What will be the HP of the 300cc ninja post aftermarket upgrades, any estimates?

2smkelvr · September 8th, 2012, 12:15 AM

It is around 39hp stock but im thinking what will a maxed out 300 be pushing? about 50hp? and what do you think the big bore kit will be, 350,375, or 400cc
Should be interesting I wish Kawasaki also sheaded some weight other then just adding power.

Jiggles · September 8th, 2012, 12:30 AM

The ninja 300 will make 31hp at the wheel, 39 is at the crank, no one cares about that useless number. With full pipes and intake mods I'd say 35-37hp should be attainable. A big bore kit may not be possible if the 300 ends up being a bored out 250, but if it is possible to bore it out then it might crack 40hp

2smkelvr · September 8th, 2012, 12:36 AM

I suppose if the 300 ends up being a bored out 250 that would be great for previous model owners especially if direct bolt in of an engine swap is attainable. And if it isn't that's good news for more power for current 300 owners. And I know that's at the crank, manufacturers never give the whp

Jiggles · September 8th, 2012, 12:42 AM

stupid manufacturers

When my 250s engine takes a poop at 50k miles I might swap in a 300 if its not too difficult

choneofakind · September 8th, 2012, 09:31 AM

If they do a half of a ZX6R engine, it should be just fine for boring to make it less boring.

oblivion007 · September 8th, 2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

If they do a half of a ZX6R engine, it should be just fine for boring to make it less boring.

Haha that would be cool.

staulkor · September 8th, 2012, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The ninja 300 will make 31hp at the wheel, 39 is at the crank, no one cares about that useless number. With full pipes and intake mods I'd say 35-37hp should be attainable. A big bore kit may not be possible if the 300 ends up being a bored out 250, but if it is possible to bore it out then it might crack 40hp

I agree. It is just a couple HP bump, nothing crazy.

choneofakind · September 8th, 2012, 07:43 PM

But even 31-33 hp at the wheel is what a newgen can make (fully modded with bolt-on goodies) and that's completely stock, and super quiet. A 250 with a full pipe and open intake is impressively fun and peppy in it's own right. Having that, but whisper quiet sounds great.

Now imagine adding another 5-8 hp onto that to get 37-40 hp

The only guy turning numbers like that with a 250 is Racer x, and look at how much time/money/knowledge he's had to put into his bike, and it's hardly meant for the street. There's certainly a lot of potential with this new bike.

Snake · September 8th, 2012, 08:00 PM

I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500.
IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs.
Rant over.

psych0hans · September 8th, 2012, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500.
IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs.
Rant over.

I concur

Jiggles · September 8th, 2012, 08:21 PM

**** that, modding is as much a part of ridig as riding is

psych0hans · September 8th, 2012, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

modding is as much a part of ridig

Pray, do tell us how you do that?

JA-Moo · September 8th, 2012, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500.
IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs.
Rant over.

The problem, is we all get used to the HP of whatever we ride, so then we want more. Does a Busa really need a turbo and 400hp? No, but guys get used to the stock hp and want more.

Plus, as was said, it's fun to work on a bike and make it faster or handle better!

Jiggles · September 8th, 2012, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

Pray, do tell us how you do that?

Thats called drunk texting, get used to it

2smkelvr · September 11th, 2012, 03:40 PM

Its hard to tell or not if it is a completely different engine or if it uses 250cc internals and is bored out it kinda looks like the 250cc engine and kinda not

2smkelvr · September 11th, 2012, 03:41 PM

More photos found here
http://www.gizmag.com/kawasaki-ninja...14/pictures#19

gt_turbo · September 11th, 2012, 03:57 PM

my guess would be about 35-38 HP to the wheel with full exhaust, intake, and bazzaz. modding is not always about peak HP, but better power curve along the entire rpm band.

Jiggles · September 11th, 2012, 03:59 PM

Yea but theres no good number to describe that curve

Jiggles · September 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM

Wait I've got it. My stock ninja's dyno curve at peak is -1/1000x^2 +24.9 I'm hoping with my new setup to get something like -1/1500x^2 + 31.0

adouglas · September 11th, 2012, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500.
IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs.
Rant over.

Bzzzt. Not quite.

I want a 500. I can't buy one because they don't make 'em anymore.

I would be quite happy with it, bone stock. I can say this with confidence because I used to have an EX500. Great bike. Uncomfortable seat and now it's very dated so a used one isn't in the cards.

Sailariel · September 11th, 2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake

I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500.
IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs.
Rant over.

Rick, The new owner of my Ninja tricked it out and uses it on the track (never registered it for the street) I hear it puts out around 30HP. He is happy with that.

My Honda puts out 65 HP, which is plenty for me. I will modify the suspension with Race Tech components. For the track, the CB550K Cafe will be fine. Probably won't register it for the street.

Surferboy120 · September 11th, 2012, 09:21 PM

Hey guys my first posting here since joining. I have recently joined because I am very excited about the 300 Ninja and I have already signed up to get the first one here at my dealership. I have been riding most my life until the past 5 years in which I have been messing around and restored an old 78 XL100 Honda enduro for my son. We did it as a family project. Point is I am excited to get back on a sport bike but was not eager to jump into a 600 or more so the 300 fits the bill nicely since all out speed is not my desire and running smooth corners is.

As I understand it the 300 uses the same 62mm bore size as the 250 but uses a longer rod as well as using a 7.8mm-longer stroke combined with shorter, lighter connecting rods to keep engine height identical to the 250.

This means a bigbore kit is not out of the question for those with enough interest. For my own needs I think I will enjoy wrapping some track plastic on it and doing a number of laps down memory lane again. I cant wait.

I look forward to learning and sharing information on this board. It seems to be the place for small liter Kawasaki fans.

Monkeytofu · September 11th, 2012, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surferboy120

Hey guys my first posting here since joining. I have recently joined because I am very excited about the 300 Ninja and I have already signed up to get the first one here at my dealership. I have been riding most my life until the past 5 years in which I have been messing around and restored an old 78 XL100 Honda enduro for my son. We did it as a family project. Point is I am excited to get back on a sport bike but was not eager to jump into a 600 or more so the 300 fits the bill nicely since all out speed is not my desire and running smooth corners is.

As I understand it the 300 uses the same 62mm bore size as the 250 but uses a longer rod as well as using a 7.8mm-longer stroke combined with shorter, lighter connecting rods to keep engine height identical to the 250.

This means a bigbore kit is not out of the question for those with enough interest. For my own needs I think I will enjoy wrapping some track plastic on it and doing a number of laps down memory lane again. I cant wait.

I look forward to learning and sharing information on this board. It seems to be the place for small liter Kawasaki fans.

Well now you're basically obligated to do an extensive review once you get the bike

Surferboy120 · September 11th, 2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeytofu

Well now you're basically obligated to do an extensive review once you get the bike

I can't wait.

Surferboy120 · September 13th, 2012, 02:52 PM

I just put my deposit down for my Ninja 300. I should have it either next month or at the latest end of Nov.

2smkelvr · September 15th, 2012, 05:17 PM

I wish I could get a 300 just to try it out and see the difference between it and the 2005 ex250 I had. The interesting thing in Taiwan is anything over 250cc gets a yellow plate allowing you to drive on more roads This will be the first small yellow license plate ninja in Taiwan To bad the 300 will cost about 15000usd+- in Taiwan

September 8th, 2012, 12:30 AM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	The ninja 300 will make 31hp at the wheel, 39 is at the crank, no one cares about that useless number. With full pipes and intake mods I'd say 35-37hp should be attainable. A big bore kit may not be possible if the 300 ends up being a bored out 250, but if it is possible to bore it out then it might crack 40hp __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 8th, 2012, 12:42 AM	#4
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	stupid manufacturers When my 250s engine takes a poop at 50k miles I might swap in a 300 if its not too difficult __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 8th, 2012, 08:21 PM	#11
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	**** that, modding is as much a part of ridig as riding is __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 11th, 2012, 03:59 PM	#18
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Yea but theres no good number to describe that curve __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

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September 8th, 2012, 12:15 AM	#1
2smkelvr ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Taipei Taiwan Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): NSR 150 Posts: 38	What will be the HP of the 300cc ninja post aftermarket upgrades, any estimates? It is around 39hp stock but im thinking what will a maxed out 300 be pushing? about 50hp? and what do you think the big bore kit will be, 350,375, or 400cc Should be interesting I wish Kawasaki also sheaded some weight other then just adding power.

September 8th, 2012, 12:36 AM	#3
2smkelvr ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Taipei Taiwan Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): NSR 150 Posts: 38	I suppose if the 300 ends up being a bored out 250 that would be great for previous model owners especially if direct bolt in of an engine swap is attainable. And if it isn't that's good news for more power for current 300 owners. And I know that's at the crank, manufacturers never give the whp

September 8th, 2012, 09:31 AM	#5
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	If they do a half of a ZX6R engine, it should be just fine for boring to make it less boring.

September 8th, 2012, 07:43 PM	#8
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	But even 31-33 hp at the wheel is what a newgen can make (fully modded with bolt-on goodies) and that's completely stock, and super quiet. A 250 with a full pipe and open intake is impressively fun and peppy in it's own right. Having that, but whisper quiet sounds great. Now imagine adding another 5-8 hp onto that to get 37-40 hp The only guy turning numbers like that with a 250 is Racer x, and look at how much time/money/knowledge he's had to put into his bike, and it's hardly meant for the street. There's certainly a lot of potential with this new bike.

September 8th, 2012, 08:00 PM	#9
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I find it very funny that no matter the size of the bike, some people want to squeeze more power out of it. Kawasaki (possibly) comes out with a 300 and people want to bore it to a 350 or 400. If Kawasaki comes out with a 400 will not be happy and want to bore it to a 500. IMHO people need to find out how much power they want out of a bike and go out and buy a bike that matches their needs. Rant over.

September 11th, 2012, 03:40 PM	#15
2smkelvr ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Taipei Taiwan Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): NSR 150 Posts: 38	Its hard to tell or not if it is a completely different engine or if it uses 250cc internals and is bored out it kinda looks like the 250cc engine and kinda not

September 11th, 2012, 03:41 PM	#16
2smkelvr ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Taipei Taiwan Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): NSR 150 Posts: 38	More photos found here http://www.gizmag.com/kawasaki-ninja...14/pictures#19

September 11th, 2012, 03:57 PM	#17
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	my guess would be about 35-38 HP to the wheel with full exhaust, intake, and bazzaz. modding is not always about peak HP, but better power curve along the entire rpm band.

September 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM	#19
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Wait I've got it. My stock ninja's dyno curve at peak is -1/1000x^2 +24.9 I'm hoping with my new setup to get something like -1/1500x^2 + 31.0 __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 11th, 2012, 09:21 PM	#22
Surferboy120 Finding some curves.... Name: Thomas Location: Hurst,Texas Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 300 Ninja Posts: 268	Hey guys my first posting here since joining. I have recently joined because I am very excited about the 300 Ninja and I have already signed up to get the first one here at my dealership. I have been riding most my life until the past 5 years in which I have been messing around and restored an old 78 XL100 Honda enduro for my son. We did it as a family project. Point is I am excited to get back on a sport bike but was not eager to jump into a 600 or more so the 300 fits the bill nicely since all out speed is not my desire and running smooth corners is. As I understand it the 300 uses the same 62mm bore size as the 250 but uses a longer rod as well as using a 7.8mm-longer stroke combined with shorter, lighter connecting rods to keep engine height identical to the 250. This means a bigbore kit is not out of the question for those with enough interest. For my own needs I think I will enjoy wrapping some track plastic on it and doing a number of laps down memory lane again. I cant wait. I look forward to learning and sharing information on this board. It seems to be the place for small liter Kawasaki fans.

September 13th, 2012, 02:52 PM	#25
Surferboy120 Finding some curves.... Name: Thomas Location: Hurst,Texas Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 300 Ninja Posts: 268	I just put my deposit down for my Ninja 300. I should have it either next month or at the latest end of Nov.

September 15th, 2012, 05:17 PM	#26
2smkelvr ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Taipei Taiwan Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): NSR 150 Posts: 38	I wish I could get a 300 just to try it out and see the difference between it and the 2005 ex250 I had. The interesting thing in Taiwan is anything over 250cc gets a yellow plate allowing you to drive on more roads This will be the first small yellow license plate ninja in Taiwan To bad the 300 will cost about 15000usd+- in Taiwan