Quick Question about accessories (Headlights, Horn, Taillights, etc)

shiftdrift06 · June 9th, 2010, 02:18 PM

Hello, I just recently purchased a bike, however, it does not run. That is not my concern at the moment, as I am gonna replace the engine soon.

However I was wondering, what accessories turn on, with the key in the "On" position with the bike NOT running.

SO far, only my turn signals work, my front and rear headlights don't work as well as my horn. Does my bike need to be running for those to work?

Momaru · June 9th, 2010, 02:59 PM

That may depend on the model, but if it's one of the newer generation, the below are true:

The headlights shouldn't come on until the engine has been started. They will however, remain on once the engine has stopped if you don't turn the key to 'off'.

The horn is also downstream of the starter relay so it won't work unless the engine's on. Edit: it will, I just read the diagram wrong.

Do the tail & license plate lights work? They should whether the engine's been started or not.

Here's a link to the full wiring diagram for the new-gen
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35886

Verus Cidere · June 9th, 2010, 05:09 PM

On a pregen, the horn and tail light should work without turning the bike on, but the headlight is the same as described by Paul. My first suggestion would be check your fuses. I won't pretend to understand how they work, but that may help. I do know that the fuse for the backlight behind the speedometer and tachometer are connected to the same fuse as the tail light, so an easy way to check that is to switch the bike on at night. If those lights aren't on when you switch the bike on, the fuse is probably blown. I don't know about the horn, but I know that both the tail light and the horn should work without starting the bike on a pregen.

shiftdrift06 · June 9th, 2010, 07:11 PM

Thank You for the reply, Momaru and Verus Cidere.

As of now, only my turn signal works right now.

I will check my fuse and report back.

kkim · June 9th, 2010, 07:58 PM

check the rear tail light bulb... it may be blown.

shiftdrift06 · June 10th, 2010, 01:48 PM

Tested all the fuses with a testlight they were fine. I started to fiddle with the connection at the horn, and it works now.

My rear bulb was half blown, the taillight filament was gone, but the brake filament was still good.

But I notice that, only my brake pedal would light up my rear brakes, my brake lever switch might be out, or loose connection, because it doesn't light up my brake light.

And notice that my clutch switch or kick switch is funky, it would sometimes crank my engine, in almost any position....

Momaru · June 10th, 2010, 09:51 PM

The clutch switches are notoriously flakey. I took mine apart & cleaned it which helped me.

The 'before' shot...
DSC05091.jpg

Sorry for the bad info on the horn; should've gone out and just checked it like I meant to...

June 9th, 2010, 02:18 PM	#1
shiftdrift06 ninjette.org member Name: Z Location: Earth Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 92	Quick Question about accessories (Headlights, Horn, Taillights, etc) Hello, I just recently purchased a bike, however, it does not run. That is not my concern at the moment, as I am gonna replace the engine soon. However I was wondering, what accessories turn on, with the key in the "On" position with the bike NOT running. SO far, only my turn signals work, my front and rear headlights don't work as well as my horn. Does my bike need to be running for those to work?

June 9th, 2010, 02:59 PM	#2
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	That may depend on the model, but if it's one of the newer generation, the below are true: The headlights shouldn't come on until the engine has been started. They will however, remain on once the engine has stopped if you don't turn the key to 'off'. The horn is also downstream of the starter relay so it won't work unless the engine's on. Edit: it will, I just read the diagram wrong. Do the tail & license plate lights work? They should whether the engine's been started or not. Here's a link to the full wiring diagram for the new-gen http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35886 __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army Last futzed with by Momaru; June 10th, 2010 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Correction to horn

June 9th, 2010, 05:09 PM	#3
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	On a pregen, the horn and tail light should work without turning the bike on, but the headlight is the same as described by Paul. My first suggestion would be check your fuses. I won't pretend to understand how they work, but that may help. I do know that the fuse for the backlight behind the speedometer and tachometer are connected to the same fuse as the tail light, so an easy way to check that is to switch the bike on at night. If those lights aren't on when you switch the bike on, the fuse is probably blown. I don't know about the horn, but I know that both the tail light and the horn should work without starting the bike on a pregen. __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

June 10th, 2010, 09:51 PM	#7
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	The clutch switches are notoriously flakey. I took mine apart & cleaned it which helped me. The 'before' shot... DSC05091.jpg Sorry for the bad info on the horn; should've gone out and just checked it like I meant to... __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

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June 9th, 2010, 07:11 PM	#4
shiftdrift06 ninjette.org member Name: Z Location: Earth Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 92	Thank You for the reply, Momaru and Verus Cidere. As of now, only my turn signal works right now. I will check my fuse and report back.

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kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	check the rear tail light bulb... it may be blown.

June 10th, 2010, 01:48 PM	#6
shiftdrift06 ninjette.org member Name: Z Location: Earth Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 92	Tested all the fuses with a testlight they were fine. I started to fiddle with the connection at the horn, and it works now. My rear bulb was half blown, the taillight filament was gone, but the brake filament was still good. But I notice that, only my brake pedal would light up my rear brakes, my brake lever switch might be out, or loose connection, because it doesn't light up my brake light. And notice that my clutch switch or kick switch is funky, it would sometimes crank my engine, in almost any position....