust on. Otherwise what's the use of freeing up the exhaust gasses if you're not setting up the bike to flow more? If you don't have a plan of attack to mod your bike, keep it stock until you learn enough to formulate one based on experience you gain from reading what works and what doesn't from forums such as this. For a full exhaust, I would recommend either Area P or Yoshimura. Save your money... buy something of value the first time around. There are no free lunches.

February 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM	#6
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	so if i just buy a slip-on two brothers it will be fine and I wouldn't have to rejett would I? I for sure am going to screw something up while taking off the gas tank and messin with the needle. I planned to just get that knock off (Sorry kerry) and take off the snorkel.

February 14th, 2009, 11:47 AM	#7
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Howard, The bike already runs lean from the factory. Adding a slip on or removing the snorkel will make it run even more lean and most likely you'll have "drivability" issues with the bike being more tempermental off from a complete stop. Richening up the mixture will help to alleviate this. I even recommend shimming the needles on a stock bike as some run so lean from the factory, it's very difficult to ride easily. So, that is why I recommend leaving the bike stock until you have a mod plan in mind. Once you get all the parts installed, then shim or rejet the bike.

February 14th, 2009, 11:56 AM	#8
00v_Lucky ninjette.org sage Name: Howard Location: Cypress, So. Cal. Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Candy Thunder Blue Ninja 250R Posts: 618	yea, all I really want right now is for people to hear me when i'm behind them, or next to them. I think what I will do is buy this POS exhaust and later buy an area p slip on. Looks to me from the pictures that the headers are QUITE similar (but probably not as good material as the legit kind)

February 14th, 2009, 12:07 PM	#9
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Again, my beliefs are that loud pipes do not save lives. It's usually an argument people use to have obnoxiously loud bikes on the street. You will do more harm than good for the image/reputation of sport bike riders by having a vehicle so loud. A much better way to gain attention is by wearing bright clothing and being sure you're not in another vehicles blind spot. Be aware where you position yourself while in traffic. Others might not agree, but buying that exhaust to gain attention is not the answer.

February 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM	#10
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	I like to do things once and do them right first time, this usually saves both time and money. In your case, I would suggest waiting till you have them money for a full AreaP system and getting that, you will save money by not getting 2 exhausts. You will NEED to shim/rejet the bike for the exhaust to be ridable(due to the lean nature of the factory settings) I personally do not like really loud vehicles, when I first got my AP CF long quiet core I was doubting it as it is a lot louder than stock. But it has grown on me and I know I made the right choice. I got mine to make the power nicer and more powerful and also to give it a better sound to me. Not to gain attention, Kelly is right, high visibility gear and ensuring you are in the correct position to be seen will do more for your attention than a loud exhaust

February 14th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#11
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Iam all for saving a buck

February 19th, 2009, 08:35 AM	#12
dancrosoft Dan Name: Dan Location: NC Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Black Posts: 46	I have an Area P quite core and it rocks.

February 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM	#13
rallyegolf project29design Name: Parker Location: So Cal Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08' 250R Posts: 25	I had the opportunity to get a custom made pipe from Area P, and meet the guys who built it when I picked it up. Great company! I have nothing but good things to say about them. Life long customer here. Plus you want to keep the $$$ in the USA these days. Im trying harder and harder to buy USA made products, and support USA business. Im done.

February 19th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#14
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	cept ... mine got shipped

February 19th, 2009, 10:39 AM	#15
dancrosoft Dan Name: Dan Location: NC Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Black Posts: 46	I agree... I talked with the guy who owns the place for about 30 minutes. He told me all kinds of stuff about what I can do and what I should not do. They will also help you if you get stuck during install. Great company.

July 30th, 2009, 04:27 AM	#18
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Look at the dates in this thread. February was a while back. For those of you with jetting questions, ask them in the shimming or jetting threads. YMMV

July 30th, 2009, 04:25 PM	#19
ajaygraci ninjette.org member Name: Angelo Location: North New Jersey Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r, black, carbon fiber full exhaust...2000 toyota 4runner Posts: 136	i got the replica and i love it.

August 1st, 2009, 11:04 AM	#21
ROADandTRACK R&T Suspension Name: K Hertell Location: San Antonio, TEXAS Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Too many to list Posts: 175	I'd get the M4, its the best pipe out there for the new gen. IMHO.

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