December 7th, 2012, 03:50 PM | #121 |
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December 7th, 2012, 03:56 PM | #122 | |
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First number is Idle, second number is at 5000 rpm. As standard with all our tests, we use the accepted static dbA testing procedure at 20", 45 degree. OEM Muffler/System 79 / 89 AP Std System, LQ Muffler 81 / 92 AP Std System, Std Muffler 87 / 102 AP Ultra Hi Mt, Std Muffler 85 / 99 |
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December 7th, 2012, 03:59 PM | #123 |
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December 7th, 2012, 05:25 PM | #124 |
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You know what's so cool about all this? kbryant clearly knows his stuff inside and out, is willing to share openly and is darned good at communicating.
As a guy who makes his living communicating, I really like that. |
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December 7th, 2012, 09:17 PM | #125 |
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I can't wait to see this one, especially if it mounts under the lower peg like a gsxr600 or a r6 I would love to see how that would look on this bike,
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December 7th, 2012, 09:21 PM | #126 | |
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December 7th, 2012, 09:24 PM | #127 |
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December 7th, 2012, 09:28 PM | #130 |
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December 7th, 2012, 09:45 PM | #131 |
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Deal with what law? The db law that went into effect? That only portains to bikes maked after jan 1st 2013. So your in the clear! And they have to have reason to stop you and check your exhaust db, they cannot stop you just for that, its a 2ndary offence, (did some homework)
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December 7th, 2012, 09:47 PM | #132 |
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December 7th, 2012, 10:36 PM | #133 |
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@gsxrninja250, based on my question, Alex linked us to the proper thread for the discussion on the CA law so we didn't go OT and gunk up this thread.
PS - there's a multi-quote feature so you don't have to quote people in separate posts and answer the same thing twice. |
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December 7th, 2012, 11:03 PM | #134 |
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That cannot be stated enough...love exclusives, I hope we continue to be special to the folks at Area P I hope Eddie has other bikes to ride during this period. Looking forward to the next update and dispelling of rumors!
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December 7th, 2012, 11:32 PM | #135 |
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It was a pleasure lending Kerry the bike. Cool dude smart as hell too. Explained the whole process even though I found my self lost a lot just wondering what all those terms meant. Also gave me a ride back to forth to get the bike.
Installed a clean looking fender eliminator because the one I had was home made and very ulgy also cleaned up my wiring which I hacked away at and new turn signals. |
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December 8th, 2012, 06:34 AM | #136 |
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December 8th, 2012, 09:21 PM | #137 |
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@kbryant I was wondering, with he ultra high mount exhaust, is there gonna be any way to retain the passenger pegs? Or maybe make a option to keep them? (Incase any of use wanna do two up riding?) Or not likely?
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December 8th, 2012, 10:47 PM | #138 | |
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December 9th, 2012, 12:42 AM | #139 | |
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December 9th, 2012, 10:54 AM | #140 |
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Hi Kerry,
I have been following the forum on the Ninja 300 exhaust and I have some quick questions for you. I am for sure going to want the ultra high mount exhaust and with that being said, on your website you have the picture of a ninja 250 race exhaust Can this muffler in the picture work with the new ultra high mount? Or are you coming out with Race full systems for the Ninja 300 Or are the new exhaust in production for the Ninja 300 race systems? What are the difference between the race and regular full systems? |
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December 9th, 2012, 05:22 PM | #142 | |
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We are not classifing a difference between "race & regular full systems" on the 300 series. We were able to combine the best of both within these designs. Essentially you will simply differentiate them by standard mount and/or ultra high mount. The standard mount will also have the option of the long quiet core muffler. Performance increases, with the proper mapping, is very similar between all of them. We'll be showing dyno graphs next. |
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December 9th, 2012, 05:25 PM | #143 |
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December 9th, 2012, 06:59 PM | #144 |
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Below are our dyno graphs from our initial R&D tuning sessions. We have created 7 base maps to work with initially and will continue to refine & perfect them, creating an even larger data base. In addition, as previously indicated, our partner in the FI Micro Programmer (Fuelmoto), will be getting one our production systems and creating even more maps under their perfect conditions. These maps will also include airbox delete (K&N Filter Pod). Under Fuelmoto's expert tuning hands, we believe the performance numbers will yield even better numbers.
We hope to have additional information up on our website within the next week, to include pricing, part numbers and additional technical data. We also have additional "bolt-on" performance parts undergoing R&D for the 300 as well. Run #3 - Baseline stock run OEM exhaust. Run #28 - OEM exhaust with FI Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run # 3 - Baseline stock run OEM exhaust. Run #80 - Area P Ultra High Mount System, Fi Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run # 3 - Baseline stock run OEM exhaust. Run #56 - Area P Standard Mount System, Standard Muffler. FI Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run #80 -Area P Ultra High Mount System, Fi Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run # 3 - Baseline stock run OEM exhaust. Run #56 - Area P Standard Mount System, Standard Muffler. FI Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed. K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run #80 -Area P Ultra High Mount System, Fi Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run #90 - Area P Standard System, Long Quiet Muffler, FI Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. As you can note, all versions of the Area P systems, with proper mapping, have very similiar performance characteristics. Especially noting that the Standard System with Long Quiet Muffler being very quiet as compared, yet offers excellent performance. Run #3 - Baseline stock run OEM exhaust. Run #28 - OEM exhaust with FI Micro Programmer, Snorkel removed, K&N Filter Panel direct replacement. Run #40 - Slip-On prototype. This last graph we included only to illustrate the reason why we will not be offering a Slip-On. We can get within .3 hp (yes, 3/10th) as much performance from our FI Micro Programmer (at peak) and the OEM muffler, as with a Slip-On (and our Micro Programmer). We gave it every oppertunity, including many different design versions. And further, without the FI Programmer, we struggled to get a Slip-On to perform as good as stock! A Slip-On is reasonably easy to design & manufacture. So believe me, if a Slip-On offered more performance than what we have noted (and remember that's with our FI Micro Programmer as well), we would be offering one. So just like we found on the 250R, a significant "performance" increase just isn't there with a Slip-On. |
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December 9th, 2012, 07:59 PM | #145 | |
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Thanks for the fast response. I understand now. So just to clarify the muffler in the picture has a flat top at the end of the muffler can I get that same muffler on the ultra high mount system? Thanks David |
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December 9th, 2012, 08:33 PM | #146 |
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Wow, very nearly 40whp. Thumbs up!!!!!!!
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December 9th, 2012, 08:51 PM | #147 |
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That's our Flat Conical Billet End Cap and yes it's available as an option.
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December 9th, 2012, 08:55 PM | #148 |
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Now I'm curious to know what these are gonna cost!
Do we find out soon? |
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December 9th, 2012, 09:01 PM | #149 |
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Perfect! I am in. I will want to get the pod filters as well. As this is what I have on my custom fuel injection Ninja 250R. Do you think the Power Command V with ignition controls will provide a little more torque if you advance the timing? Otherwise I will do the micro fuel moto?
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December 9th, 2012, 09:03 PM | #150 |
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December 9th, 2012, 09:24 PM | #151 |
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Great information thank you for sharing with us all. Was this AF adjustments only?
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December 9th, 2012, 10:37 PM | #152 |
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Bet the OP can't wait to get his hands on one...
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December 9th, 2012, 10:50 PM | #153 |
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...yeah, especially after all that leg humping.
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December 10th, 2012, 12:07 AM | #154 |
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I wish but with the new law I think police will be revenue happy enough seeing a modded bike. That ultra high is a real looker though. :]
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December 10th, 2012, 01:45 AM | #155 |
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December 10th, 2012, 07:46 AM | #156 |
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That's not entirely true, as listed here. But let's please leave the CA law discussion in that other thread.
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December 10th, 2012, 08:43 AM | #157 | |
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That being said, when we get the bike and production systems to Fuelmoto for additional map R&D, and to also test the airbox delete mod, they will also be checking timing adjustments on a PCV. It's always possible to see additional improvments with Timing, but it will be surprising if it does. The FI Micro Programmer is the way to go. It's smaller, user friendly, and costs about $60 or so (street price) less than a PCV. You also get a two year warranty on it. |
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December 10th, 2012, 08:47 AM | #158 |
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December 10th, 2012, 08:51 AM | #159 |
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You said before, full system will not be a lot more than the 250 full system correct?
And we are about 8 weeks from any units shipping out? |
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Yes, we estimate about 8 weeks before being ready for shipping. |
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