sideswiped and doesn't even care

[alex.s]

Link to original page on YouTube.

[DEFY]

Well not like there is any where to pull over on that highway. Could had been reported as a hit and run but that was all on the van. Crossing two lanes of traffic and not even pausing to check before moving into last lane. Luckily the rider didn't get knocked down.

[Alex]

I don't understand the horn. The van is coming over fast enough to, well, kill you, and the rider's first reaction is to try a meep meep? Rider should have been on the brakes or the gas well before the van hit them. It's pure luck that this isn't a R.I.P. video.

[Skullz]

Very lucky he didn't go down from the cars mirror breaking off.
This is the very reason when i ride the freeway i go faster than cars do, my 550lbs vs 3500lbs is a losing situation and most often cops let you speed as they know your only speeding for self preservation than speeding in a car which is a +3500lb weapon.

EDIT: I would rather lead the pack than follow the pack, and if your silly enough to stick yourself in the middle of the pack then you'll get all the bad things that go with it.

[cadd]

Holy crap! Ash hole pucker factor: 1,000 right there.

I would've stopped (as I think most of us would). I wonder why he didn't stop? Leads me to believe no license or insurance or registration?

Anytime I see a car switch from right lane to middle lane, I either slow down or speed up so I'm not in his blind spot because I always fear they would cut 2 lanes.

[Motofool]

Good find; this is a very good example, @alex.s !!!

I truly hope that he writes and plays music better than he rides.

"I get sideswiped by an idiot in a minivan."

Not necessarily an idiot, it seems like a regular driver making the common assumption that there is nothing in his/her blind spot.
Quickly moving over two and three lanes is very common here in Florida.

"The camera saw it ....... but I barely had time to react."

Every time that a driver manages putting you into his/her blind spot, it immediately becomes your problem (yes, even if you are two lanes over) and you must see it happening and you should relocate yourself out of there in not more than one or two seconds.

If the camera saw it, the rider could have seen it coming; at least the potential for happening.
If he saw it, then he assumed that the van will not reach him and did nothing about it.
Driver assuming + rider assuming = High risk of rider going down.

Regarding the second half of the sentence: most riders will never have more than the two seconds that he had to see or detect or recognize the dangerous situation starting to develop, to decide and to execute an evasive maneuver.

Copied from the Hurt report:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...he_Hurt_Report

"The typical motorcycle accident allows the motorcyclist just less than 2 seconds to complete all collision avoidance action."

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Motofool

If he saw it, then he assumed that the van will not reach him and did nothing about it.

But he did something about it. He noticed that the van was doing something highly unusual, and he decided to hit the horn, instead of anything to, you know, save his life.

[gantt]

I'm pretty sure I would have had time to react. I would have focused on that van as soon as it starting swapping lanes. This guy needs to pay better attention to what's around him

[LittleRedNinjette]

[akima]

I really like that dude and his attitude! Favourite line:
"I tell ya man. You wanna ride a motorcycle baby, you betta be a real f**k*n' warrior."


Awesome find Alex. Best motorcycle clip I've seen this year.

Edit: @Motofool - fantastic observations as usual

[cadd]

Warrior?!?! What warrior would say "I better not show my wife this video". Lol. She's the boss.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by cadd

Warrior?!?! What warrior would say "I better not show my wife this video". Lol. She's the boss.

I see you did not read American Sniper

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Alex

But he did something about it. He noticed that the van was doing something highly unusual, and he decided to hit the horn, instead of anything to, you know, save his life.

technically the horn does still count as a legal attempt to avoid an accident, per my drivers ed a few years back. So when in doubt, beep!!!

But yeah, I woulda been on the brakes!

[alex.s]

meep meep

[crazymadbastard]

Rider did not go down, or lock the brakes. This was an excellent example, lets focus on the positives negative Nancys...

[RitzykicksHQ]

nice he didnt panic

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

Rider did not go down, or lock the brakes. This was an excellent example, lets focus on the positives negative Nancys...

he did nothing to avoid a potentially fatal crash and then afterward thanked his steering stabilizer which had literally nothing to do with it. he was lucky, didn't understand what had happened, learned nothing from it, left the scene of an accident. i could go on and on, but no. people are not being negative nancys. they are being realistic about what had happened.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by RitzykicksHQ

nice he didnt panic

he did panic. and he froze up and didnt do anything except honk his stupid little horn.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

technically the horn does still count as a legal attempt to avoid an accident, per my drivers ed a few years back. So when in doubt, beep!!!

But yeah, I woulda been on the brakes!

I think that's the difference between driving a vehicle that has a crush zone, and riding one that doesn't. Avoiding accidents is generally a good idea in a car, but even if you are in one, the odds are very good you will survive, and in most cases you might even walk away without a scratch. One accident on a motorcycle at highway speeds can be the rider's last, making awareness and proper riding skills that much more important, IMO.

Any attention a rider places on using a horn to deter another driver from doing something stupid, is wasted time and energy that should be used to first place the bike wherever it needs to be. Only after the rider is sure that they have avoided the proverbial asshat and are out of danger, then whip out that manly hornsickle. (and whatever appropriate digits and vocabulary are warranted)

[Hero Danny]

Car driver didn't cause enough damage to warrant them going through insurance. According to the comment section of the video.

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by alex.s

he did nothing to avoid a potentially fatal crash and then afterward thanked his steering stabilizer which had literally nothing to do with it. he was lucky, didn't understand what had happened, learned nothing from it, left the scene of an accident. i could go on and on, but no. people are not being negative nancys. they are being realistic about what had happened.

I disagree. He did not freak out and go down. A win for sure.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by crazymadbastard

I disagree. He did not freak out and go down. A win for sure.

it's okay to disagree, but you're still wrong. not doing something to avoid crashing is equivalent to doing something to crash. either way you crashed. just because he was lucky and his crash resulted in no real repercussions doesn't mean he did anything correct.

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by alex.s

it's okay to disagree, but you're still wrong. not doing something to avoid crashing is equivalent to doing something to crash. either way you crashed. just because he was lucky and his crash resulted in no real repercussions doesn't mean he did anything correct.

My opinion is right, your opinion is wrong.

[LittleRedNinjette]

[DEFY]

Everyone gather round

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by Alex

then whip out that manly hornsickle

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

technically the horn does still count as a legal attempt to avoid an accident, per my drivers ed a few years back. So when in doubt, beep!!!

But yeah, I woulda been on the brakes!

Hard to say what to do here, we don't know what was going on behind him, so brakes may not have been the viable option, when in doubt throttle out.

[alex.s]

edit: nevermind

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by alex.s

edit: nevermind

[cbinker]

damn, feel like i missed a gem.

[crazymadbastard]

Originally Posted by cbinker

damn, feel like i missed a gem.

almost got him

[akima]

@crazymadbastard - I think the fact he survived counts for something, so I see where you're coming from. I also see where the Alexeseses are coming from: he didn't react in the right way which meant it was largely luck that he survived. Not good to rely on luck when you're on 2 wheels for obvious reasons.

Most importantly, if the rider had Hernan's riding philosophy then he wouldn't have needed to react to an emergency at all. He would have noticed the potential danger before it had a chance to develop into an immediate threat and instigated a mitigating manoeuvre.

The rider has a good attitude towards gear. It might just be that he hasn't had the good fortune to come across a group of riders that have a really sound attitude to street riding (like the peeps of ninjette.org have!).

Originally Posted by cbinker

Hard to say what to do here, we don't know what was going on behind him, so brakes may not have been the viable option, when in doubt throttle out.

On his bike I think that would have been an option. At those speeds on a ninja 2fiddy... I think if you can't steer out of it and you can't brake out of it... only then try to throttle out of it as a last ditch attempt at survival.

[cadd]

Originally Posted by cbinker

Hard to say what to do here, we don't know what was going on behind him, so brakes may not have been the viable option, when in doubt throttle out.

Originally Posted by akima

On his bike I think that would have been an option. At those speeds on a ninja 2fiddy... I think if you can't steer out of it and you can't brake out of it... only then try to throttle out of it as a last ditch attempt at survival.

That's one of the cons of riding a smaller displacement bike. This is the very reason I choose to cruise around 7,000 rpm at a minimum when there's traffic around me (in town riding). When there's heavy traffic in multiple lanes, you'll find me usually cruising at 8,000rpm or higher.....just so it gives me another option to go WOT to get out of a situation. But usually, I just hit the brakes instead as I find that to be the safer option in most situations.

I throttled out a few times in the past only to find the guy tailgating me, as if I were challenging him. So....I just let them go first nowadays. Safer for everyone.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

it's okay to disagree, but you're still wrong. not doing something to avoid crashing is equivalent to doing something to crash. either way you crashed. just because he was lucky and his crash resulted in no real repercussions doesn't mean he did anything correct.

This less lucky rider assumed that the driver was not crazy/drunk/distracted enough to go all the way sideways.

Again, two seconds is all it takes.
Two seconds is all the time we will ever have.
How will you use those precious seconds?

Asking yourself what is wrong with the driver?
Reaching for the horn button?
Waiting to see what happens?
Trying to remember what handlebar to push?
Checking if a car is tailgating you?
Reaching for the front brake lever?

Link to original page on YouTube.

[alex.s]

wow holy ****

[cuong-nutz]

Dammmmmmmmn

[cadd]

Ouch!!!!

Anyone have any ideas of what exactly happened that made the driver hit the motorcyclist and the wall?

[csmith12]

Played in slow-mo, maybe the truck had a blowout on the right front that caused the plowing to the right. hard to see in the vid.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by csmith12

Played in slow-mo, maybe the truck had a blowout on the right front that caused the plowing to the right. hard to see in the vid.

me and a coworker were thinking it might be the case. but the level of the truck doesn't really change much. maybe a steering control failure or just a loose nut behind the wheel

[DEFY]

Not sure but the truck was going slower before making contact, then seems to increase speed toward barrier just before slamming the bike into the it.