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May 28th, 2012, 04:06 PM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Robert
Location: Yuma AZ
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Red/Black Ninja 250 Posts: 9
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Lee Park's Total Control
So I just took Lee Park's Total Control Clinic Level 1 and 2 earlier this month. And then last week I took the MSF Advanced Rider Course - with Sport bike Techniques.
And I can tell you right now, the Lee Parks was AMAZING. I learned so much about body positioning, suspension setup, and I got SO much more confidence in leaning. Comparatively, the MSF Advanced Rider Course seemed like a too-politically correct waste of time, and I learned close to nothing that wasn't already taught in Lee Parks. In the Lee Parks things like "Hanging off" the bike is encouraged and taught correctly, and they tell you why and how it works. In the MSF "Hanging Off" is discouraged because "It attracts law enforcement, and you're not a boy racer." Line selection and decreasing radius turns are also focused on in the Lee Parks, whereas only touched upon in the MSF course. Emergency techniques were also more in-depth. I got to take all 3 courses because i'm active duty millitary (USA) and It's required, and free  Some pictures from the Lee Park's Total Control Clinic Level 2 |
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May 28th, 2012, 05:07 PM
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Pretty sweet, I hope to take something like this at one point.
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May 28th, 2012, 05:19 PM
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ninjette.org sage
Name: David
Location: Loves Park, IL
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Time will tell Posts: 969
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Interesting! MSF here never taught us to hang off or drop a knee, nothing in the test required it. Actually, the one time they did tell us to slide a butt-cheek off is for the figure 8's, it makes it easier to counterweight the bike.
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May 28th, 2012, 05:22 PM
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ninjette.org newbie
Name: Robert
Location: Yuma AZ
Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Red/Black Ninja 250 Posts: 9
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May 28th, 2012, 05:24 PM
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ninjette.org sage
Name: David
Location: Loves Park, IL
Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Time will tell Posts: 969
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May 28th, 2012, 07:56 PM
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ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much.
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/moved to riding skills
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May 29th, 2012, 08:23 AM
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ninjette.org member
Name: ADAM
Location: fort campbell, ky
Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R Posts: 112
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MSF teaches you to lean forward and in on its sportbike course. This leaves you with a little more lean angle in reserve accessible by sliding your ass off the seat.
basic course not teaching advanced riding techniques? WHAT????lol.... In anycase the MSF sportbike course teaches NEW/ignorant/or uneducated sportbike riders basic sportriding techniques. It also gives good practice with more experienced riders. The next step up before a track day or school is the total control class... |
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May 29th, 2012, 08:40 AM
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ninjette.org guru
Name: Toly
Location: NY
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Finally... someone admits MSF is not the best thing since sliced bread!
 Lee Parks is great, but U need lots of practice on your own... Congrats! |
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May 29th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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ninjette.org member
Name: ADAM
Location: fort campbell, ky
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)Its all stages of learning. Also the original MSF sportbike course strongly resembled the total control class. It is my understanding that some lawsuits changed the MSF course to the hollow shell it has become. |
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