Ninja 300 US MSRP history?

CZroe · October 9th, 2014, 06:05 AM

Kawi no longer has the "view previous year model" link and it never worked with all years /models anyway, so I want to make a record of the MSRPs here.

As I recall, the CA bikes have no MSRP, so lets just assume that it always cost at least as much as the standard 49-state models.

2013
Standard $4,799
Special Edition $4,999
ABS Special Edition $5,499

2014
Standard $4,999
Special Edition $5,199
ABS $5,299
ABS Special Edition $5,499

Source: Is this correct?
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/20...nja/prices/05/
Says "N/A" for "destination" fees

2015
ABS $5,299 + $1,000 "destination charge" junk fee
Special Edition $5,199 + $1,000 "destination charge" junk fee

Edit:
Pastebin of my documented and sourced MSRP history so far including older Ninjettes. Some of those pages were very hard to find links to thanks to Kawasaki's "Sport" page not working on WayBackMachine, so I figure they should be documented somewhere.

2015 Ninja 300 ABS $5,299 (SE not available)
Lime Green, Pearl Stardust White

2015 Ninja 300 SE $5,199 (Standard not available)
Metallic Moondust Gray / Ebony

2014 Ninja 300 ABS $5,299 (Standard) to $5,499 (SE)
Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics, Pearl Stardust White / Ebony

2014 Ninja 300 $4,999 (Standard) to $5,199 (SE)
Pearl Stardust White, Lime Green/Ebony,
Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics, Pearl Stardust White / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics

2013 Ninja 300 ABS SE $5,499 (Standard not available)
Lime Green/Ebony SE

2013 Ninja 300 $4,799 (Standard) to $4,999 (SE)
Pearl Stardust White, Lime Green/Ebony, Ebony

2012 Ninja 250 $4,199 (Standard) to $4,449 (SE)
Candy Lime Green, Metallic Spark Black, Passion Red/Metallic Spark Black

2011 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,249 (SE)
Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony (SE), Pearl White / Ebony (SE)

2010 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,199 (SE)
Metallic Island Blue, Passion Red, Lime Green/Pearl Stardust White, Ebony/Candy Persimmon Red

2009 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,099 (SE)
Metallic Diablo Black, Sunbeam Red, Candy Thunder Blue, Special Edition Lime Green / Metallic Diablo Black

2008 Ninja 250 $3,499
Lime Green, Ebony, Passion Red, Candy Plasma Blue

2007 Ninja 250 $2,999
Candy Persimmon Red, Metallic Phantom Silver, Ebony, Candy Plasma Blue

2006 Ninja 250 $2,999
Candy Persimmon Red, Ebony, Candy Thunder Blue, Bright Yellow

2005 Ninja 250 $2,999
Metallic Nocturne Blue/ Galaxy Silver, Ebony / Galaxy Silver, Galaxy Silver / Ebony

2004 Ninja 250 $2,999
Metallic Nocturne Blue/Pearl Chateau Gray, Galaxy Silver/Ebony, Pearl Chrome Yellow/Pearl Chateau Gray

2003 Ninja 250 $2,999
Metallic Sonic Blue/Ebony, Lime Green/Ebony, Pearl Chrome Yellow/Metallic Violet Royal

Byakkotai · October 9th, 2014, 07:50 AM

Whoa! What's up this $1K destination charge thingy on the 2015s?

2013
Standard - $4799
SE Non-ABS - $4999
SE ABS - $5499

If I remember correctly...can't remember if there was destination charge on it but it may have been $300.

CZroe · October 9th, 2014, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byakkotai

Whoa! What's up this $1K destination charge thingy on the 2015s?

2013
Standard - $4799
SE Non-ABS - $4999
SE ABS - $5499

If I remember correctly...can't remember if there was destination charge on it but it may have been $300.

Thanks. IDK about that destination charge, but I'd tell a dealer that they are crazy if they think I am paying that.

CZroe · October 9th, 2014, 11:10 AM

If anyone can find links to Kawi's old product pages, those would be awesome. Thanks!

InvisiBill · October 9th, 2014, 11:40 AM

It looks like the old pages are gone with the site redesign. I didn't check everything, but at least some of them are saved in the Wayback Machine.

2014 300
2014 300 SE
2014 300 ABS
2014 300 ABS SE

Maybe someone else can pull other URLs out of their browser/address history...

CZroe · December 15th, 2014, 09:58 AM

Just an update: That "Destination Charge" has dropped to $345, and that doesn't seem to be an adjustment for their cheaper bikes: Even their $50K Ninja H2R says $345!

That must have been a big mistake when they had it listed as $1,000. I wonder what they were thinking?

Bubba · January 9th, 2015, 11:31 AM

forget MSRP for 2015. Kawa now has the oldest bike with the higher price from Honda and the new R3.

The R3 MSRP is $4999, which will pressure Kawa dealers. Although to be fair, Yamaha for some stupid reason took ABS off of North American market bikes. This makes then the only 300ish bike without ABS option.

alex.s · January 9th, 2015, 11:46 AM

shipping from japan for my bike cost my dealer just over $275 if i remember right. i think the guy said it takes them about a month to arrive after they order them. the $1000 "destination fee" covers unpacking from the crate, filling with fluids, attaching things like mirrors, battery. typically new bike setup will take a mech about an hour to do with maybe $50 in parts cost. the rest is negotiation room for the dealer so they can make more money on suckers.

CZroe · January 10th, 2015, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba

forget MSRP for 2015. Kawa now has the oldest bike with the higher price from Honda and the new R3.

The R3 MSRP is $4999, which will pressure Kawa dealers. Although to be fair, Yamaha for some stupid reason took ABS off of North American market bikes. This makes then the only 300ish bike without ABS option.

When the same dealer also sells Yamaha and Honda and they find out you aren't willing to pay more than the Kawi's competition, they will simply steer you to the Kawi's competition. It is higher margin for them than cutting into the Kawi's MSRP to match.

CZroe · January 10th, 2015, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

shipping from japan for my bike cost my dealer just over $275 if i remember right. i think the guy said it takes them about a month to arrive after they order them. the $1000 "destination fee" covers unpacking from the crate, filling with fluids, attaching things like mirrors, battery. typically new bike setup will take a mech about an hour to do with maybe $50 in parts cost. the rest is negotiation room for the dealer so they can make more money on suckers.

Most every other product has the cost of shipping and distribution/transportation included in the retail price. I asked a dealer to just give it to me in the crate and they agreed but when I got there they told me there was a miscommunication and I owed them $200 for setup. I drove five states for that bike, so they knew they had me over a barrel there.

Oh! And these ship from Thailand, BTW.

eddiekay · January 10th, 2015, 08:59 AM

Last time i checked a container was about $4k from...someplace in China to Long Beach CA.
CA to ? AZ is not much less than CA to NY or FL. The money is spent on the final drop. It costs the dealer as much to bring the bike 75 miles as it does for Kawi to ship it 7500 miles.

Bubba · January 12th, 2015, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

When the same dealer also sells Yamaha and Honda and they find out you aren't willing to pay more than the Kawi's competition, they will simply steer you to the Kawi's competition. It is higher margin for them than cutting into the Kawi's MSRP to match.

Sure, but who pays MSRP anyway?

October 9th, 2014, 06:05 AM	#1
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Ninja 300 US MSRP history? Kawi no longer has the "view previous year model" link and it never worked with all years /models anyway, so I want to make a record of the MSRPs here. As I recall, the CA bikes have no MSRP, so lets just assume that it always cost at least as much as the standard 49-state models. 2013 Standard $4,799 Special Edition $4,999 ABS Special Edition $5,499 2014 Standard $4,999 Special Edition $5,199 ABS $5,299 ABS Special Edition $5,499 Source: Is this correct? http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/20...nja/prices/05/ Says "N/A" for "destination" fees 2015 ABS $5,299 + $1,000 "destination charge" junk fee Special Edition $5,199 + $1,000 "destination charge" junk fee Edit: Pastebin of my documented and sourced MSRP history so far including older Ninjettes. Some of those pages were very hard to find links to thanks to Kawasaki's "Sport" page not working on WayBackMachine, so I figure they should be documented somewhere. 2015 Ninja 300 ABS $5,299 (SE not available) Lime Green, Pearl Stardust White 2015 Ninja 300 SE $5,199 (Standard not available) Metallic Moondust Gray / Ebony 2014 Ninja 300 ABS $5,299 (Standard) to $5,499 (SE) Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics, Pearl Stardust White / Ebony 2014 Ninja 300 $4,999 (Standard) to $5,199 (SE) Pearl Stardust White, Lime Green/Ebony, Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics, Pearl Stardust White / Ebony with Special Edition Graphics 2013 Ninja 300 ABS SE $5,499 (Standard not available) Lime Green/Ebony SE 2013 Ninja 300 $4,799 (Standard) to $4,999 (SE) Pearl Stardust White, Lime Green/Ebony, Ebony 2012 Ninja 250 $4,199 (Standard) to $4,449 (SE) Candy Lime Green, Metallic Spark Black, Passion Red/Metallic Spark Black 2011 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,249 (SE) Ebony, Lime Green / Ebony (SE), Pearl White / Ebony (SE) 2010 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,199 (SE) Metallic Island Blue, Passion Red, Lime Green/Pearl Stardust White, Ebony/Candy Persimmon Red 2009 Ninja 250 $3,999 (Standard) to $4,099 (SE) Metallic Diablo Black, Sunbeam Red, Candy Thunder Blue, Special Edition Lime Green / Metallic Diablo Black 2008 Ninja 250 $3,499 Lime Green, Ebony, Passion Red, Candy Plasma Blue 2007 Ninja 250 $2,999 Candy Persimmon Red, Metallic Phantom Silver, Ebony, Candy Plasma Blue 2006 Ninja 250 $2,999 Candy Persimmon Red, Ebony, Candy Thunder Blue, Bright Yellow 2005 Ninja 250 $2,999 Metallic Nocturne Blue/ Galaxy Silver, Ebony / Galaxy Silver, Galaxy Silver / Ebony 2004 Ninja 250 $2,999 Metallic Nocturne Blue/Pearl Chateau Gray, Galaxy Silver/Ebony, Pearl Chrome Yellow/Pearl Chateau Gray 2003 Ninja 250 $2,999 Metallic Sonic Blue/Ebony, Lime Green/Ebony, Pearl Chrome Yellow/Metallic Violet Royal Last futzed with by CZroe; October 10th, 2014 at 02:21 PM.

October 9th, 2014, 11:40 AM	#5
InvisiBill EX500 full of EX250 parts Name: Bill Location: Grand Rapids-ish, MI Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '18 Ninja 400 • '09 Ninja 500R (selling) • '98 VFR800 (project) • '85 Vulcan VN700 (sold) Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Aug '15	It looks like the old pages are gone with the site redesign. I didn't check everything, but at least some of them are saved in the Wayback Machine. 2014 300 2014 300 SE 2014 300 ABS 2014 300 ABS SE Maybe someone else can pull other URLs out of their browser/address history... __________________________________________________ * Unregistered, I'm not your mom and I'm not paying for your parts, so do whatever you want with your own bike. *
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January 9th, 2015, 11:46 AM	#8
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	shipping from japan for my bike cost my dealer just over $275 if i remember right. i think the guy said it takes them about a month to arrive after they order them. the $1000 "destination fee" covers unpacking from the crate, filling with fluids, attaching things like mirrors, battery. typically new bike setup will take a mech about an hour to do with maybe $50 in parts cost. the rest is negotiation room for the dealer so they can make more money on suckers. __________________________________________________
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Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	Whoa! What's up this $1K destination charge thingy on the 2015s? 2013 Standard - $4799 SE Non-ABS - $4999 SE ABS - $5499 If I remember correctly...can't remember if there was destination charge on it but it may have been $300.

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CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	If anyone can find links to Kawi's old product pages, those would be awesome. Thanks!

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CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Just an update: That "Destination Charge" has dropped to $345, and that doesn't seem to be an adjustment for their cheaper bikes: Even their $50K Ninja H2R says $345! That must have been a big mistake when they had it listed as $1,000. I wonder what they were thinking?

January 9th, 2015, 11:31 AM	#7
Bubba ninjette.org member Name: Bubba Location: Hamilton, Canada Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: 99	forget MSRP for 2015. Kawa now has the oldest bike with the higher price from Honda and the new R3. The R3 MSRP is $4999, which will pressure Kawa dealers. Although to be fair, Yamaha for some stupid reason took ABS off of North American market bikes. This makes then the only 300ish bike without ABS option.

January 10th, 2015, 08:59 AM	#11
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	Last time i checked a container was about $4k from...someplace in China to Long Beach CA. CA to ? AZ is not much less than CA to NY or FL. The money is spent on the final drop. It costs the dealer as much to bring the bike 75 miles as it does for Kawi to ship it 7500 miles.