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Old March 4th, 2018, 02:36 PM   #1
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Spilled my 250

I purchased a 2004 250r about a week ago, and managed to lay it down on loose gravel doing about twenty miles per hour. Now in addition to the other repairs, it's leaking oil. Anyone else ever experienced this?
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Old March 4th, 2018, 03:01 PM   #2
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I'm sure you're not alone. Clean the oil off well, and then look carefully to see where it's coming out.

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Old March 4th, 2018, 05:59 PM   #3
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Hi and welcome !

We've all done that! My first spill was getting out of previous owner's steep driveway after buying my first bike!

Yeah clean if off really well so you can eat off it. The look around really closely when idling it to see where the oil is coming out. Inspect every inch of every gasket from the bottom up.
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Old March 5th, 2018, 11:00 AM   #4
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Welcome to the board! Sorry you spilled her, but hopefully you'll be able to find and repair that oil leak.
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Old March 7th, 2018, 03:43 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input guys. I discovered that it wasn't oil that it's leaking, but rather coolant from that line going underneath the Stator to the water pump.

As for my accident, I'm still afraid to get back on it, as I panicked both times and gave it way too much gas, sending me off into history.
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Old March 8th, 2018, 06:36 PM   #6
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Practice in a parking lot, or some other kind of open space where you can go as slow as you want to and not worry about being run over by traffic. No stress, you know? Find the spot the clutch starts to grab, and get a feel for the gas.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 08:30 PM   #7
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Practice in a parking lot, or some other kind of open space where you can go as slow as you want to and not worry about being run over by traffic. No stress, you know? Find the spot the clutch starts to grab, and get a feel for the gas.
Awesome! Thanks for the input. I ordered a copy of Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough as well to study in the meantime.
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Riding a bike is fantastic and fun, but you do need to have some confidence in your skills. So build them in a situation that has low stress. You might also look for a skills class in your area- they help a lot to build both skills and confidence. I've taken both the "learn to ride" class and one that was for established riders.
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Practice in a parking lot, or some other kind of open space where you can go as slow as you want to and not worry about being run over by traffic. No stress, you know? Find the spot the clutch starts to grab, and get a feel for the gas.
Yes, nothing beats hands-on practice. When my wife started, she got a set of cones and did parking-lot practice at local college about 2-3x a week. At first, it was just simple 4-corner squares, then 2-cone rectangles, then figure-8s, etc.

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Old March 10th, 2018, 04:10 PM   #10
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As for my accident, I'm still afraid to get back on it, as I panicked both times and gave it way too much gas, sending me off into history.
Well, don't give up! At least you've learned to avoid gravel.

It may seem counterintuitive, but a lot of beginner slow down too much. What happens is they tend to cut into corners too early and too tight, then they slow down too much and start tipping over. Then they panic and give it too much gas too suddenly trying to recover. The problem isn't that you gave it too much throttle, that's just result of and side-effect of slowing down too much.

Practice doing wide sweeping turns in parking lots. Do 50-ft rings around a cone. Do 50-ft rings around 4-cones. Note that by tying all 4 90-degree corners into one big loop, you don't have to slow down for each one?

New concept call "maintenance throttle" came about. Don't complete!y let off throttle in corner, you need some throttle on to keep speed steady in corner because cornering naturally scrubs off speed.
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Well, don't give up! At least you've learned to avoid gravel.

It may seem counterintuitive, but a lot of beginner slow down too much. What happens is they tend to cut into corners too early and too tight, then they slow down too much and start tipping over. Then they panic and give it too much gas too suddenly trying to recover. The problem isn't that you gave it too much throttle, that's just result of and side-effect of slowing down too much.

Practice doing wide sweeping turns in parking lots. Do 50-ft rings around a cone. Do 50-ft rings around 4-cones. Note that by tying all 4 90-degree corners into one big loop, you don't have to slow down for each one?

New concept call "maintenance throttle" came about. Don't complete!y let off throttle in corner, you need some throttle on to keep speed steady in corner because cornering naturally scrubs off speed.
Hey I really appreciate this! I didn't know that until you posted this. Thanks.
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Old March 10th, 2018, 08:22 PM   #12
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Yes, nothing beats hands-on practice. When my wife started, she got a set of cones and did parking-lot practice at local college about 2-3x a week. At first, it was just simple 4-corner squares, then 2-cone rectangles, then figure-8s, etc.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Thanks for the tip and sharing the vid, I really appreciate it!
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Thanks for the tip and sharing the vid, I really appreciate it!
You're welcome! Don't even need that structured of training. Just find empty lot and do loops. Public properties like colleges have largr empty lots and don't chase you away. Good luck and have fun!

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Poor fella!! Nothing more depressing than your new toy going splat. Still though, I've ever owned anything with two wheels that didn't eventually end up on its side. Such is the nature of the beast welcome to heaven population YOU / MOTORCYCLING.
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CLUTCH!!!!!!

First range exercise in the MSF course is walking the bike across the parking lot, slipping the clutch so you find the friction zone.

Learn how the clutch interacts with the throttle. Leaving the clutch out (or dumping it) while grabbing a handful of throttle leads to bad things.... but then you know that now.
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Yes, nothing beats hands-on practice. When my wife started, she got a set of cones and did parking-lot practice at local college about 2-3x a week. At first, it was just simple 4-corner squares, then 2-cone rectangles, then figure-8s, etc.

Link to original page on YouTube.

YES!!! I LOVE this low-speed technical stuff! I got 100% on the safety course just because I enjoyed it so much ironically that low-speed skill for creeping like a champ has served me so well in so many situations. Oh I'm stuck behind a row of cars that can't move but look at all that space right there I could just... Yeah EFF it I'm going for it... Peace suckers.
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