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View Poll Results: Which option should I choose? | |||
2009 Ninjette | 14 | 73.68% | |
2005 Ninjette | 2 | 10.53% | |
Fix your car if possible. | 3 | 15.79% | |
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll |
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February 12th, 2009, 10:33 AM | #1 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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Need opinion in a hurry!
Hi everyone. I'm torn about a decision, and I could use the help of the forum.
It's been years since I've ridden (I'm 45 and I sold my tiny Honda Rebel about 18 years ago). After looking and looking, I have decided that a Ninja 250 is just the ticket to get back into riding. However, I am faced with a dilemma. Money is, of course, tight right now, so I have two options. 1) Used 2005 Ninjette. Looks like it was dumped once at low speed. A little oxidation up on either side of the handles by the starter and clutch. Not bad looking. After tax and docs, etc., and with needed riding gear, around $3600. Positives - cost Negatives - Don't know problems may be getting (buying from dealer, though), no warranty. 2) Brand new 2009 Ninjette - cost after bike and gear, around $5600 or so. I would, of course, prefer the new one, but we're talking $2000 difference when all is said and done. Positives - Warranty, changes made in 2008, brand new, looks awesome. Negatives - Cost, cost, and cost. My question is this: Are the changes to the 2009 worth putting the extra $2000 on the line, or would the used bike be your preference? I've been batting this around in my brain for days now, and my wife and I can't seem to come to any agreement. Thus, I am asking Ninjette riders for your experienced opinions. Your help would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to try to buy today or tomorrow, as my car died recently and I need transportation. |
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February 12th, 2009, 10:43 AM | #2 |
ninjette.org sage
Name: Tim
Location: Portland, OR
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 796
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I voted 2009 - but what are the prices of the actual bikes without factoring in the gear? Cause then depending on the price of the 05 and the condition it's in, it might not be worth it anyways. Plus, if I hadn't been riding in awhile, I know I would want something similar to as if I was picking up my first bike - something that's reliable so you can enjoy the ride rather than have to worry about mechanical problems.
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February 12th, 2009, 10:46 AM | #3 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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Actual prices: 2009 - $5100 O.T.D. 2005 - $3100 O.T.D. (The 2005 may be negotiable by $100 or so. The 2009 is not.)
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February 12th, 2009, 10:58 AM | #4 |
ninjette.org dude
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Location: SF Bay Area
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Way too high a price for the 2005. Keep looking on craigslist and you'll find one in pristine condition for a little less than that price, and one in similar condition closer to $2K instead of $3K.
But I'd find a deal on a '09 anyway.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:01 AM | #5 |
So slow I'm first!
Name: Sunny
Location: San Jose, CA
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Though it is still a good idea to fix your car I voted for the 09. I did this because as someone stated earlier it is a peace of mind with the repairs as well as the fact that it would now be your transportation. You can websearch a lot of the gear and possibly find it cheaper than at a dealership.
Welcome back to the wonderful world of motorcycling.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:02 AM | #6 |
IC2(SW)
Name: Kerry
Location: Pensacola
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Fix car, Then save for a 08-09 250r
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February 12th, 2009, 11:05 AM | #7 |
So slow I'm first!
Name: Sunny
Location: San Jose, CA
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How much to fix the car?
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February 12th, 2009, 11:06 AM | #8 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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How much?
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February 12th, 2009, 11:06 AM | #9 |
IC2(SW)
Name: Kerry
Location: Pensacola
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:08 AM | #10 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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the car
Not sure. There are a variety of problems that need work, but the most recent issues involve the driver side window making a lot of noise and ... the car now seems to be having electrical issues. I don't think it's the battery. I think it may be something more severe. I haven't brought it to the shop yet. If I buy a bike I may donate the car. It's a 1995 Saturn SC2 that I've had for 10 years. It's been costing me around $600+ a year for general repairs.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:09 AM | #11 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Ryan
Location: Carlisle, PA
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.
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The 05 is more than they were new! I would probably look around for a cheaper first gen and fix your car, so I didn't vote.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:10 AM | #12 |
VooDooMaster
Name: Dave
Location: tucson
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Blue EX250, 2007 Yamaha Virago 250 Posts: 173
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2009? Why not look for a 2008? You still get the great new design and will save a chunk of cash to boot. Here in Tucson, I bought a 2008 model Ninja 250 and saved $2800 bucks over buying a new 2009. And...the insurnace was not as high on a "used" vs. a "new" bike.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:10 AM | #13 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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If I get a bike, I probably won't fix the car. I don't want to pay insurance on both.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:11 AM | #14 | |
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Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
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I bought a used '08 that was 2 months old, in absolutely perfect condition with 1000 miles on it for $4K total. I'd keep looking for a dealer that would find you an '09 in the color you want in the $4700ish range OTD max. But seeing how you need transportation ASAP, you're not in a great bargaining situation, and you may not have time on your side.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:12 AM | #15 | |
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Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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New vs. Used
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February 12th, 2009, 11:12 AM | #16 |
ninjette.org dude
Name: 1 guess :-)
Location: SF Bay Area
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Do you have another car in the household? I can't imagine making do with a bike alone (grocery shopping, getting somewhere when it's pouring and all you want to do is get there rather than have fun on the way). But I know some people do it.
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February 12th, 2009, 11:15 AM | #17 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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Alex,
Yes, we have a 2006 Civic. I wouldn't buy the bike if I didn't have other transportation. We just bought a house with a two car garage. That covers my Civic and my son's Mazda3. However, the HOA says that you can't park on the street of our subdivision, so the third car has to be parked across the street from the subdivision by a gas station. I'm worried that if I keep parking there, the car will be gone. That's another reason we're looking at a bike. I could park it in the garage. |
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February 12th, 2009, 11:19 AM | #18 |
So slow I'm first!
Name: Sunny
Location: San Jose, CA
Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 06 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Posts: A lot.
Blog Entries: 10
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Tough HOA
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February 12th, 2009, 11:21 AM | #19 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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You ain't kiddin'!
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February 12th, 2009, 11:25 AM | #20 |
Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.
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If you are set on a bike, charge your son rent, then use the money to finance a new bike. That or wait till for a good deal on a used bike comes along. owning a bike is not as cheap as it sounds on paper. I can't see where this is a good idea if you're trying to save money.
You could buy a pretty nice used car for the price of a new bike and gear. parking problem seems to be your son's, not yours. |
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February 12th, 2009, 11:29 AM | #21 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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Already charge him rent. He pays his share, that's for sure.
The parking issue is really mine. His car is new, and our other car is "newer" than my Saturn. I would rather not leave the other two cars out of the garage just for my convenience. I agree that it may not seem like a good idea when saving money, but I'm thinking about how much money I've been pumping into my Saturn over the last couple of years, knowing that it might not pass smog this year... When your wife is more worried about you driving your old car than a motorcycle, you know the car is iffy! |
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February 12th, 2009, 11:41 AM | #22 |
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If your choices, then, are only between a used and a new bike w/ a difference of 2k, you're pretty much screwed. I'd pony up and buy a new bike at the cheapest OTD cost you can find and don't look back.
Have you checked with dealers in the surrounding states? As Alex pointed out, you're pretty much stuck if you need it in the next day or 2. I personally think it's never a good idea to be in a rush with purchases like these. |
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February 12th, 2009, 11:43 AM | #23 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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Yeah. I'm feeling kind of stuck right now. The problem with dealers out of state is that when you bring the bike into California, it takes a certain time to license and there are extra fees that go along with it. By the time you're done, it ends up costing more than buying "in state".
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February 12th, 2009, 11:44 AM | #24 |
So slow I'm first!
Name: Sunny
Location: San Jose, CA
Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 06 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Posts: A lot.
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if you are willing to travel I would look and see if there might be something avaliable in the bay area.
I am not sure if this one is sold yet but this looks like a fine machine and I know the forum is a good place http://www.southbayriders.com/forums...ad.php?t=72553
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February 12th, 2009, 11:44 AM | #25 |
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Location: SF Bay Area
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Not feasible in California. If a bike doesn't have the 50-state emissions sticker (or have the CARB sticker for California-only bikes), it has to have at least 7500 miles on it before it can be registered in CA as a used bike. AFAIK, the ninjettes have specific California versions (which are also sold in NY and the few other states that have gone to California CARB rules).
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February 12th, 2009, 02:20 PM | #26 |
Track Junkie
Name: Jon
Location: Dallas
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602
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buy a used 08. mine was a little rashed up (but not bad) with 5k miles. i got it for $2600 cash.
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February 12th, 2009, 02:52 PM | #27 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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Just found another dealer nearby. Gave me a quote of $4500 O.T.D. Going to go look at it tonight.
Still have to decide if fixing car is smarter move. |
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February 12th, 2009, 03:07 PM | #28 |
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From Alex's calculations, that seems like a decent deal. If you want a bike, you better hurry down there.
BTW, what color is it? |
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February 12th, 2009, 03:18 PM | #29 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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It's blue. They have set it aside for me to look at this afternoon. Since I wanted blue or black, that works for me. They also said they will give me discounts on gear, so that helps, too. Besides, it's raining here this week, so I'm not sure how many folks will be cycle shopping today!
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February 12th, 2009, 05:20 PM | #30 |
Live Life
Name: Don
Location: Lincoln, NE
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.
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I have an '01 and just got back from my second ride on my new '09. GET THE 2009. The difference in handling, feel, is so great I could not believe it.
It's an investment. If you can buy the '09 then by all means. But don't spend 3600 on an '05. There should be some '07 or '08 out there for that price.
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February 12th, 2009, 05:24 PM | #31 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
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Thanks for the insight, oldguy.
I'm going to look at the '09 right now. I'm just torn deciding between the car and the bike, but I'm sure that if I buy the '09 I won't be disappointed. I'll let you all know how it turns out. |
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February 12th, 2009, 05:58 PM | #32 |
Live Life
Name: Don
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Keep us posted Adam. There are a lot of people that have way more experience than me that can help you if it's a used machine.
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February 12th, 2009, 06:29 PM | #33 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Alex
Location: Belfast, ME
Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.
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Adam, $4500 OTD for an 09 is not too dusty. I would jump on it. Just think, you are doing what our illustrious leaders in Washington want you to do. You are stimulating the economy. I don`t really mean to sound facetious, but our tenant`s washing machine broke and it would have cost more to fix it than buy a new one--we stimulated the economy and bought a new one. Wife and I hauled it out of the store, hauled it into the apartment and installed it, and then hauled the old one (only 6 years old) to the recycling station. Worked hard today. Get the bike. It is an absolute pleasure to ride, will do wonders for your psyche, and is guaranteed to generate endorphins. You are making an investment in yourself. What else really matters?
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February 12th, 2009, 08:49 PM | #34 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Adam
Location: Sacramento area
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - blue Posts: 177
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Pulled the Trigger
Hi again.
Well...the deed has been done. I am now the proud (yet feeling upset that I spent the money on myself) owner of a blue 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250. The final price was $4431, and I get 10% off gear. I go back tomorrow to pick it up and buy the gear. Not bad? I hope I can get past this sickening hatred of spending the cash on myself , but my wife is cool with it and has been very kind. So now you can add me to the list of Ninjette riders. |
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February 12th, 2009, 08:53 PM | #35 |
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Congrats, Adam!! Way to go!!!
Treat the wife kindly to avoid future wars over your new mistress. also... |
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February 12th, 2009, 09:02 PM | #36 |
Live Life
Name: Don
Location: Lincoln, NE
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.
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Congratulations and welcome to the world of Second Generation 250's. You will be all smiles. Sounds like you have a great wife. Don't forget her on Valentines day or this could all go down the big pipe.
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February 13th, 2009, 07:03 AM | #37 |
So slow I'm first!
Name: Sunny
Location: San Jose, CA
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Yay!! Welcome!!
And did you see that Kelly??? It's BLUE Sexxxxsseeeee Man's got taste. No wonder he has himself a good wife!
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February 13th, 2009, 07:17 AM | #38 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Anthony
Location: Marble Hill, MO
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Well, as others have said the prices you're quoting are too high, especially for the used bikes. I'd check with other dealers, craigslist, or other Ninja 250 for sale pages.
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February 13th, 2009, 07:33 AM | #39 | |
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February 13th, 2009, 08:41 PM | #40 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Kim
Location: mundo de ensueño
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congrats Adam, and welcome! If she starts getting touchy about it, just let her sit on it near the tank when it's running - she'll grow to love it too
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