Having some issues

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 12:36 PM

Hey everyone, just picked up a 2011 250r this morning, has some issues. What is this and where does it run?

And on the right side is this connector. What is it for?

Thanks for any help, not new to bikes, but this is my first foreign bike

pantera · January 9th, 2016, 12:39 PM

Looks like it may be the rear brake switch.

csmith12 · January 9th, 2016, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera

Looks like it may be the rear brake switch.

I believe your right

SLOWn60 · January 9th, 2016, 12:54 PM

First picture is the rear brake switch. Post a picture of your right footpeg. Specifically; we want to see if your footpeg is stock or if a "rearset" has been installed without the necessary design to hook up the switch. If it's not possible to connect then you must be sure to use your front brake so you will light up your brake light!

Second picture is the connector for your right front turn signal.

And welcome to the forum and performance motorcycling!

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 01:00 PM

Here's the right side peg. And also, any clue off the top in the size of the 2 screws missing by the sight glass?

SLOWn60 · January 9th, 2016, 01:11 PM

http://www.ronniesmailorder.com/oemp...engine-cover-s

Flanged bolt 6x25
Part # 132A
132BB0625

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 01:27 PM

Thanks. Also, just checked the oil in it.. pretty sure it shouldn't look like this lol. Head gasket time?

csmith12 · January 9th, 2016, 01:38 PM

Drain it and have a look at what comes out, but that doesn't look good.

SLOWn60 · January 9th, 2016, 01:42 PM

Looks like you're taking on a hella project for your first sportbike!
Lots of info and help here though. If your at all capable of swinging a home mechanic wrench; it's a great bike to cut your teeth on.
I do question the coolant tank: are you sure it's a 2011 bike? That is not a stock tank style judging by the tank bolt.
And it looks like it's had a pretty hard life. Perhaps you have a Frankeinbike made up of whatever can be haywired on!
Post a couple other pictures of the whole bike, shock, dash etc. It will help us when trying to figure out replies for you.

Sorry; just reread and see it's not your first time wrenching.

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 01:47 PM

No worries. It is my first sport bike, but I did rebuild my shovelhead harley fxr Last winter.
It's kind of Janky for sure, previous owner painted everything and did an extremely crappy job of it. Unsure of year for sure, any vin decoder available?
I'll grab some more pics of the dash etc

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 01:52 PM

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 02:17 PM

Okay, here's the major issue.
Smells like gas so I'll clean the carbs and see what I can come up with.

csmith12 · January 9th, 2016, 02:48 PM

Cool! Gas in oil is an easier fix than coolant in oil.

Ziggyzac · January 9th, 2016, 02:51 PM

VERY true lol. The petcock may have been left on previously, don't know how long it's been sitting. Still going to check the carbs. Also going to grab a manual for it, any suggestions? Clymer was garbage for my harley, is it any better for the ninja?

csmith12 · January 9th, 2016, 02:56 PM

Your google fu will serve you well here. The ninja 250r service manual is easily found online in pdf form.

rojoracing53 · January 9th, 2016, 05:35 PM

Yup I keep a copy on my phone in PDF form for easy access.

Motofool · January 9th, 2016, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggyzac

Thanks. Also, just checked the oil in it.. pretty sure it shouldn't look like this lol. Head gasket time?

Sorry to tell you: that is coolant in oil, gasoline contamination does not produce that color.

It could be leak from the pump, from head gasket or condensation due to long storage.

Check the coolant for signs of oil and don't start the engine with that mix; rather flush it with oil a couple of times before a definitive oil/filter change.

Floki · January 9th, 2016, 11:06 PM

Year in the VIN is noted by the 10th digit, here is a chart that decodes.

NevadaWolf · January 10th, 2016, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggyzac

Here's the right side peg. And also, any clue off the top in the size of the 2 screws missing by the sight glass?

Here's a comparison shot of my 2012. Please ignore the muck, haven't bothered cleaning in awhile.

verboten1 · January 10th, 2016, 01:43 AM

It's definitely water, hopefully some jack hole left the cap off, and it's not anything that needs a tear down!

jkv45 · January 10th, 2016, 08:20 AM

2011? Sheesh - what the heck did the PO do to that thing?

The initial signs are not good, but hopefully you'll find something simple causing the coolant in the oil.

Best of luck bringing it back to life.

This section may be helpful - http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Ninja250_Howto

SLOWn60 · January 10th, 2016, 09:35 AM

This is what ethanol gas and not changing your oil in the fall will do to your engine!!!

jkv45 · January 10th, 2016, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

This is what ethanol gas and not changing your oil in the fall will do to your engine!!!

Ha! Got it...

SLOWn60 · January 10th, 2016, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

Ha! Got it...

All meant in good humour of course!

jkv45 · January 10th, 2016, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

All meant in good humour of course!

No problem - got that too!

verboten1 · January 10th, 2016, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLOWn60

This is what ethanol gas and not changing your oil in the fall will do to your engine!!!

And riding in the rain. I remember that one time my bike got wet, it looks just like this!

daverdfw · January 10th, 2016, 08:19 PM

holy crap who would paint the exhaust? If you want a stock one let me know, I don't need mine.

Ziggyzac · January 11th, 2016, 06:02 AM

Okay, so Ive drained the oil. Airbox and filter have been gone for a while, po rode it like that for a bit, I've got a new one coming. Got a bunch of parts coming to put it back right. Will update when parts come in

Ziggyzac · January 11th, 2016, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

Sorry to tell you: that is coolant in oil, gasoline contamination does not produce that color.

It could be leak from the pump, from head gasket or condensation due to long storage.

Check the coolant for signs of oil and don't start the engine with that mix; rather flush it with oil a couple of times before a definitive oil/filter change.

Coolant has no oil contamination.
Bike has been sitting outside with no airbox or filter, po rode it a few miles like that as well. Got a lot of new parts coming in this week, going to try to chase the issue when I get a new battery and oil filters

Motofool · January 11th, 2016, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggyzac

Coolant has no oil contamination.
Bike has been sitting outside with no airbox or filter, po rode it a few miles like that as well...........

Then, the rain could have leaked down into the crankcase via intake of carburetors and opened intake valves.
A trip of few miles with that emulsion could have partially damaged the main bearings of the connecting rods.
If damaged happened, you could have seen some tiny flakes of bronze in the drained lubricant.

I hope the engine is still good to serve well.

jkv45 · January 11th, 2016, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggyzac

Okay, so Ive drained the oil. Airbox and filter have been gone for a while, po rode it like that for a bit, I've got a new one coming. Got a bunch of parts coming to put it back right. Will update when parts come in

What the heck did the PO have against this bike?

He's messed-up everything you can possibly mess-up!

Ziggyzac · January 11th, 2016, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

What the heck did the PO have against this bike?

He's messed-up everything you can possibly mess-up!

Right? Basically trashed. I'm checking into it and finding more and more. At least Im only $400 into it. Going to run a coolant leak check and compression check later. Depending on results I may grab a top end I found on fleabay for cheap.

As for bronze shavings in the oil, I didn't notice any, but doesn't mean they aren't there.

I noticed the oil pressure sensor wire is pulled apart, along with headlight clips. I love it when people don't take care of things

Bigballsofpaint · January 11th, 2016, 10:30 AM

Not that this helps any, but that's not a 2011. Its 08-10, the 11's and up had white face gauges. Unless it was just the SE's, but I think it was all models. Either way, that's the least of your worries, good luck!

Jesper Hedegaard · February 6th, 2016, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floki

Year in the VIN is noted by the 10th digit, here is a chart that decodes.

Strange - then mine should be a 2019 model, even if I bought it last year as a 2013-reister 2010 model.....
OK - here in Denmark, I have a 17-digit VIN-#, and if I select digit 12 (A), I get 2010 model from above list.
And how do I know it's a 2010 ?
Well - greeen with a "seat beam" in black should only have been issued in 2010 ;o)
It seems that US and Continental VIN's are different ?

Alex · March 1st, 2016, 08:20 AM

Yes - it looks like Europe has a slightly different setup. I tried to download the ISO standard for it, but it wasn't free.

January 9th, 2016, 12:36 PM	#1
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	Having some issues Hey everyone, just picked up a 2011 250r this morning, has some issues. What is this and where does it run? And on the right side is this connector. What is it for? Thanks for any help, not new to bikes, but this is my first foreign bike

January 9th, 2016, 12:39 PM	#2
pantera ninjette.org member Name: Brion Location: Rochester, NY Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2016 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom / 2017 Kawasaki Ninja 300 Posts: 133	Looks like it may be the rear brake switch.
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January 9th, 2016, 12:54 PM	#4
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	First picture is the rear brake switch. Post a picture of your right footpeg. Specifically; we want to see if your footpeg is stock or if a "rearset" has been installed without the necessary design to hook up the switch. If it's not possible to connect then you must be sure to use your front brake so you will light up your brake light! Second picture is the connector for your right front turn signal. And welcome to the forum and performance motorcycling! __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over
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January 9th, 2016, 01:11 PM	#6
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	http://www.ronniesmailorder.com/oemp...engine-cover-s Flanged bolt 6x25 Part # 132A 132BB0625 __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over

January 9th, 2016, 01:38 PM	#8
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Drain it and have a look at what comes out, but that doesn't look good. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 9th, 2016, 01:00 PM	#5
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	Here's the right side peg. And also, any clue off the top in the size of the 2 screws missing by the sight glass?

January 9th, 2016, 01:27 PM	#7
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	Thanks. Also, just checked the oil in it.. pretty sure it shouldn't look like this lol. Head gasket time?

January 9th, 2016, 01:42 PM	#9
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	Looks like you're taking on a hella project for your first sportbike! Lots of info and help here though. If your at all capable of swinging a home mechanic wrench; it's a great bike to cut your teeth on. I do question the coolant tank: are you sure it's a 2011 bike? That is not a stock tank style judging by the tank bolt. And it looks like it's had a pretty hard life. Perhaps you have a Frankeinbike made up of whatever can be haywired on! Post a couple other pictures of the whole bike, shock, dash etc. It will help us when trying to figure out replies for you. Sorry; just reread and see it's not your first time wrenching. __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over

January 9th, 2016, 01:47 PM	#10
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	No worries. It is my first sport bike, but I did rebuild my shovelhead harley fxr Last winter. It's kind of Janky for sure, previous owner painted everything and did an extremely crappy job of it. Unsure of year for sure, any vin decoder available? I'll grab some more pics of the dash etc

January 9th, 2016, 01:52 PM	#11
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10

January 9th, 2016, 02:17 PM	#12
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	Okay, here's the major issue. Smells like gas so I'll clean the carbs and see what I can come up with.

January 9th, 2016, 02:48 PM	#13
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Cool! Gas in oil is an easier fix than coolant in oil. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 9th, 2016, 02:51 PM	#14
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	VERY true lol. The petcock may have been left on previously, don't know how long it's been sitting. Still going to check the carbs. Also going to grab a manual for it, any suggestions? Clymer was garbage for my harley, is it any better for the ninja?

January 9th, 2016, 02:56 PM	#15
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Your google fu will serve you well here. The ninja 250r service manual is easily found online in pdf form. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

January 9th, 2016, 05:35 PM	#16
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January 9th, 2016, 11:06 PM	#18
Floki Motorcycle Nurse? Name: Jacques Location: Gulf Coast Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R, 1998 Ducati 748L #77/100 Posts: 606	Year in the VIN is noted by the 10th digit, here is a chart that decodes.
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January 10th, 2016, 01:43 AM	#20
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January 10th, 2016, 08:20 AM	#21
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January 10th, 2016, 09:35 AM	#22
SLOWn60 n00bie to wannabie Name: Bill Location: St Ives, BC (Shuswap Lake) Join Date: Sep 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250R (Red), 2005 VFR800A (Red), CRF450X (Red), 2012 F800GS (Wants to be Red!) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '15	This is what ethanol gas and not changing your oil in the fall will do to your engine!!! __________________________________________________ The Smart Money: #1 - ATGATT, #2 - Training (machine skills and survival skills), #3 - The bike; whatever floats yer boat with the money you have left over
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January 10th, 2016, 08:19 PM	#27
daverdfw ninjette.org guru Name: David Location: Fort Worth,TX Join Date: Nov 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 386	holy crap who would paint the exhaust? If you want a stock one let me know, I don't need mine.

January 11th, 2016, 06:02 AM	#28
Ziggyzac ninjette.org member Name: Zac Location: 37091 Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): 83 harley fxr, 2011 ninja 250r Posts: 10	Okay, so Ive drained the oil. Airbox and filter have been gone for a while, po rode it like that for a bit, I've got a new one coming. Got a bunch of parts coming to put it back right. Will update when parts come in

January 11th, 2016, 10:30 AM	#33
Bigballsofpaint ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jay Location: CT Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2015 636 ABS - 69 Honda 305 Posts: A lot.	Not that this helps any, but that's not a 2011. Its 08-10, the 11's and up had white face gauges. Unless it was just the SE's, but I think it was all models. Either way, that's the least of your worries, good luck! __________________________________________________ Current - 2015 30th Anniversary Ninja 636 ABS - 1969 Honda 305 Scrambler Previously - 2011 Ninja 1000, 2008 Ducati 848, 2011 Ninja 250 SE

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