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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:11 PM   #1
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Unknown carb part

Hey guys, hopefully you can help me with a predicament. I had taken my carbs apart to clean the other day and this little part fell out while I was flipping the carbs upside down. The thing is, I don't know where it came out of. I checked the exploded diagrams and couldn't find it.

2+ heads are better than one so if anyone could help me figure out where it came from that would be splendid. This came out of a 2004 Ninja 250r.


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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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Have you posted a picture of the part?
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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:20 PM   #3
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I've had my 09 carbs apart a few times and I don't remember seeing that part anywhere. Older carbs could be different I guess.

BTW... Can you add another picture that includes a known object within the picture so we can have an idea of the scale of the suspect part.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:39 PM   #4
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Kinda looks like a press-in needle jet to me

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Old June 1st, 2012, 12:54 PM   #5
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Here's a lame over the head shot & size comparison shot.

Does a press in needle jet fit underneath the main or aux jets? When this fell out both jets were out already.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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Gizmo above emulsion tube/main jet

See the pic above "Cleaning Process", even has instructions on which way it goes in.


http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Cleaning_the_carbs_1
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Old June 1st, 2012, 01:44 PM   #7
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Old June 1st, 2012, 01:53 PM   #8
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Ah, I see it now! Thank you for the help.
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 10:25 AM   #9
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Mtn Dew is correct, its the needle seat.
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Old June 4th, 2012, 01:57 PM   #10
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Its the needle seat and goes under the main jet. Beveled side towards the needle.
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Old June 4th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #11
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So that's how it happens, just turn the carbs upside down and the needle seats fall out and get lost.

Anyone remember that recent thread in which @azwillnj spent an incredible amount of time and effort trying to get his new-to-him 2007 to run?

And it turned out that his carbs didn't have any needle seats in them when he bought it! He totally proved that there's no way to get an EX-250 to run well without needle seats in the carbs (no matter how many times you clean the carbs).

The thread has some really good pictures of the needle seats on page number 4. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98983
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Old June 10th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #12
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So that's how it happens, just turn the carbs upside down and the needle seats fall out and get lost.

Anyone remember that recent thread in which @azwillnj spent an incredible amount of time and effort trying to get his new-to-him 2007 to run?

And it turned out that his carbs didn't have any needle seats in them when he bought it! He totally proved that there's no way to get an EX-250 to run well without needle seats in the carbs (no matter how many times you clean the carbs).

The thread has some really good pictures of the needle seats on page number 4. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98983
Just a tip: See the numbered link at the upper right of each post? You can link to posts instead of pages. Many people change their posts-per-page setting in the User Control Panel so that they don't have to click through so many pages to read things. It really helps bandwidth and delays too: load more at once, spend less time loading more pages for the same content with fresh ads (sorry, Alex). Unfortunately, the feature means that page numbers are mostly irrelevant because many people have different PPP settings.
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Just a tip: See the numbered link at the upper right of each post? You can link to posts instead of pages. Many people change their posts-per-page setting in the User Control Panel so that they don't have to click through so many pages to read things. It really helps bandwidth and delays too: load more at once, spend less time loading more pages for the same content with fresh ads (sorry, Alex). Unfortunately, the feature means that page numbers are mostly irrelevant because many people have different PPP settings.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #14
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The only problem with linking to posts is that they only seem to list one post as opposed to making them the starting post on the page.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...&postcount=138

But yes, the needle seats just fall out if you aren't careful. They aren't press fit because they need to be replaced when they wear out.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 05:44 AM   #15
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The only problem with linking to posts is that they only seem to list one post as opposed to making them the starting post on the page.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...&postcount=138

But yes, the needle seats just fall out if you aren't careful. They aren't press fit because they need to be replaced when they wear out.
Sometimes, that's a desirable thing. If not, click the link, then look at the "Thread" link right above it. That one takes you to the full thread AND scrolls you down to that particular post regardless of the page setting. If you didn't want to go through the trouble to click it and grab the other URL, the people you are sharing the particular post with can see and use the "Thread" link just as well.
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The only problem with linking to posts is that they only seem to list one post as opposed to making them the starting post on the page.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...&postcount=138.
You can fix that by changing the word "showpost" to "showthread" and leave everything else the same. It will link to that post within the full thread.

like this:

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...&postcount=138
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