August 9th, 2013, 05:28 PM | #41 |
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Ride normally, get the ECU replaced that way it's not a hassle if you ever decide to sell.
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August 9th, 2013, 05:40 PM | #42 |
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My bike isn't any less safe today than it was a month ago. It hasn't exhibited the stalling problem, so I'm not going to worry about it. When parts are easily available and I can get it in and out of service without an issue, I'll schedule the repair at that point.
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August 9th, 2013, 06:19 PM | #43 |
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I also got a letter today, the stalling has only happened to me once, I believe.
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August 10th, 2013, 04:33 AM | #44 |
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Got my recall notice yesterday. Haven't been having any problems with stalling, so I'm not really in a hurry to take it into the dealership.
I also don't feel like uninstalling the Area-P tuner that I just installed. Not really sure what to do. I guess I should take it to get it "fixed" though.
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August 10th, 2013, 06:32 AM | #45 | |
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August 10th, 2013, 07:39 AM | #46 |
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I dunno, for some reason I thought that I might need to remove it. I went over to the dealership today and they told me it wouldn't be a problem. They didn't have any ecu's in yet though.
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August 10th, 2013, 07:47 AM | #47 |
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I just got off the phone with my dealership and I told them that I was not in a hurry because it only happened once and I had the tuner in now and they said it needs to be done asap. He just got the notice yesterday as well. He will call me when the parts are in.
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August 10th, 2013, 08:36 AM | #48 |
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fairly positive i ran into an article somewhere saying you do only have till X date to get it done....
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August 10th, 2013, 08:45 AM | #49 |
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only time limit on my letter is the dealer has 60 days from when I contact him to get the work done
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August 13th, 2013, 05:44 AM | #51 |
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Kawasaki is Recalling 11,097 Ninja 300 and 300 ABS motorcycles
WASHINGTON, D.C. – August 9, 2013 – (Motor Sports Newswire) - RECALL Subject: Motorcycle May Stall under Deceleration Increasing the Risk of a Crash Report Receipt Date: JUL 29, 2013 NHTSA Campaign Number: 13V328000 Component(s): ELECTRICAL SYSTEM Potential Number of Units Affected: 11,097 Vehicle Make Model Model Year(s) KAWASAKI NINJA 300 2013 Manufacturer: Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. SUMMARY: Kawasaki Motors Corp. is recalling certain model year 2013 Ninja 300 and 300 ABS motorcycles manufactured July 16, 2012, through April 27, 2013. Due to an improper setting in the Electronic Control Unit (ECU), the motorcycle may stall under deceleration. CONSEQUENCE: A stall under deceleration increases the risk of a crash. REMEDY: Kawasaki will notify owners, and dealers will replace the ECU. The recall is expected to begin in mid-August 2013. Owners may contact Kawasaki at 1-866-802-9381. NOTES: Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.
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August 13th, 2013, 02:32 PM | #52 |
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I called my dealer this morning, and he confirmed what has been already posted in this thread. They need to take a look at the ECU itself, as a number of them were fixed prior to being released, but Kawi didn't have enough records to confirm which ones were truly fixed. They take a look at the ECU, buried somewhere in the tailsection, and if there is a blue sticker/dot on it already, the ECU has already been updated before the bike was sold. If not, they'll order a new one and plug it in. Unfortunately they say they can't order it until they confirm it visually, as the order has to be tied to the VIN. This makes for a two-step process. But - they said they'd be able to take a look quickly this Saturday, and then order the part for the next weekend if it turns out that it is needed.
As I posted above, this problem doesn't seem to have surfaced on my bike, so I'm curious if mine was one of the ones that was fixed already.
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August 13th, 2013, 03:10 PM | #53 | |
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August 13th, 2013, 04:24 PM | #54 |
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That would be funny if it turns out that mine doesn't need it, luck of the draw from our dealer picking out which one goes to who that morning last year. I wish it were easier to find sales numbers for particular models per quarter or per year, but it's always hard data to track down. I'm not sure what that 11,000 represents either, over what time period and what percentage during that time period are subject to it.
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August 13th, 2013, 06:22 PM | #55 |
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Took mine in yesterday took less than 30 min. I had no issues before or after. Issue is according to my dealer when down shifting those who shift one gear at a time may not notice anything, those who pull both clutch and brake then down shift several gears could have issues. Took the dealer 4 days to get it in.
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August 13th, 2013, 07:57 PM | #56 |
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Yup, I called my dealer and my bike needs it too. They said they can't order my part until they get the bike in, and hold it hostage for about 4 working days. It doesn't really matter to me since I'm track-only, but sux that they have to sit on the bike that long, instead of just ordering the part and letting me to to switch it out. ah, stuff happens.
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August 13th, 2013, 07:59 PM | #57 | |
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I guess @Jiggles would be the local authority on if anything really did get corrected or not. I know it's not gonna happen but I really want to keep my old ECU...just incase |
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August 13th, 2013, 08:02 PM | #58 |
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Meh I don't really care, it doesn't affect me at the track
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August 15th, 2013, 10:28 AM | #59 |
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If you ever need to sell it, you will want this done. That is the only reason I am getting mine replaced.
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August 15th, 2013, 10:45 AM | #60 |
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I took my 300 in yesterday to NCHM in Vista, CA. They REQUIRE the bike be in their possession BEFORE ordering the part. Kinda bullsh*t considering the part is backordered, there were 7 other 300's sitting there waiting for the part, and there is no indication when the part will be delivered. Kawi's covering their ass by trying to take the bikes off the street/track, but then not stepping out and prioritizing the distribution of the new ECU's. Someone's gonna have to bring a class action on this. . .
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August 15th, 2013, 07:01 PM | #63 |
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I just emailed my dealer, I didn't receive the letter until the day the part arrived.
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August 16th, 2013, 10:44 AM | #65 |
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Parts in and I have a 10 am appointment tomorrow.
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August 16th, 2013, 06:29 PM | #66 |
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I too am wondering what I should do since I have almost 4000 miles and have had NO problems whatsoever. I hate to take to a "stealership" and they eff up something. Decisions Decisions!!
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August 16th, 2013, 06:44 PM | #67 |
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If you are going to ride it until you leave it in a daisy field or crash it to get a r6, do nothing. If there is a chance you will ever sell it, then you need to get the ecu replaced.
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August 16th, 2013, 08:33 PM | #68 |
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My dealer call me yesterday to inform me of the recall but I got the letter last week. He said he was confirming that I was going to bring the bike in to them and that he already ordered the part. With over 4600 miles on the bike and it only stalled from pulling the clutch in once I'm not too worried.
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August 17th, 2013, 08:04 AM | #69 |
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Replacement took them about 30 minutes. I was the first customer to have it done. They did do the swap on the demo first. Of the 18 that they will need to do, no one has had the stalling issue.
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August 17th, 2013, 08:09 AM | #70 |
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The ride feel any different?
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August 17th, 2013, 08:16 AM | #71 |
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August 17th, 2013, 09:21 AM | #72 |
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I've experienced the stall more often than I'd like. Plus an unusual variation in revs when deccelerating. Two tuesday's ago I called the dealership in Mesa, the said they'd order the part. 1 week later I got a call, was told to schedule a time to come, i scheudled for friday during my lunch break. Brought the bike in, was there for about 35 minutes and was on my way.
So far no stalling, but I only had the ecu replaced yesterday. The decelerating is a bit smoother in the lower gears. I'll try to see if i can get it to stall by closing the throttle and pulling the clutch but I'm fairly confident the ecu replacement has been successful and painless.
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August 17th, 2013, 12:47 PM | #73 |
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Anybody notice any effect on gas mileage? Got the snail mail but haven't made an appointment at the dealer yet.
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August 17th, 2013, 01:21 PM | #74 |
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After I installed the Area-P exhaust with a micro tuner I lost about 3 MPG with the first 2 tanks, but I have significantly more power. Because of the micro tuner I will never know what if any difference the ecu makes.
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August 17th, 2013, 05:50 PM | #75 |
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Had the recall fixed at the dealership today, less than an hour.
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August 17th, 2013, 06:17 PM | #76 |
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Don't forget that the micro tuner after getting a new ecu from Kwaki needs a new tune since the setup has changed.
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August 29th, 2013, 07:52 PM | #80 |
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I just had my ECU replaced today under the recall campaign. I had my Ninja stall twice, both times when the engine was cold and during a hot and humid day, and both times with the clutch pulled during braking while approaching a stop sign. It seems this was a simple calibration tweak, as the idle control simply didn't catch it in time as the RPM dropped. IMO it's a waste of NHTSA resources as it doesn't appear to be a real risk, just an annoyance at worst.
Anyway, it took my dealer 15 minutes to swap it out, however it took about 10 days for the ECU to come in after I initially visited and they verified my VIN was affected. The engine feels identical, as it should with such a simple cal change.
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