August 8th, 2014, 02:46 PM | #1 |
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Tell me about rearsets.
So I'm seeing the Woodcrafts on fleabay for a bit over $200, but I go look on RevZilla, and they're over $300.
Is there something missing from the sets on ebay? Will the footpegs move back 2 inches and up 1 inch, and still with the stock brake lever/shifter, or is that what the price difference is? I really want to get this figured out before I order anything. Thanks. |
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August 8th, 2014, 03:07 PM | #2 |
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Links to what you're looking at for comparison?
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August 9th, 2014, 09:30 AM | #3 |
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What are the best rearsets?
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August 9th, 2014, 09:35 AM | #4 |
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The best rearsets are not related to brand, but instead the product allows you to find the sweet spot on the bike. For example; the woodcraft rearsets I have offer NO adjustability, while they are a fine product, it may not fit other riders needs. Adjustable rearsets cost a bit more yes, but may offer you the adjustability you need to feel confident on the bike. That alone is worth the extra big face.
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August 9th, 2014, 11:28 AM | #5 |
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Thanks.
I would be looking for adjustable ones with folding pegs to avoid frame damage as much as possible. From there, which ones do this and last. |
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August 9th, 2014, 06:06 PM | #6 |
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ebay rearset (and similar price at some other outlets like Motorcycle Superstore).
Woodcraft rearset on Revzilla Vortex rearset for comparison Revzilla might offer them without the levers, but the website doesn't show them that way, so I'd probably have to call. But I want to be sure that I can use the stock levers for now if that's possible. If I have to get the levers with it, I'll probably wait until next month, since my race budget is pretty tight. |
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August 9th, 2014, 10:20 PM | #7 |
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I've always liked the sato stuff from dan kyle.
I have sato on all my street and track toys since my 04 636. The reasons they are good: #1 strong quality aluminum - I've had crashes where the foot peg acted like a slider and all I had to do was replace a lever, clip on bar and a sato foot peg and I was ready to get back to riding #2 knurled foot pegs, and you don't have to worry about positioning them wrong, they are completely round! #3 ball bearings and high quality components - the action is super smooth. I remember my friend getting a knock off sato, it looked close, until it failed! #4 adjustable - every part is adjustable from foot peg position, brake lever engagement, shifter engagement and reverse shift (if that's your thing) http://www.satoracing.com/rearsets_ninja300.htm would also like to throw out there, but I don't believe they supply for the ninja 300: gilles driven racing CRG |
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August 11th, 2014, 09:30 AM | #8 | |
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Also, I've sat on a 250 with the Woodcrafts, and they fit me fine, so I don't think I'll need one of the others with lots of adjustability. I just want to increase my corner clearance, as I'm turning the stock pegs into metal shanks.... |
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August 11th, 2014, 09:50 AM | #9 |
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Those ebay woodcraft seem to come with all that is needed by the kit description in the auction. I dunno though... it's ebay ya know.
Yep by far, woodcraft will get you farther in the paddock vs. any other brand. Good thinkin' right there. Note on the woodcraft rearsets, you will need a shorter rear brake hose or it will kink up real bad.
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August 11th, 2014, 01:03 PM | #10 | |
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August 11th, 2014, 03:08 PM | #11 |
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Question on the adjustability of the wood craft units. This lack of adjustment. Are you talking peg positioning or levers? Are you using the complete set with the supplied levers or are you using the stock levers on the basic wc rearset?
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August 11th, 2014, 09:46 PM | #12 | |
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Once I get decent corner clearance, I'll get some springs in front and a better shock (but I need to check the rulebook for all the classes I run to make sure of what's allowed). The description said they work using the stock levers, so I'm going to go with those for now. I'll upgrade them later if I need to. I've only got two more race weekends this year, so I'm hoping to get some more upgrades (and a few track days) done in the offseason. Thanks for the help again! |
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August 12th, 2014, 04:06 AM | #13 |
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Yes sir, you can use the stock bits. The kit should come with a longer shifter linkage.
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August 12th, 2014, 04:14 AM | #14 |
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Yep Chris, that is how my 250 is set up. wc with stock levers. Once installed, they don't offer any adjustability of the pegs. Sure, you can adjust your brake and shift lever as normal.
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One thing about the Vortex rearsets to keep in mind is the damn pegs. While they grip really well, they tear the ever-loving-mess out of the bottom of your boots. Mitch has WC pegs on the ninjette but vortex on the 636 and literally he has to replace the the wear insert on the bottom of his Vortices after like a quarter of the season.
(and got help you if you snag your leg on them - gashers!!!!!!!!)
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I have a different rearset question, but also applicable to Ninjettes assuming that the adjuster plates which move the stock pegs up and back are being considered.
The foot position on my GSXR is just fine, at least for anything I'm likely to do even on the track. The pegs are nice and grippy, too. So given that, why drop three Benjamins on rearsets? Is it because they'll act as sliders in a crash? Is it because the pegs are easier to replace after a crash? Similar question for clip-ons, though this of course doesn't apply to the Ninjette. The stock ones on my GSXR are just fine. So why spend money on aftermarket? The only reason I can think of is crash damage.
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August 13th, 2014, 04:42 AM | #17 |
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Adjustability, replacement parts.
Rearset adjusters are decent for doing the job cheaply, but they really aren't great for getting the levers lined up perfectly for easy shifting. Always a compromise on space and angle Aftermarket rearsets also have replaceable pegs and levers that are intended to break off in a slide instead of damaging the rearset. Replacing a $10 lever and $10 peg is a lot cheaper than replacing $70 rearset adjuster and potentially OE priced rearset. |
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