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Old June 10th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #1
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bent shifter pedal

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If the shifter pedal was bent would that cause you not to sfift to a highr gear.

I only ask because I tried to put a 15 tooth front sprocket on and when I did this I could not sfift to 3rd. However with the stock 14 tooth sprocket I can sfift all the way to 6th.

what you think?

I order the whole assimablly today thinking this is the isse. If this does not fix it then it has to be internal.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #2
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The shifter pedal would have to be hitting something in order for the tranny not to shift through the gears. Having a 15 tooth sprocket should not affect the internal shifting of the tranny.

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Take a pic of the bent shifter so we can see it. The stock shifter has a natural bend to it.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 06:57 PM   #3
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Something was wrong in your re-assembly. Check the manual.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 07:44 PM   #4
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^^ what he said. Make sure that the shifter is angled correctly or else you don't have enough leverage to shift it properly.

Also, if you dropped the bike and bent the shift lever, it is likely that you pushed the shifter rod(the think that your shifter knuckle mounts to) further in and thus putting the gear changer out of alignment with the shifter drum. Sorry I don't remember the exact names Kawasaki calls the part. @alex.s has a video and thread regarding it.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 08:39 PM   #5
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With this, if this was the case my 14 tooth sprocket wold do the same as the 15 correct.

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^^ what he said. Make sure that the shifter is angled correctly or else you don't have enough leverage to shift it properly.

Also, if you dropped the bike and bent the shift lever, it is likely that you pushed the shifter rod(the think that your shifter knuckle mounts to) further in and thus putting the gear changer out of alignment with the shifter drum. Sorry I don't remember the exact names Kawasaki calls the part. @alex.s has a video and thread regarding it.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 10:15 PM   #6
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Did you take the shift lever off
to install the sprocket?

If so my guess would be you reinstalled it
one or two teeth clockwise.

If so just take shifter off & move a couple teeth counterclockwise
There is actually an alignment mark on the shifter & the shifter shaft
so you can check

If you did not remove the shifter & have dropped & bent
the shifter of course it could be a possibility that it will no longer
have full throw as linkage adjustment has changed
But easy to bend back as it is malleable,
But surely you would know if it was bent yes?

Other possibility is when you were working on the sprocket
could you have bent just the adjustable shift linkage rod?
That would have the same effect as shifter being moved
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Old June 11th, 2014, 01:12 AM   #7
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Here is the picture


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The shifter pedal would have to be hitting something in order for the tranny not to shift through the gears. Having a 15 tooth sprocket should not affect the internal shifting of the tranny.

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...66&postcount=1


Take a pic of the bent shifter so we can see it. The stock shifter has a natural bend to it.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 04:09 AM   #8
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You have it mounted so low that it may be hitting the pushrod. Why is it so low?
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Old June 11th, 2014, 04:41 AM   #9
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Here is the picture
Your shift lever looks like it belongs on a pre-gen (it may also just be the paint). It's also looks too straight. When it's too straight it hit's the shift rod. To miss hitting the shift rod you have to mount it lower than the shift rod. Normally it is mounted about 1/4 "" higher and parallel to the shift rod (shift rod looks messed up too). Adjust the tie rod link to where there is approx 3 " between the front tie rod lock nut to the rear lock nut.

After looking at your whole gear change assy, it believe it is one from a pregen Ninja 250. Compare yours to my pics.
This is what you need;

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE,PEDAL

13242-0050

ROD-ASSY-TIE
39110-1075

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE
13242-0071

You can buy new or off ebay.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #10
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I ordered a whole new ASSY yesterday. I should get it friday. I think this will fix my issue. I plan on doing the change this weekend. I will let you all know how it goes.

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Your shift lever looks like it belongs on a pre-gen (it may also just be the paint). It's also looks too straight. When it's too straight it hit's the shift rod. To miss hitting the shift rod you have to mount it lower than the shift rod. Normally it is mounted about 1/4 "" higher and parallel to the shift rod (shift rod looks messed up too). Adjust the tie rod link to where there is approx 3 " between the front tie rod lock nut to the rear lock nut.

After looking at your whole gear change assy, it believe it is one from a pregen Ninja 250. Compare yours to my pics.
This is what you need;

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE,PEDAL

13242-0050

ROD-ASSY-TIE
39110-1075

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE
13242-0071

You can buy new or off ebay.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 05:21 AM   #11
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If my pedal is from a pre gen 07 or older, could this be the reason why when I put a 15 tooth sprocket on it wont go above 2nd gear?
Remember with a 14 tooth it will go all the way through the gears.

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Your shift lever looks like it belongs on a pre-gen (it may also just be the paint). It's also looks too straight. When it's too straight it hit's the shift rod. To miss hitting the shift rod you have to mount it lower than the shift rod. Normally it is mounted about 1/4 "" higher and parallel to the shift rod (shift rod looks messed up too). Adjust the tie rod link to where there is approx 3 " between the front tie rod lock nut to the rear lock nut.

After looking at your whole gear change assy, it believe it is one from a pregen Ninja 250. Compare yours to my pics.
This is what you need;

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE,PEDAL

13242-0050

ROD-ASSY-TIE
39110-1075

LEVER-ASSY-CHANGE
13242-0071

You can buy new or off ebay.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 05:49 AM   #12
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it could be hitting something on the kick stand mount. disconnect the bolt under the sprocket pull the assembly off and rotate it counter clockwise a little bit till it slides into place. it appears the gear shift assembly is off line.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 07:14 AM   #13
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If my pedal is from a pre gen 07 or older, could this be the reason why when I put a 15 tooth sprocket on it wont go above 2nd gear?
Remember with a 14 tooth it will go all the way through the gears.
You could take the chain and sprocket off, but if the linkages are not adjusted right, it will not go into gear right. The only part that is the same between the the pre and new gens is the ROD-ASSY-TIE,39110-1075. The other 2 are slightly different.

Both pre and new gen shifters are adjusted similarly. Yours is not.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 02:25 PM   #14
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Old June 11th, 2014, 05:59 PM   #15
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kawi posi-neutral bearings?
I thought that but he says he couldn't shift to third. This setup keeps you from even going into second on the stand or not moving.
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