Need quick advise, help, SOS

Cab305 · April 3rd, 2010, 11:09 AM

I'm possibly buying a used 08 250r, with salvaged title(fixed crashed bike. At least 70% cost of new to fix, its a cheap bike so plastics alone are almost 40%. But i'm guessing at damage that was fixed, will ask, don't expect a straight answer.)

I need to do this in the next hour if at all. What must I absolutely look for, the bike is being sold by a fix and sell outfit, they will guarantee mechanically.

The bike has 445 miles, asking $3500. I think it will go for $2,800-$3,000.(+ $200 for new title) Brand new at dealer its $4800 cash out the door.

Should I go used or new. New is blue, used is black.
I still have to get a helmet, gloves, jacket etc. So every penny counts.

Please help, need to do this quick.

RhinoJC · April 3rd, 2010, 11:30 AM

The MSRP for the '08 250 was $3500, asking that for a used salvage means the guy is trying to screw someone. Assuming their is no visible major damage, $1500.

Personally, I would call him on his crap, go over every inch of the bike, then offer him $1000 max.

ScraitT · April 3rd, 2010, 11:34 AM

I would look for a used bike, but NOT a used salvaged bike. Plenty of people have picked up mint condition 2008s for under 3500. Keep looking.

Cab305 · April 3rd, 2010, 11:35 AM

Awesome! didn't think of original price, Dohhh.

Very good point Scrait. This would be my first bike, I will probably be dropping ti myself in the next 6 months.

JokerSeven · April 3rd, 2010, 11:37 AM

Keep looking, you can find better. $3000 for an 08 salvage bike is a joke.

thats my

Cab305 · April 3rd, 2010, 03:52 PM

New and Blue, delivery room picture. They let me cut the chord and spank her!

kkim · April 3rd, 2010, 04:03 PM

details?

BlueRaven · April 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM

I hope you have some money left over for gear.

Cab305 · April 3rd, 2010, 04:27 PM

$4700.00 cash out the door, Gables Motorsports. Will be ready on Tuesday.

Was hopping to finance, but the Banks thought otherwise. Which in the long run saved me some finance and loan charges, but it was a large chunk of green to hand someone across a desk.(specially these days) Still very affordable in a showroom filled with 10 grand and up machines. I could see 4 grand easily being the downpayment for a CBR1000rr.

Tony (sales) and Mike (manager) were excellent and very straight forward. Very good experience, I would recommend and will definitely go back for my next bike.

They even threw in a Shoei RF1100 for $340. Nice!

BlueRaven · April 3rd, 2010, 05:08 PM

Congrats on your new toy

CodE-E · April 4th, 2010, 10:51 AM

Kawasaki.com lists the US MSRP for the 2010 250R at $4299. Shouldn't the cash out the door price be even lower than that? o_O

Alex · April 4th, 2010, 10:59 AM

MSRP doesn't include tax, and doesn't include a few other fees that usually apply (registration, doc fees, setup, freight, etc.). For most bikes, it's considered a good deal if the price is discounted such that the total out the door price comes out to around MSRP (so the price is below MSRP, but the other taxes/fees bring it back up to right around the MSRP level). For top-selling bikes though, sometimes it's hard to get the price down to even that point.

Chubbs032 · April 4th, 2010, 11:33 AM

good deal for a new bike esp in Florida, congrats

CodE-E · April 4th, 2010, 12:04 PM

Okay, thanks Alex. Here in Europe, the prices tend to be listed with tax and all the other silly fees, so one typically pays less than the listed price. 10% under listing price would be a good deal here. I paid €4490 instead of the listed price of €4890 last year.

ScraitT · April 4th, 2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodE-E

Kawasaki.com lists the US MSRP for the 2010 250R at $4299. Shouldn't the cash out the door price be even lower than that? o_O

7% sales tax adds another 300, so that alone puts the bike up to 4600. Another 100 to cover doc and reg fees....he got a pretty good deal on the bike.

Congrats. I called the place you got your from and they quoted me insanely high (almost 5,000 if I remember right, back in 08 when the msrp was only 3500). Glad to see they have come to their senses or have new management.

RedNinja09 · April 4th, 2010, 01:26 PM

Yeah, I would agree, the salvaged bike is a NO GO. Invest your money in a new bike or a used bike with a clean title. I had a bad experience buying a used Ninja off of Craigslist. It just isnt worth all the hassle dealing with a broken, screwed up bike. Peace of mind is worth more than the cheapie price tag....

Cab305 · April 4th, 2010, 01:48 PM

They were nice enough to swallow some of the costs, assembly, shipping, etc.
Registration was $200. 7% Sales tax. Plus they nocked of almost 25% off a new $420 lid. The initial deal with some frame savers, and green limited edition color(decals I would have taken off anyways, wasted $) for financing came to about $6800.00

I think my friend cash helped us see eye to eye. The bank only had $20's so my friend looked very intimidating sitting on the desk. All and all, I feel it was a good purchase.

KTRacing38 · April 4th, 2010, 02:03 PM

Congrats on your new ride.

JokerSeven · April 4th, 2010, 06:23 PM

They run about $4700 out the door here too. Full MSRP + fees, zero wiggle room.

April 3rd, 2010, 11:09 AM	#1
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	Need quick advise, help, SOS I'm possibly buying a used 08 250r, with salvaged title(fixed crashed bike. At least 70% cost of new to fix, its a cheap bike so plastics alone are almost 40%. But i'm guessing at damage that was fixed, will ask, don't expect a straight answer.) I need to do this in the next hour if at all. What must I absolutely look for, the bike is being sold by a fix and sell outfit, they will guarantee mechanically. The bike has 445 miles, asking $3500. I think it will go for $2,800-$3,000.(+ $200 for new title) Brand new at dealer its $4800 cash out the door. Should I go used or new. New is blue, used is black. I still have to get a helmet, gloves, jacket etc. So every penny counts. Please help, need to do this quick.

April 3rd, 2010, 11:34 AM	#3
ScraitT Green! Name: Tyler Location: S. Florida Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R, 04 Honda CRF230F, 94 Honda XR80R Posts: 505	I would look for a used bike, but NOT a used salvaged bike. Plenty of people have picked up mint condition 2008s for under 3500. Keep looking. __________________________________________________ 2008 Green 250R

April 3rd, 2010, 03:52 PM	#6
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	Done Deal New and Blue, delivery room picture. They let me cut the chord and spank her!

April 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM	#8
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	I hope you have some money left over for gear. __________________________________________________ I'm not small, I'm fun sized

April 3rd, 2010, 04:27 PM	#9
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	details $4700.00 cash out the door, Gables Motorsports. Will be ready on Tuesday. Was hopping to finance, but the Banks thought otherwise. Which in the long run saved me some finance and loan charges, but it was a large chunk of green to hand someone across a desk.(specially these days) Still very affordable in a showroom filled with 10 grand and up machines. I could see 4 grand easily being the downpayment for a CBR1000rr. Tony (sales) and Mike (manager) were excellent and very straight forward. Very good experience, I would recommend and will definitely go back for my next bike. They even threw in a Shoei RF1100 for $340. Nice!

April 3rd, 2010, 11:30 AM	#2
RhinoJC ninjette.org member Name: Jeremy Location: Hawaii Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 108	The MSRP for the '08 250 was $3500, asking that for a used salvage means the guy is trying to screw someone. Assuming their is no visible major damage, $1500. Personally, I would call him on his crap, go over every inch of the bike, then offer him $1000 max.

April 3rd, 2010, 11:35 AM	#4
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	Awesome! didn't think of original price, Dohhh. Very good point Scrait. This would be my first bike, I will probably be dropping ti myself in the next 6 months.

April 3rd, 2010, 11:37 AM	#5
JokerSeven Ride it like you stole it Name: Jeremy Location: Bama Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R, '04 R6(sold) Posts: 362	Keep looking, you can find better. $3000 for an 08 salvage bike is a joke. thats my

April 3rd, 2010, 04:03 PM	#7
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	details?

April 3rd, 2010, 05:08 PM	#10
BlueRaven ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Lil One Location: NB Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250 Black Posts: A lot.	Congrats on your new toy __________________________________________________ I'm not small, I'm fun sized

April 4th, 2010, 10:51 AM	#11
CodE-E Ninja Newbie Name: Ben Location: Austria Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): EX250K9 Posts: 126	Kawasaki.com lists the US MSRP for the 2010 250R at $4299. Shouldn't the cash out the door price be even lower than that? o_O

April 4th, 2010, 10:59 AM	#12
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	MSRP doesn't include tax, and doesn't include a few other fees that usually apply (registration, doc fees, setup, freight, etc.). For most bikes, it's considered a good deal if the price is discounted such that the total out the door price comes out to around MSRP (so the price is below MSRP, but the other taxes/fees bring it back up to right around the MSRP level). For top-selling bikes though, sometimes it's hard to get the price down to even that point. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

April 4th, 2010, 11:33 AM	#13
Chubbs032 ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: LA Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 199	good deal for a new bike esp in Florida, congrats

April 4th, 2010, 12:04 PM	#14
CodE-E Ninja Newbie Name: Ben Location: Austria Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): EX250K9 Posts: 126	Okay, thanks Alex. Here in Europe, the prices tend to be listed with tax and all the other silly fees, so one typically pays less than the listed price. 10% under listing price would be a good deal here. I paid €4490 instead of the listed price of €4890 last year.

April 4th, 2010, 01:26 PM	#16
RedNinja09 RedNinja09 Name: Chris Location: Carol Stream IL Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 67	Yeah, I would agree, the salvaged bike is a NO GO. Invest your money in a new bike or a used bike with a clean title. I had a bad experience buying a used Ninja off of Craigslist. It just isnt worth all the hassle dealing with a broken, screwed up bike. Peace of mind is worth more than the cheapie price tag.... __________________________________________________ Chris

April 4th, 2010, 01:48 PM	#17
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	They were nice enough to swallow some of the costs, assembly, shipping, etc. Registration was $200. 7% Sales tax. Plus they nocked of almost 25% off a new $420 lid. The initial deal with some frame savers, and green limited edition color(decals I would have taken off anyways, wasted $) for financing came to about $6800.00 I think my friend cash helped us see eye to eye. The bank only had $20's so my friend looked very intimidating sitting on the desk. All and all, I feel it was a good purchase.

April 4th, 2010, 02:03 PM	#18
KTRacing38 2010 250 Cup Champion Name: Kristy Location: Port Perry, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R and 2007 Honda CR150F Posts: 168	Congrats on your new ride.

April 4th, 2010, 06:23 PM	#19
JokerSeven Ride it like you stole it Name: Jeremy Location: Bama Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R, '04 R6(sold) Posts: 362	They run about $4700 out the door here too. Full MSRP + fees, zero wiggle room.

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