February 9th, 2011, 04:37 AM | #1 |
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Request to Retain Closed Shinto Threads
Alex,
Thanks for new Shinto ban. We are all sick of reading about it and all the drama. But do you think it might be possible, while enforcing your outstanding new policy of keeping Shinto and discussion of Shinto from this site, to keep the closed threads around? It would be a nice warning to anyone who may want to deal with them. I did briefly consider a Shinto order and was warned away by all the poor service evidenced here. (This perspective is lacking on newninja, for example.)
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February 9th, 2011, 05:33 AM | #2 |
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I have to agree with Floyd. We would be doing a disservice to enthusiasts, if we helped to whitewash Shinto's reputation.
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February 9th, 2011, 05:36 AM | #3 |
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I don't think Alex has any plans to delete the threads, but with them being closed and with no added responses, they will eventually sink to the bottom of the thread pool, being buried by the many new threads that will be added to this site in the future. What happened here is indeed unfortunate and hopefully Alex will see fit to uphold his decision and delete this thread once he sees the subject matter.
If this is true, anyone who does a search on their own can find out what happened on this site and can decide for themselves to further jeopardize their own wallet or not. A leopard cannot change his spots. |
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February 9th, 2011, 10:23 AM | #4 |
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I already PMd Alex about this. This was my message and his response.
edit (and Alex just deleted PM info from this post)
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February 9th, 2011, 10:25 AM | #5 | |
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This is what I wrote back to him, but haven't received a response about it.
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February 9th, 2011, 10:35 AM | #6 |
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I PM'd him too few days ago and my understanding is that he will delete them after a week or so. I totally understand his perspective but I also do believe as a motorcycle community, not just in this forum but as a collective, we should be looking out for one another. And leaving the threads existent, though not necessarily open, is a good thing for all.
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February 9th, 2011, 10:55 AM | #7 |
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Natalie -
Please do not post contents of PM's publicly, it is specifically prohibited in our TOS for a reason. Thx, Alex
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February 9th, 2011, 11:00 AM | #8 |
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I hear you all, and I'll take your thoughts into consideration; but my first priority is always going to be the users of this particular website rather than the internet as a whole.
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February 9th, 2011, 11:02 AM | #9 |
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Sorry, I didn't realize it was prohibited.
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February 9th, 2011, 12:25 PM | #10 |
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No harm, no foul. There was nothing particularly sensitive in this case, it's just key for people to understand that they can have discussions via PM's without the worry of things being splashed onto public threads right afterwards.
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February 9th, 2011, 02:53 PM | #11 |
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I, too would think it's a good idea to not delete the Shinto threads. Deleting information like that is like a record expungement, effectively giving Shinto a clean sheet. That would be appropriate after they've made proper restitution and establish some sort of positive reputation, but until then I honestly think it's a disservice to the potential future victims in this community.
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February 9th, 2011, 10:30 PM | #12 |
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I gotta agree with Alex on this one, the majority of all the shinto threads consisted of argumentative comments and / or rude remarks. If my understanding is correct, there were new people joining our forum specifically for the purpose of posting / responding to said comments. I don't think that is what these forums are about. These forums are not about bashing companies or criticizing individual people, they're about enjoying our ninjettes and those threads only detracted from that.
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February 10th, 2011, 03:23 AM | #13 |
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i have been off the forum for 3 months ( been focusing on school) i hope shinto does the right thing and refunds money to those people who have been waiting for parts ( me included)
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February 10th, 2011, 07:33 AM | #14 | |
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I believe this kind of post shows Alex's thoughts. We don't want this thread turning into another "bashing" thread. I too expressed my concerns to Alex about finding a balance that would not only protect our current members but also to do some-what of a public service to warn others of the potential financial lose dealing with Shinto. I think closing all Shinto threads and allowing them to dwindle their way to the bottom of our achieves yet would be available for others to read will do fine. At this point we just don't need any new threads starting up and allowing this bad business deal to be all over our board here. Frankly I'm tired of the drama. Let's get back to talking about we all have in common... our ninjette's.
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February 16th, 2011, 10:27 AM | #15 |
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, I personally found it entertaining...not the part where people got screwed left and right, not to mention Vince having Pauls back for as long as he did, but the fact that Paul kept giving excuses and excuses, it was like a soap opera...you never knew what you were gonna hear the next day.
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February 16th, 2011, 10:35 AM | #16 |
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February 16th, 2011, 10:42 AM | #17 | |
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Also, to OP, no one forced you to read the threads. If you didn't want to read about it, you could have simply unsubscribed to the thread. Banning Shinto has basically screwed all of us who were waiting for items.
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February 16th, 2011, 10:52 AM | #18 | |
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February 16th, 2011, 10:53 AM | #19 |
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did vince take your money then give it to "shinto" .. if so then wouldn't vince be on the hook for your money .. well legally.
if you dealt directly im sorry to hear.
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February 16th, 2011, 10:54 AM | #20 |
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Yeah, we can PM Vince. But Paul is ignoring him. He's in the same boat we are in. And yes, he still owes him a hugger. He will probably purposely not fulfill Vince's order, since he thinks Vince screwed him over.
Technically yes, Vince would be responsible, but I, personally, will not go after Vince. I will take it as a loss.
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February 16th, 2011, 10:55 AM | #21 |
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not sure how anyone paid, but if you paid with a credit card you can dispute the charges, at least that way you can get your money back.
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February 16th, 2011, 11:09 AM | #22 |
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payments were made via paypal SEVERAL months ago - not much can be done in the way of a dispute now. please understand, paul has $150 of MY money as well. he'll either come through, or he won't. i think the best thing for us to do is to continue to "bother" him with emails until we get our stuff.
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February 16th, 2011, 11:13 AM | #23 | |
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February 16th, 2011, 11:22 AM | #24 |
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oh yes..........it definitely sucks
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February 16th, 2011, 11:31 AM | #25 |
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/locked.
Please take it to PM's.
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