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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:11 AM   #81
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Any chance I can get a quote for the high mount carbon with the flush end cap and whatever I need to mount it, shipped to 95969? I need a dollar figure to get my wife to sign off on it.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 03:35 PM   #82
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Thanks Kerry!!!

I'd be getting this for 300:
Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler


Debating adding the "Area P/Fuel Moto FI Micro Programmer" if it's needed for max gains..but I might just wait on this part.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 04:31 PM   #83
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Floki - 18" CF street system with the conical end for the 250 with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
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duggram - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler (250)
rasta - I'm in the the 18" system (250)
dave42 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 06:13 PM   #84
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I should be good for a standard mount carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit for the 08+ 250... I am unsure on length but pretty sure I want the one that will offer the most gain (personally like the look of the 12" but like the sound, level and growl, of the 18"). Other information for others who may have an opinion, I will be riding 2-up frequently if there is a benefit to either.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 06:19 PM   #85
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Thanks Kerry!!!

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Debating adding the "Area P/Fuel Moto FI Micro Programmer" if it's needed for max gains..but I might just wait on this part.
Your bike could actually run worse than stock if you don't have a tune to go with the new exhaust.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 07:54 PM   #86
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 08:19 PM   #87
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Any chance I can get a quote for the high mount carbon with the flush end cap and whatever I need to mount it, shipped to 95969? I need a dollar figure to get my wife to sign off on it.
As 95969 (CA) is within the lower 48, one could assume you're shipping costs would be 21.50, but I will forward you estimate request to Kerry.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 08:26 PM   #88
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Floki - 250 - 18" CF street system with the conical end, with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
BlackBetty - 250 - full race system, 18" carbon muffler, new style endcap, AreaP/dynojet kit
duggram - 250 - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
rasta - 250 - I'm in the the 18" system, standard mount
dave42 - 250 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
guambra2001 - 300 - standard mount, carbon fiber, standard length, with the new end cap
EsrTek - 300 - Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler ***2 WEEK GRACE***
higear223 - 250 - Full standard 12" stainless muffler system with new conical end cap, AreaP/Dynojet kit 2193R, Hangar bracket
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 08:53 PM   #90
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Thanks Alex. Please put me down for the standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit for the 08+ 250.

I am still interested in knowing whether the 12" or 18" offers trackable gains compared to each other. However much I may like the look of the 12", I'm thinking loudness may be a factor for me and I have learned to err on the side of caution unless someone can convince me otherwise, say benefits of a shorter exhaust while 2-up...
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 10:20 PM   #91
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Aaron, I notice you're in Lawton. You Field Artillery? I was a 13B, went through OSUT at Sill.
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Thanks Alex. Please put me down for the standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit for the 08+ 250.

I am still interested in knowing whether the 12" or 18" offers trackable gains compared to each other. However much I may like the look of the 12", I'm thinking loudness may be a factor for me and I have learned to err on the side of caution unless someone can convince me otherwise, say benefits of a shorter exhaust while 2-up...
IIRC the 18" makes slightly more power. The 12" is loud as balls, you can hear that thing a minute before it arrives.

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Sargent, no I'm a regular civvie; a design drafter for a manufacturing company... Have a lot of friends in service though some of which are still at ft sill. I'm typically on base 1-2 times a week ironically... Kinda funny too since I've grown up in Lawton I can vaguely remember when it was still mostly just a field artillery training base... Ohh how times change.

Thanks Trailerboy513! I feel better about going with the quiet core now as I would like it louder but not loud to where I will have any po-po waiting for me.
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I would have done that but.... I can't edit Kerry's post.
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I didn't miss him, just giving him time to decide what he wanted.

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Thanks Alex. Please put me down for the standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit for the 08+ 250.

I am still interested in knowing whether the 12" or 18" offers trackable gains compared to each other. However much I may like the look of the 12", I'm thinking loudness may be a factor for me and I have learned to err on the side of caution unless someone can convince me otherwise, say benefits of a shorter exhaust while 2-up...
I got you on the list, if you decide on the 12 or 18, lemme know and I will happily update again. Kerry will need to know which you want to get your order accurate.

Updated:

Floki - 250 - 18" CF street system with the conical end, with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
BlackBetty - 250 - full race system, 18" carbon muffler, new style endcap, AreaP/dynojet kit
duggram - 250 - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
rasta - 250 - I'm in the the 18" system, standard mount
dave42 - 250 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
guambra2001 - 300 - standard mount, carbon fiber, standard length, with the new end cap
EsrTek - 300 - Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler ***2 WEEK GRACE***
higear223 - 250 - Full standard 12" stainless muffler system with new conical end cap, AreaP/Dynojet kit 2193R, Hangar bracket
Daniel_Malloy - 250 - standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit
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^ we just need one more, unless I counted wrong.
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And here's your one more.. Please add me for the 12" cf race exhaust with the conical end cap and Dynojet kit 2193R
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I am still interested in knowing whether the 12" or 18" offers trackable gains compared to each other. However much I may like the look of the 12", I'm thinking loudness may be a factor for me and I have learned to err on the side of caution unless someone can convince me otherwise, say benefits of a shorter exhaust while 2-up...
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With the STANDARD MOUNT 250r system - The performance is virtually identical with the standard muffler (12") and long quiet muffler (18"). The primary difference is of course the sound level (18" long quiet core is significantly quieter. See our website page for data).

With the HIGH MOUNT RACE 250r system - The 18" muffler will increase peak hp by .6, as well as being quieter than the 12" version (which in the High Mount Race 250r system it really barks...).

It is important to not confuse the muffler lengths and/or performance data between the two completely different systems and tuning platforms. When making comparisons, you need to be sure which system is being discussed.

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Old April 23rd, 2014, 06:25 AM   #100
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And here's your one more.. Please add me for the 12" cf race exhaust with the conical end cap and Dynojet kit 2193R
Gotcha!

Floki - 250 - 18" CF street system with the conical end, with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
BlackBetty - 250 - full race system, 18" carbon muffler, new style endcap, AreaP/dynojet kit
duggram - 250 - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
rasta - 250 - I'm in the the 18" system, standard mount
dave42 - 250 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
guambra2001 - 300 - standard mount, carbon fiber, standard length, with the new end cap
EsrTek - 300 - Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler ***2 WEEK GRACE***
higear223 - 250 - Full standard 12" stainless muffler system with new conical end cap, AreaP/Dynojet kit 2193R, Hangar bracket
Daniel_Malloy - 250 - standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit
Rheno911 - 250 - 12" cf race exhaust with the conical end cap and Dynojet kit 2193R
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I've been debating on an exhaust for a while and this made it much easier

250 - Standard Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Carbon Fiber Muffler with conical end and Dynojet Kit # 2193, Stage 2
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Welcome Andy!

Updated:
  1. Floki - 250 - 18" CF street system with the conical end, with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
  2. BlackBetty - 250 - full race system, 18" carbon muffler, new style endcap, AreaP/dynojet kit
  3. duggram - 250 - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
  4. rasta - 250 - I'm in the the 18" system, standard mount
  5. dave42 - 250 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
  6. guambra2001 - 300 - standard mount, carbon fiber, standard length, with the new end cap
  7. EsrTek - 300 - Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler ***2 WEEK GRACE***
  8. higear223 - 250 - Full standard 12" stainless muffler system with new conical end cap, AreaP/Dynojet kit 2193R, Hangar bracket
  9. Daniel_Malloy - 250 - standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit
  10. Rheno911 - 250 - 12" cf race exhaust with the conical end cap and Dynojet kit 2193R
  11. Fehrain - 250 - Standard Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Carbon Fiber Muffler with conical end and Dynojet Kit # 2193, Stage 2

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@csmith12 I hate to do this to you all but I need to use the funds for something else. Please take me off the list, will let you know of situation changes. Thank you
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Yes sir, no problem!

Updated:
  1. Floki - 250 - 18" CF street system with the conical end, with the dynojet kit that's 94.95.
  2. BlackBetty - 250 - full race system, 18" carbon muffler, new style endcap, AreaP/dynojet kit
  3. duggram - 250 - AreaP Spec Built Exhaust Port Gaskets (pair), Customized AreaP/Dynojet Kit, Full stainless steel system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
  4. rasta - 250 - I'm in the the 18" system, standard mount
  5. dave42 - 250 - looking to get a standard mount full system for our 250 with the 12" carbon fiber muffler and the 2193 kit.
  6. EsrTek - 300 - Area P Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler ***2 WEEK GRACE***
  7. higear223 - 250 - Full standard 12" stainless muffler system with new conical end cap, AreaP/Dynojet kit 2193R, Hangar bracket
  8. Daniel_Malloy - 250 - standard mount Quiet core carbon fiber system with the new head style and the AreaP dynojet kit
  9. Rheno911 - 250 - 12" cf race exhaust with the conical end cap and Dynojet kit 2193R
  10. Fehrain - 250 - Standard Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Carbon Fiber Muffler with conical end and Dynojet Kit # 2193, Stage 2
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Your bike could actually run worse than stock if you don't have a tune to go with the new exhaust.
I knew that was true w/ carbs...was under impression FI was more alright to do.
I'll probably just get exhaust, and wait till I can buy the Fuel Moto kit, then install it all.

*need to go research and find out if I need the fuel moto device, if I plan on having ecu flashed*
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I knew that was true w/ carbs...was under impression FI was more alright to do.
I'll probably just get exhaust, and wait till I can buy the Fuel Moto kit, then install it all.

*need to go research and find out if I need the fuel moto device, if I plan on having ecu flashed*
If you're short on $$$ you'd be better off buying the tuner first and getting the exhaust later.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 04:23 PM   #111
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I'm good, just don't want to commit to the purchase until I do my research (just not enough time yet). I may still add it before GB ends.
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I'm good, just don't want to commit to the purchase until I do my research (just not enough time yet). I may still add it before GB ends.
Hold up... you're already one the list with a 2 week extension/grace???? hmmmmmm
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@EsrTek You don't want to install the exhaust without the tuner, it will cause your bike to run lean and decrease performance. You could always get the exhaust and put it on at a later time though, and save some $$$ in the end.

That being said, even a bike with the stock exhaust will benefit from having a tuner installed. While not making a big increase in power it will give some benefit. AreaP has a tune for the stock exhaust, and you can always change the tune at a later time when you get a new exhaust.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 05:03 PM   #114
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Hold up... you're already one the list with a 2 week extension/grace???? hmmmmmm
I meant to the extra $250 for the Fuel device..

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@EsrTek You don't want to install the exhaust without the tuner, it will cause your bike to run lean and decrease performance. You could always get the exhaust and put it on at a later time though, and save some $$$ in the end.

That being said, even a bike with the stock exhaust will benefit from having a tuner installed. While not making a big increase in power it will give some benefit. AreaP has a tune for the stock exhaust, and you can always change the tune at a later time when you get a new exhaust.
Yes, never planned on installing the exhaust until I knew if I was going fuel moto route or ecu flash. I'll be sittin in house a few weeks, if not till winter.
I'm just getting in on the savings of something I planned to buy anyway
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Old April 24th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #115
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can we get a larger discount if we get that number to 20?
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Old April 24th, 2014, 08:20 PM   #116
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I'm good, just don't want to commit to the purchase until I do my research (just not enough time yet). I may still add it before GB ends.
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Quite honestly, if you could only afford one or the other, I would recommend the Micro Programmer, and our Map for the stock exhaust. Then later on, if you choose to purchase the exhaust, we can simply send you another Map that will work well with the addition of the new exhaust.

The stock A/F curve leaves alot of room for improvement. We gain power and more importantly, improved throttle response with our Mapping and the stock exhaust in place. If you install one of our full systems, without the programmer and one our Maps, the performance increase and throttle response will simply not be there. And frankly, it will perform poorly. It is pointless to design a performance exhaust system and not adjust the A/F Mapping to maximize the increased capablilities that are now available. This is precisely what almost every other exhaust system manufacture did when the 300 came out. They all designed exhaust products and did absolutely nothing to address the Mapping which was in need of adjustment (again, even with the stock exhaust). We on the other hand, were probably one of the last companies to finish up our R&D and Production program. We did this because exhaust development, especially on FI equipped models, must go hand in hand. Otherwise, you are compromising the design. You can only know how good your design is, by giving every single prototype the benefit of the doubt; which means Mapping the A/F to perform it's best with each and every prototype. Only then, can you determine if the exhaust system design is meeting the goals set-forth by your R&D program.

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Can someone please tell me the difference between the two dynojet kits (in lehman's terms)?
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Can someone please tell me the difference between the two dynojet kits (in lehman's terms)?
Air is the BIG difference. Basically, you will need the kit with the larger jets if the airbox is to be removed and pods put on.

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So...if I have no intent to race, the 2193 kit will be fine?
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Yes sir, but every bike is slightly different when it comes to jetting. The selection of jets/clip positions in the kit should be enough to dial your jetting in.

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