April 21st, 2016, 07:22 AM | #1 |
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Dog vs Motorcycle
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April 21st, 2016, 08:03 AM | #2 |
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Every time I watch it I concentrate on the guy who jumps out of the way of the tractor trailer. That second angle makes it look like he might have been already out of range, not that I would want to be skidding towards an 18 wheeler.
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April 21st, 2016, 01:39 PM | #3 |
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Believe it or not, bobtail trucks are harder to stop on a whim like that because there's less weight on the drive wheels. But, in that situation not having the trailer saved both parties. Tractor/Trailer could've easily jack-knifed and take out the rest of the crew.
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April 21st, 2016, 01:46 PM | #4 |
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I don't think the dog lived.
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April 28th, 2016, 07:58 AM | #5 |
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crash analysis from revzilla
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April 28th, 2016, 08:21 AM | #6 |
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One item that goes either completely ignored or gets glossed over is that they were on a group ride. A group ride is like a formation flight for airplanes, it's a complicated and dynamic situation.
I flew in the Air Force for 20 years and whenever the flight profile included formation flight the mission planning session would include a special briefing that covered formation procedures. Flying in formation without briefing it beforehand (covering the procedures and safety issues) was forbidden. In this particular article the writer does mention that if the lead rider had made an effort to signal the riders behind it might have helped. |
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April 28th, 2016, 08:36 AM | #7 |
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The group we ride with generally signals to riders behind them of hazards. I find it odd that the riders behind the ones braking didn't slow until things started crashing. There's a reason they hit the brakes.... it's like passing a car that's stopped in the lane next to you. We have had pedestrians get hit that way. One car stops to let them cross, and the car in the next lane over just blows past the stopped one.
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April 28th, 2016, 09:37 AM | #8 |
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That is a good point about group ride. Not something i do but it makes a lot of sense to point things out. Just like we do when we are riding as a group of bicyclists
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April 28th, 2016, 09:47 AM | #9 |
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Holy crap. I didn't see the video the first time b/c of the warning about the dog but I watched it after reading the after action report.
Situational awareness issues aside this video is yet another reason why I'm a firm believer in ABS for street bikes. Also, somebody needs to buy that trucker a beer. |
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- an upright bike on the brakes decelerates faster than a bike on its side. the 2nd rider might not have had to crash at all. |
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April 28th, 2016, 12:27 PM | #12 |
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yeah, if you don't collide with anything. like a dog or another bike, abs for the second rider would have resulted in him hitting the bike or rider.
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April 28th, 2016, 01:01 PM | #13 |
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so your supposition is that despite reacting in time by hitting the brakes a bike with abs would decelerate slower than a bike sliding on its side.
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April 28th, 2016, 01:32 PM | #14 |
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Expert riders can decelerate faster without ABS but for the average person, ABS will help them stay upright and brake faster, barring stuff on the road knocking them down.
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April 28th, 2016, 01:45 PM | #15 |
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The people in the vid are not experts: maybe the truck driver.
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Anyone else notice the R6 rider is carrying a Glock?
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April 28th, 2016, 04:26 PM | #17 | |
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The "take away" comments from that article are fantastic:
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April 28th, 2016, 04:58 PM | #18 |
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Sure, but what's significant about that? I personally think they have the least comfortable grip and worst stock sights of any polymer pistol I've ever touched, but I respect his right to carry whatever works for him.
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April 28th, 2016, 06:08 PM | #19 |
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very good point akima!
The whole gist for me is situational awareness! Braking aside, had the rider anticipated the dog better, the situation would have been much "easier".
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April 28th, 2016, 10:45 PM | #20 |
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Had the second rider been paying attention and not following so closely, he would have no incident.
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April 29th, 2016, 12:47 PM | #22 |
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The difference between following too close vs giving yourself ample room
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April 29th, 2016, 01:04 PM | #23 |
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That makes me pucker just looking at it! Looks like he was only carrying about a second of following distance; definitely not a full two!
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June 13th, 2016, 11:58 AM | #24 |
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Let's analyze this crash to gain insight.
Main video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI9VDlwWF0Q Angle 2: (Key angle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q6mRPP1_58 Part of me feels like that the dog shouldn't have brought the bike down. Was he too hard on the front brakes causing the highside? Also, I think the formation is wrong and the guy from behind accelerated up way too close giving himself no time to brake. The second guy put himself in even more danger with the oncoming Truck. |
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little late to the game, been discussed
/merged @Alex Now where is that other discussion Found it: 264465 Edit: This one is the same however more detailed to your original post request 265183
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woops. Let's delete this one
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