Example of a deal too good to be true

g21-30 · November 29th, 2012, 05:35 AM

Yesterday, I found the following add in the DC Craigslist:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...441456347.html

I sent an email asking for more info and here is the response I received:

Hi,

The bike is a 2007 zx6r model has 6700 miles, 600 cc. It's in perfect condition,no electric/engine problems,no accidents/liens/loans,no scratches.I have all documents,2 spare of keys, clean title.This bike belonged to our son. He died 2 months ago in the army. He past away in Afghanistan serving his country. Now this bike brings us bad memories. Hope you understand our pain in this moments.If you are really interested in buying the bike please do take care of it as we and our son did because it's a beautiful bike and it would be ashamed not to. Last price is $1400.

Me and my husband travel a lot with our personal business and we want to make this deal through eBay Buyer Protection Program. I just need your full name,full shipping address, home/cell # so I can open the transaction case (with no further obligation or fees).eBay will contact you with all the Transaction/shipping information you will need. We will take care of the shipping so don't worry.

See pictures @ the following address: http://photobucket.com/whitekawzx6r

================================================

I did a search of the fatalities in Afghanistan for the last four (4) months and not one soldier had the same last name of the sender(s). The eBay protection plan does not apply unless the transaction originates/terminates on eBay, etc.

What do you think? Too good to be true?

psych0hans · November 29th, 2012, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

Yesterday, I found the following add in the DC Craigslist:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...441456347.html

I sent an email asking for more info and here is the response I received:

Hi,

The bike is a 2007 zx6r model has 6700 miles, 600 cc. It's in perfect condition,no electric/engine problems,no accidents/liens/loans,no scratches.I have all documents,2 spare of keys, clean title.This bike belonged to our son. He died 2 months ago in the army. He past away in Afghanistan serving his country. Now this bike brings us bad memories. Hope you understand our pain in this moments.If you are really interested in buying the bike please do take care of it as we and our son did because it's a beautiful bike and it would be ashamed not to. Last price is $1400.

Me and my husband travel a lot with our personal business and we want to make this deal through eBay Buyer Protection Program. I just need your full name,full shipping address, home/cell # so I can open the transaction case (with no further obligation or fees).eBay will contact you with all the Transaction/shipping information you will need. We will take care of the shipping so don't worry.

See pictures @ the following address: http://photobucket.com/whitekawzx6r

================================================

I did a search of the fatalities in Afghanistan for the last four (4) months and not one soldier had the same last name of the sender(s). The eBay protection plan does not apply unless the transaction originates/terminates on eBay, etc.

What do you think? Too good to be true?

The moment you see a sad sob story, begging you to take away their Posession at a throw away price... You KNOW it's a scam... Message them asking to see he bike and keep waiting for a reply... Lol

g21-30 · November 29th, 2012, 05:48 AM

Yep, I asked them to send me the eBay listing #! Now I'm going to hold my breath.

Yakaru · November 29th, 2012, 06:11 AM

I'll also add, beyond the sob story that lots of spelling/grammar mistakes are usually a sign of a scam too; which this also contains.
Lastly, if they DO come through be wary of it being a stolen bike -- there was a reddit AMA recently by a ex-bike thief who talked about how to do that (among other things): http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/..._operator_ama/ was the thread I believe.

dfox · November 29th, 2012, 07:01 AM

just move on. it's a scam.

Sylum · November 29th, 2012, 07:53 AM

That picture is being used for a CL ad down here in louisiana I think.

Jono · November 29th, 2012, 08:09 AM

It's a scam! There are some ****ed up people in this world.

bbonds007 · November 29th, 2012, 08:15 AM

Yup, seen that image before, most craigslist scams use like the same 10 photos. Also, if it is cheap along with the bike/car/truck whatever being tricked out with custom paint, chrome wheels, chrome trim, custom lights, etc, 99% of the time it is a scam.

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 09:03 AM

The sad part is, if they would list it for more and run the text through a word processing program, it would be a more believable posting and would only take them 5 minutes. $1400 raises some flags with us asking, "is it too good to be true?" where $3000 would be more believable.

alex.s · November 29th, 2012, 11:12 AM

some people have no respect

bkh2 · November 29th, 2012, 11:51 AM

It definitely is a scam. A while ago, I saw an ad on my local Craigslist (BC, Canada) that had a price that was too good to be true. I emailed them and what do you know? I got back the exact same email that you got, with the exception of bike, price, and alleged place of death of their son.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 12:36 PM

Here's how to tell if its a scam. Be a total ****ing asshole and if they still want to sell it to you then you know its a scam. If it's not a scam they won't ever talk to you again but at least you'll know. Say something like I'm glad your son died because the army and war is evil and blah blah blah but I really like that bike I can't wait to pick it up!

JELY1990 · November 29th, 2012, 01:17 PM

When I was looking for my 250 I got the same exact scam letter when asking for more info in a cl ad. Funniest part to me was they spelled their name in the ad and in the email differently; differently enough that it couldn't be a typo.

Madman44 · November 29th, 2012, 03:08 PM

seems legit

Old Lemon · November 29th, 2012, 10:07 PM

saw the same thing a couple months ago except in PA and for a 2011 zx6r. he said all of the paper work AND the bike was with GOOGLE in like arkansas or something and i had to pay with google checkout. a quick google search of google checkout and all you see is people saying this is the worst thing ever due to NO customer support. so no one can validate anything, get money back or anything.

dmb5450 · November 30th, 2012, 06:03 AM

I had the same story 2 years ago. I was interested in buying a car, they sent the eBay post, but if you actually typed it in on eBay by going to ebay.com, not there ebay, no I'd number matched. I called eBay they said it was a scam, they contacted the FBI and that was the end of it.

GearMonkey · November 30th, 2012, 10:14 PM

Post flagged for removal, scamtastic

Bassman · November 30th, 2012, 10:31 PM

If it's too good to be true, it is.

1ER6F · December 1st, 2012, 03:42 PM

Personally, I love when I come across a scam, it gives me an excuse to drop an email bomb.

SabreValkyrn · December 1st, 2012, 03:54 PM

I've seen it on the Bellingham/Seattle craigslist almost constantly for the past month or so.

The ones up here said "Kawasaki Ninja" and had no page information, just the picture of a white bike.

November 29th, 2012, 05:35 AM	#1
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	Example of a deal too good to be true Yesterday, I found the following add in the DC Craigslist: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...441456347.html I sent an email asking for more info and here is the response I received: Hi, The bike is a 2007 zx6r model has 6700 miles, 600 cc. It's in perfect condition,no electric/engine problems,no accidents/liens/loans,no scratches.I have all documents,2 spare of keys, clean title.This bike belonged to our son. He died 2 months ago in the army. He past away in Afghanistan serving his country. Now this bike brings us bad memories. Hope you understand our pain in this moments.If you are really interested in buying the bike please do take care of it as we and our son did because it's a beautiful bike and it would be ashamed not to. Last price is $1400. Me and my husband travel a lot with our personal business and we want to make this deal through eBay Buyer Protection Program. I just need your full name,full shipping address, home/cell # so I can open the transaction case (with no further obligation or fees).eBay will contact you with all the Transaction/shipping information you will need. We will take care of the shipping so don't worry. See pictures @ the following address: http://photobucket.com/whitekawzx6r ================================================ I did a search of the fatalities in Afghanistan for the last four (4) months and not one soldier had the same last name of the sender(s). The eBay protection plan does not apply unless the transaction originates/terminates on eBay, etc. What do you think? Too good to be true?

November 29th, 2012, 11:12 AM	#10
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	some people have no respect __________________________________________________

November 29th, 2012, 12:36 PM	#12
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Here's how to tell if its a scam. Be a total ****ing asshole and if they still want to sell it to you then you know its a scam. If it's not a scam they won't ever talk to you again but at least you'll know. Say something like I'm glad your son died because the army and war is evil and blah blah blah but I really like that bike I can't wait to pick it up! __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 30th, 2012, 10:31 PM	#18
Bassman ninjette.org guru Name: Marc Location: Castaic, CA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1986 Goldwing, 1996 CR500, 2011 Ninja 250, 2009 Harley Heritage Softail, 1941 Suzuki Gerbil 250 Posts: 427	If it's too good to be true, it is. __________________________________________________ I know there's a 7th gear here somewhere... Changing to 15T/41T, now I'll get that 7th gear, lol.

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November 29th, 2012, 05:48 AM	#3
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	Yep, I asked them to send me the eBay listing #! Now I'm going to hold my breath.

November 29th, 2012, 06:11 AM	#4
Yakaru The Violet Vixen Name: Yakaru Location: Issaquah, WA & Las Vegas, NV Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Perigee (250), Hotaru (250), Saturn (300), Pearl (300), Zero (S1000RR), Chibi (Z125), Xellos ('18 HP4R) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '16	I'll also add, beyond the sob story that lots of spelling/grammar mistakes are usually a sign of a scam too; which this also contains. Lastly, if they DO come through be wary of it being a stolen bike -- there was a reddit AMA recently by a ex-bike thief who talked about how to do that (among other things): http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/..._operator_ama/ was the thread I believe.

November 29th, 2012, 07:01 AM	#5
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	just move on. it's a scam.

November 29th, 2012, 07:53 AM	#6
Sylum ninjette.org member Name: Brett Location: Louisiana Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 14	That picture is being used for a CL ad down here in louisiana I think.

November 29th, 2012, 08:09 AM	#7
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	It's a scam! There are some ****ed up people in this world.

November 29th, 2012, 08:15 AM	#8
bbonds007 The Bonds Name: Bryan Location: State College, Pa Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 06 Yellow Ninja Posts: 69	Yup, seen that image before, most craigslist scams use like the same 10 photos. Also, if it is cheap along with the bike/car/truck whatever being tricked out with custom paint, chrome wheels, chrome trim, custom lights, etc, 99% of the time it is a scam.

November 29th, 2012, 09:03 AM	#9
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	The sad part is, if they would list it for more and run the text through a word processing program, it would be a more believable posting and would only take them 5 minutes. $1400 raises some flags with us asking, "is it too good to be true?" where $3000 would be more believable.

November 29th, 2012, 11:51 AM	#11
bkh2 ninjette.org guru Name: Ben Location: R'lyeh Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 GSXR 750; 1983 CB750SC Posts: 277	It definitely is a scam. A while ago, I saw an ad on my local Craigslist (BC, Canada) that had a price that was too good to be true. I emailed them and what do you know? I got back the exact same email that you got, with the exception of bike, price, and alleged place of death of their son.

November 29th, 2012, 01:17 PM	#13
JELY1990 Boring is my middle name. Name: Jason Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 258	When I was looking for my 250 I got the same exact scam letter when asking for more info in a cl ad. Funniest part to me was they spelled their name in the ad and in the email differently; differently enough that it couldn't be a typo.

November 29th, 2012, 03:08 PM	#14
Madman44 ninjette.org guru Name: Martin Location: California Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 291	seems legit

November 29th, 2012, 10:07 PM	#15
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	saw the same thing a couple months ago except in PA and for a 2011 zx6r. he said all of the paper work AND the bike was with GOOGLE in like arkansas or something and i had to pay with google checkout. a quick google search of google checkout and all you see is people saying this is the worst thing ever due to NO customer support. so no one can validate anything, get money back or anything.

November 30th, 2012, 06:03 AM	#16
dmb5450 ninjette.org member Name: Donnie Location: Whitehall PA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 52	I had the same story 2 years ago. I was interested in buying a car, they sent the eBay post, but if you actually typed it in on eBay by going to ebay.com, not there ebay, no I'd number matched. I called eBay they said it was a scam, they contacted the FBI and that was the end of it.

November 30th, 2012, 10:14 PM	#17
GearMonkey ninjette.org guru Name: Scott Location: Atlanta Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 363	Post flagged for removal, scamtastic

December 1st, 2012, 03:42 PM	#19
1ER6F #41 Noriyuki Haga Name: 1ER6F Location: AZ Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r Track Bike Posts: 90	Personally, I love when I come across a scam, it gives me an excuse to drop an email bomb.

December 1st, 2012, 03:54 PM	#20
SabreValkyrn ninjette.org member Name: Joel Location: Bellingham, wa Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2017 Motus MSTR (Kara), 1990 Ninja 600R (ZX600C3) (Scrappy) Posts: 185	I've seen it on the Bellingham/Seattle craigslist almost constantly for the past month or so. The ones up here said "Kawasaki Ninja" and had no page information, just the picture of a white bike.