250 cc World Championship

minuslars · November 8th, 2009, 03:06 PM

Anyone else watching? on the Speed channel RIGHT NOW

dive1tom · November 8th, 2009, 03:37 PM

i am, they are high on Marco Simoncelli

dive1tom · November 8th, 2009, 03:40 PM

Where can you buy a (Honda) KTM 250?

minuslars · November 8th, 2009, 03:44 PM

KTM and Honda are separate bike manufacturers, aren't they? You'd probably have to import, I have no idea where to get them from.

Alex · November 8th, 2009, 06:09 PM

Those 250's are prototypes, and cannot be purchased, even by the teams themselves. They are typically leased from the factory for the year, at a cost somewhere between $500K and $1M per bike per year. Can anyone spare some change for me?

HKr1 · November 8th, 2009, 06:42 PM

That was a good race!

Too bad the 250cc's are gone now

camaroz1985 · November 8th, 2009, 06:58 PM

Hopefully Moto2 isn't a let down. I think it will be pretty interesting.

karlosdajackal · November 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM

Cost of renting a factory Aprilla 250cc for the year £650,000
Cost of buying a moto2 spec bike for the year £75,000

Aprilla killed the 250gp class with there pricing, plus the bikes where no longer road relevant any more (2 strokes).

Moto2 will be all about the chassis builders. Great article in current issue of visordown magazine (has a er-6f on the cover) about the chassis designers and how they are trying to gain advantages
* swing arm spools on inside of swingarm instead of outside to reduce drag
* have to use standard engines airbox but manufacturing the steering head in such a way as to get as much air as possible into that airbox
* new radiator technology to be able to use a smaller rad to reduce drag
* and lots of other small things aimed at making sure their bike with the same engine as all the other bikes can go 2kph faster down the straights

Should be a very competitive grid with lots of teams.

HKr1 · November 9th, 2009, 06:04 AM

Dont think I will be watching........ Also let my tickets go because of it.

mikedabike64 · November 9th, 2009, 07:38 AM

are they going to keep gp 125s ? , that is so fun to watch, like racing bumble bees

mikedabike64 · November 9th, 2009, 07:45 AM

I also wonder if a hopped up 250 4 stroke prototype chasis could hang with the 125s I know a 250 out of the box could not. just like they let 1000 cc bikes race with the 500cc 2 strokes

karlosdajackal · November 9th, 2009, 08:34 AM

125 will stay another year,

talk is of replacing them (125) with single cylinder 4 stroke 450cc bikes. KTM have built and tested a beautiful example using a 250gp chassis called the RC4, can't find online pics of it but in the magazines it looks amazing.

camaroz1985 · November 9th, 2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karlosdajackal

125 will stay another year,

talk is of replacing them (125) with single cylinder 4 stroke 450cc bikes. KTM have built and tested a beautiful example using a 250gp chassis called the RC4, can't find online pics of it but in the magazines it looks amazing.

Then sell street versions too

sharky nrk · November 9th, 2009, 10:31 AM

^^ indeed

I for one am looking forward to Moto2 - the 250GP was awesome because of its super competetive nature but the bikes themselves are, as was mentioned, "irrelevent"

karlosdajackal · November 9th, 2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

^^ indeed

I for one am looking forward to Moto2 - the 250GP was awesome because of its super competetive nature but the bikes themselves are, as was mentioned, "irrelevent"

well all the 250gp bikes were all the same, the aprilla was sold under the name derbi and gillera. Only other bikes were that ktm, and aoyama's old honda, both of those chassis where built but a crew that will be taking part in moto2.

November 8th, 2009, 03:06 PM	#1
minuslars ninjette.org member Name: Arthur Location: NoVA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '03 EX250 Posts: 134	250 cc World Championship Anyone else watching? on the Speed channel RIGHT NOW

November 8th, 2009, 06:09 PM	#5
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Those 250's are prototypes, and cannot be purchased, even by the teams themselves. They are typically leased from the factory for the year, at a cost somewhere between $500K and $1M per bike per year. Can anyone spare some change for me? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

November 9th, 2009, 02:33 AM	#8
karlosdajackal ninjette.org guru Name: Karl Location: Ireland the Hawaii of Europe! Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Fuel Injected Model 2009 Posts: 357	Cost of renting a factory Aprilla 250cc for the year £650,000 Cost of buying a moto2 spec bike for the year £75,000 Aprilla killed the 250gp class with there pricing, plus the bikes where no longer road relevant any more (2 strokes). Moto2 will be all about the chassis builders. Great article in current issue of visordown magazine (has a er-6f on the cover) about the chassis designers and how they are trying to gain advantages * swing arm spools on inside of swingarm instead of outside to reduce drag * have to use standard engines airbox but manufacturing the steering head in such a way as to get as much air as possible into that airbox * new radiator technology to be able to use a smaller rad to reduce drag * and lots of other small things aimed at making sure their bike with the same engine as all the other bikes can go 2kph faster down the straights Should be a very competitive grid with lots of teams. __________________________________________________ My vlogs on Youtube are here

November 9th, 2009, 08:34 AM	#12
karlosdajackal ninjette.org guru Name: Karl Location: Ireland the Hawaii of Europe! Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Fuel Injected Model 2009 Posts: 357	125 will stay another year, talk is of replacing them (125) with single cylinder 4 stroke 450cc bikes. KTM have built and tested a beautiful example using a 250gp chassis called the RC4, can't find online pics of it but in the magazines it looks amazing. __________________________________________________ My vlogs on Youtube are here

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November 8th, 2009, 03:37 PM	#2
dive1tom ninjette.org member Name: Tom Location: Tennessee Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 23	i am, they are high on Marco Simoncelli

November 8th, 2009, 03:40 PM	#3
dive1tom ninjette.org member Name: Tom Location: Tennessee Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 23	Where can you buy a (Honda) KTM 250?

November 8th, 2009, 03:44 PM	#4
minuslars ninjette.org member Name: Arthur Location: NoVA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '03 EX250 Posts: 134	KTM and Honda are separate bike manufacturers, aren't they? You'd probably have to import, I have no idea where to get them from.

November 8th, 2009, 06:42 PM	#6
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	That was a good race! Too bad the 250cc's are gone now

November 8th, 2009, 06:58 PM	#7
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Hopefully Moto2 isn't a let down. I think it will be pretty interesting.

November 9th, 2009, 06:04 AM	#9
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Dont think I will be watching........ Also let my tickets go because of it.

November 9th, 2009, 07:38 AM	#10
mikedabike64 ninjette.org guru Name: mike Location: jackson, nj Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 ninja 250 Posts: 271	are they going to keep gp 125s ? , that is so fun to watch, like racing bumble bees

November 9th, 2009, 07:45 AM	#11
mikedabike64 ninjette.org guru Name: mike Location: jackson, nj Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 ninja 250 Posts: 271	I also wonder if a hopped up 250 4 stroke prototype chasis could hang with the 125s I know a 250 out of the box could not. just like they let 1000 cc bikes race with the 500cc 2 strokes

November 9th, 2009, 10:31 AM	#14
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	^^ indeed I for one am looking forward to Moto2 - the 250GP was awesome because of its super competetive nature but the bikes themselves are, as was mentioned, "irrelevent"