Dragging... your boots?

Nemy · March 25th, 2009, 09:06 PM

So with warmer weather creeping in and the new toy I got this year, I've been slowly trying to test her limits and the limits of the (questionable) IRC tires.

But dragging my boots?! I always thought the pegs would be the first to touch ground. Isn't that what they're there for? Granted, they were a pair of the slightly bulky ICON chukkas and my feet were under the shifter preparing to upshift out of the turn. Just thought it was weird and kind of frustrating that it took a little chunk out of my new boots...

So is my riding/foot position where it's supposed to be?

kkim · March 25th, 2009, 09:12 PM

try riding on the balls of your feet when cornering.

sometimesido · March 25th, 2009, 09:14 PM

I think dragging the boots/pegs are little too low for the streets.
Or, if it was on a track, change your boots.

SteveL · March 26th, 2009, 01:36 AM

Let us know if you manage to scrub off the hero bobbles (the molding bits on the edge of the tyre to the side wall)

Steve

Snake · March 26th, 2009, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveL

Let us know if you manage to scrub off the hero bobbles (the molding bits on the edge of the tyre to the side wall)

Steve

Now that would be some leaning.

Viper-Byte · March 26th, 2009, 04:05 AM

I never ride with my boot under the shifter while going around a corner (left hander anyway), as this can happen. You could go low enough that your boot will lever grip off the tyres and you could slide and not be able to recover and end up going down. That is just my

anyway.

HKr1 · March 26th, 2009, 04:57 AM

Kinda hard to up-shift when your leaned over in a left hand corner. Thats why track bikes go to the reverse shift.
If your foot is up on the peg and your still dragging toe, thats pretty dam sweet

Thats why the boots have toe sliders

Cali619 · March 26th, 2009, 07:07 AM

I have accidentally hit my boot but it was taking a short constant left that whipped into a very tight decreasing radius going right. I dont think its good to drag boot lol I just had my right foot pointing out a little to much as I was changing from hanging of the left to the immediate right. Not much time for me to adjust like usual on the pegs

Nemy · March 26th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper-Byte

I never ride with my boot under the shifter while going around a corner (left hander anyway), as this can happen. You could go low enough that your boot will lever grip off the tyres and you could slide and not be able to recover and end up going down. That is just my

anyway.

ya good point, I never thought I would be anywhere close though. I'm going to look into adjusting the shifter higher too with the new boots - the toe portion is so bulky I was probably sitting with my toes angled down.

and I'll leave the hero bobbles for the track.

camaroz1985 · March 26th, 2009, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemy

I'll leave the hero bobbles for the track.

Smart

Edit: Forgot the real reason I was intrigued by this thread. I was watching the Losail WSBK race last night and saw a couple times Spies dragging a toe. Looked like his foot slipped the one time.

Man that guy can ride, and is showing the world now. Its good to see an American succeeding in a higher form of motorsports (I'm not forgetting about Nicky).

Elbowz FTW

Broom · March 26th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Smart

Edit: Forgot the real reason I was intrigued by this thread. I was watching the Losail WSBK race last night and saw a couple times Spies dragging a toe. Looked like his foot slipped the one time.

Man that guy can ride, and is showing the world now. Its good to see an American succeeding in a higher form of motorsports (I'm not forgetting about Nicky).

Elbowz FTW

some of those guys are sporting elbow sliders now... i'll give you one guess why.

if you don't have the feelers on your pegs, then your boots will usually be touching before your pegs do. get some decent boots with toe sliders. the bike i was racing last year had my toes dragging all the time. sometimes i'd wear through a new set of toe sliders in one weekend even with my feet tucked up as far as i could on the pegs.

camaroz1985 · March 26th, 2009, 11:48 AM

I know they were saying that Spies was one of the only WSBK riders that does wear the elbow sliders.

Broom · March 26th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Geoff May via Robert Redmond

camaroz1985 · March 26th, 2009, 12:36 PM

What's he laying down for a nap?

Alex · March 26th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Before any of us try to do that on our Ninjettes, Geoff isn't only displaying some phenomenal skill there, he's also on some uber-sticky tires that frankly have almost nothing in common with what we're riding on other than being round and black. They are almost like superglue to the track, and go from brand new to completely done in 45 minutes. I still use DOT tires on the track as my pace doesn't warrant slicks yet, but even those trackday tires are much stickier than what is generally available for our ninjette rim sizes.

Nemy · March 26th, 2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

Geoff May via Robert Redmond

WOW!

Jiu Jitsu Player · March 26th, 2009, 04:13 PM

that's a killer photo. I dont even lean that much when Im on the couch...

P1NDLESK1N · March 26th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Hell, I've lowsided more upright than that!

miks · March 27th, 2009, 05:05 AM

Holy moly, looks like his foot is being squashed by the bike! Insane!

That picture intrigued me, so I google'd some pics, these guys are crazy!

Lurkable · March 27th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

if you don't have the feelers on your pegs, then your boots will usually be touching before your pegs do.

I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg? Honestly I didn't know if that thing was supposed to be getting scraped or not, but I assumed that's what the rubber sleeve around it was for...

Alex · March 27th, 2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurkable

I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg?

Yup, that's the foot peg feeler. It's meant as an early warning for some pretty significant lean angle for the bike. On track, most people remove the peg feelers to give a little more lean angle, if they haven't already switched to rearsets, which can give even more lean angle.

If you're scraping the peg feelers on the street, you're carrying quite a bit of lean angle. You should be able to carry the same corner speed with less lean angle by getting off the bike a bit more.

rceezy · March 28th, 2009, 04:58 AM

Ben Spies is a great rider. Suzuki was stupid to not sign him on for 09 MotoGp. Now look at him dominating for YAMAHA!!!

mcteague · March 28th, 2009, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurkable

I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg? Honestly I didn't know if that thing was supposed to be getting scraped or not, but I assumed that's what the rubber sleeve around it was for...

I took my "feelers" off. My pants were always snagging on them as I moved off from a stop.

Tim

komohana · March 28th, 2009, 02:21 PM

i got into the habit of keeping my foot on top of the shifter, only going under to shift, then right back on top, although my foot isn't always on the shifter as i tend to put the ball of my foot on the foot peg itself...

H.I.D. · May 22nd, 2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemy

So with warmer weather creeping in and the new toy I got this year, I've been slowly trying to test her limits and the limits of the (questionable) IRC tires.

But dragging my boots?! I always thought the pegs would be the first to touch ground. Isn't that what they're there for? Granted, they were a pair of the slightly bulky ICON chukkas and my feet were under the shifter preparing to upshift out of the turn. Just thought it was weird and kind of frustrating that it took a little chunk out of my new boots...

So is my riding/foot position where it's supposed to be?

how do you feel on tose irc tires ?

H.I.D. · May 22nd, 2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.I.D.

how do you feel on tose irc tires ?

have you changed your tirs yet? if so, what brand did you go to ?
i know that you can go up to a "150' on the rear without any
clearance issues. thanks. rob.

CC Cowboy · May 22nd, 2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rceezy

Ben Spies is a great rider. Suzuki was stupid to not sign him on for 09 MotoGp. Now look at him dominating for YAMAHA!!!

I just read today that Spies will probably move up to MotGP from WSB next year. Edwards moving down to WSB. A lot of talented young guys ready for MotoGP next year.

Alex · May 22nd, 2009, 05:06 PM

It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

smcbride11 · May 22nd, 2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

He's had some tough luck this year, though... Biaggi did what Biaggi does in Losail and welcomed him to WSBK - but then the running out of gas thing and the shifter rod breaking, both while leading races - that kind of stuff needs to be worked out or Nori's going to really REALLY run away with it.

Nemy · May 22nd, 2009, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.I.D.

have you changed your tirs yet? if so, what brand did you go to ?
i know that you can go up to a "150' on the rear without any
clearance issues. thanks. rob.

I haven't swapped out yet. Too poor to swap out before they've worn out... Most likely I'll be going Dunlop or Bridgestone in the next couple of months, though. Might even be adventurous and try the Metzeler tourings

and lol to the old thread hijack

H.I.D. · May 23rd, 2009, 04:26 AM

ooops ! new to the forum, now I know to stay on the Thread Topic.

CC Cowboy · May 23rd, 2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

Let's really speculate. Did you see the picture of Rossi in the Ferrari? Ferrari could run a third car in (who knows what organization) next year if Ferrari, Renault, and who knows pulls out of F1.

It must be pure BS because Rossi has a motocycle helmet on while in the Ferrari and everone knows you can't wear a motorcycle helmet in a F1 car.

OK lets get even deeper. Rossi moves to Ferrari (rally, I mean really) and Spies takes Rossi's spot. That's why he changed from Suzuki to Yamaha this year in WSB.

Purspeed · May 23rd, 2009, 11:25 PM

Spies is incredibly talented. So is Mladdin. But, tomorrow is promise to no one.

Elfling · May 24th, 2009, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broom

Geoff May via Robert Redmond

Pics like that make me happy in the pants

Alex · May 24th, 2009, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfling

Pics like that make me happy in the pants

Posts like that make the rest of us happy in the pants.

Apex · May 24th, 2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfling

Pics like that make me happy in the pants

lol

I like this picture...

CC Cowboy · May 24th, 2009, 03:02 PM

Is he using his rear brake?

DerTeufel · May 24th, 2009, 03:47 PM

Nope, that is a full-on power slide. I submit my favorite vid.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/138420/moto_gp_animals/

CC Cowboy · May 25th, 2009, 07:16 AM

That guy must be good!

Mista Bob · May 25th, 2009, 07:21 AM

I've only ever dragged my boots once, quite surprised me as I always ride with my feet in the proper position.
Especially since I'm on a nice n tall dual sport. More motivation to start riding foot out style.

March 25th, 2009, 09:06 PM	#1
Nemy ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Portland, OR Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 796	Dragging... your boots? So with warmer weather creeping in and the new toy I got this year, I've been slowly trying to test her limits and the limits of the (questionable) IRC tires. But dragging my boots?! I always thought the pegs would be the first to touch ground. Isn't that what they're there for? Granted, they were a pair of the slightly bulky ICON chukkas and my feet were under the shifter preparing to upshift out of the turn. Just thought it was weird and kind of frustrating that it took a little chunk out of my new boots... So is my riding/foot position where it's supposed to be?

March 25th, 2009, 09:14 PM	#3
sometimesido ninjette.org sage Name: Chris Location: Norcross, GA Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 250R Posts: 772 Blog Entries: 14	I think dragging the boots/pegs are little too low for the streets. Or, if it was on a track, change your boots. __________________________________________________ my flickr™

March 26th, 2009, 04:05 AM	#6
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	I never ride with my boot under the shifter while going around a corner (left hander anyway), as this can happen. You could go low enough that your boot will lever grip off the tyres and you could slide and not be able to recover and end up going down. That is just my anyway. __________________________________________________ 2008 GREEN Kawasaki Ninja 250R. AreaP Quiet Core Carbon Fibre : 8000k HIDs : Dynojet Jet kit : Double Bubble Windscreen

March 26th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#13
Broom Track Junkie Name: Jon Location: Dallas Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602	Geoff May via Robert Redmond __________________________________________________ Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com

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March 25th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	try riding on the balls of your feet when cornering.

March 26th, 2009, 01:36 AM	#4
SteveL old git Name: Steve Location: Geneve Switzerland Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): BMW K1300S Posts: 479	Let us know if you manage to scrub off the hero bobbles (the molding bits on the edge of the tyre to the side wall) Steve

March 26th, 2009, 04:57 AM	#7
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Kinda hard to up-shift when your leaned over in a left hand corner. Thats why track bikes go to the reverse shift. If your foot is up on the peg and your still dragging toe, thats pretty dam sweet Thats why the boots have toe sliders

March 26th, 2009, 07:07 AM	#8
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	I have accidentally hit my boot but it was taking a short constant left that whipped into a very tight decreasing radius going right. I dont think its good to drag boot lol I just had my right foot pointing out a little to much as I was changing from hanging of the left to the immediate right. Not much time for me to adjust like usual on the pegs

March 26th, 2009, 11:48 AM	#12
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March 26th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#17
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March 27th, 2009, 05:05 AM	#19
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March 28th, 2009, 04:58 AM	#22
rceezy Lean Me Name: RC Location: America Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 678 Blog Entries: 4	Ben Spies is a great rider. Suzuki was stupid to not sign him on for 09 MotoGp. Now look at him dominating for YAMAHA!!!

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May 22nd, 2009, 05:06 PM	#28
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May 23rd, 2009, 04:26 AM	#31
H.I.D. ninjette.org member Name: Rob Location: toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): "None yet" Posts: 16	ooops ! new to the forum, now I know to stay on the Thread Topic.

May 23rd, 2009, 11:25 PM	#33
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DerTeufel ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Wildomar Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2009 KTM 690 SMC, 2001 Suzuki GSX-R 750 (track bike) Posts: 172	Nope, that is a full-on power slide. I submit my favorite vid. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/138420/moto_gp_animals/

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May 25th, 2009, 07:21 AM	#40
Mista Bob Über n00b Name: Bob Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Triumph TT600, Honda NS50F, Kawasaki ZZR-250 (sold) Posts: 225	I've only ever dragged my boots once, quite surprised me as I always ride with my feet in the proper position. Especially since I'm on a nice n tall dual sport. More motivation to start riding foot out style.

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