Not your normal wider tire thread

Jinx250 · June 16th, 2011, 10:04 AM

Unlike most, I like hte size of my rear tire. What I am considering, though, is swapping to a 110 in the front. Now, the "normal" swap is to get the GT501, which means you have to raise the fender. But that's a 90 series tire. I'm looking at the same tire I have now (Diablo scoot) in the 110/70. By my math, it's actually 3MM shorter than the 100/80 on there now. The biggest advantage is that it's S rated instead of P. Do I plan on doing sustained riding at S rated speeds? No, but I do spend a lto of time at 80 or so where the traffic is flowing, and having that extra bit is worth the $4 or $5 difference IMO. If only they were available in Radial instead of bias-ply...

Anyone with a classic run these yet?

kkim · June 16th, 2011, 11:00 AM

Bob... what's the width of the front rim? is it designed to handle a 110? I made the same comment about the 110/70 being shorter than a 100/80 in another thread and the owner of that pregen (ZZR) said they thought the tire wouldn't fit under the fender. Would the fender need to be raised to accommodate the larger tire?

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76396

CynicalC · June 16th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Worth mentioning that tire sizes vary between brand y and brand z.

Jinx250 · June 17th, 2011, 08:34 AM

Yeah, the one thing I didn't look into was the rim size. Becuase if it pinches then that would make the tire taller, and also f things up royally. I gotta do more searching for the info.

fjyang · June 21st, 2011, 02:25 AM

I got the Diablo 110/70/16 front and due to the narrow rim size it does pinch a little so I'll never get to use that edge rubber unless I'm scraping my bars. If you go with 100 size I think I'll actually have a bigger contact patch then with the 110. Forget the scooter label, once broken in (100 miles), they just stick and gives really good feedback and not vague like others. I never feel the tires are holding me back and let me push the bike as far as I want to go. Do hold your judgement until its broken in as the first 50 miles makes you wonder if you make the right choice, after 100 miles you'll be laughing every corner.

Jinx250 · June 21st, 2011, 12:08 PM

Actually, looking at thigns on the Pirelli site, the 110 is approved for the 2.15 inch rim. I'm running the Diablo 100 on there now, and they def have a much rounder profile than some of the other tires I've ridden.

fjyang · June 23rd, 2011, 09:05 PM

One thing I do know for sure if you mount the 110 Diablo is that you'll never get to use the edge rubber compared to the 130 rear rubber. Yes it will fit and I was thinking as you along the lines that its only $5 more... compare to 100's. If your goal is to get more contact area with 110's I don't think you're going to get it with this tire. I'm going to ride my 110's till it wears out unless you want to swap

The rim on my 86-87 are the same as 88-07 250's just 3 spoke pattern and 2.15 so its the same.

June 16th, 2011, 10:04 AM	#1
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Not your normal wider tire thread Unlike most, I like hte size of my rear tire. What I am considering, though, is swapping to a 110 in the front. Now, the "normal" swap is to get the GT501, which means you have to raise the fender. But that's a 90 series tire. I'm looking at the same tire I have now (Diablo scoot) in the 110/70. By my math, it's actually 3MM shorter than the 100/80 on there now. The biggest advantage is that it's S rated instead of P. Do I plan on doing sustained riding at S rated speeds? No, but I do spend a lto of time at 80 or so where the traffic is flowing, and having that extra bit is worth the $4 or $5 difference IMO. If only they were available in Radial instead of bias-ply... Anyone with a classic run these yet?

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June 16th, 2011, 11:00 AM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Bob... what's the width of the front rim? is it designed to handle a 110? I made the same comment about the 110/70 being shorter than a 100/80 in another thread and the owner of that pregen (ZZR) said they thought the tire wouldn't fit under the fender. Would the fender need to be raised to accommodate the larger tire? http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76396

June 16th, 2011, 03:32 PM	#3
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Worth mentioning that tire sizes vary between brand y and brand z.

June 17th, 2011, 08:34 AM	#4
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Yeah, the one thing I didn't look into was the rim size. Becuase if it pinches then that would make the tire taller, and also f things up royally. I gotta do more searching for the info.

June 21st, 2011, 02:25 AM	#5
fjyang ninjette.org member Name: Frank Location: Pasadena Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 87 Ninja 250, 90 Ninja ZX750R, GPZ 900r, 02 Moto Guzzi LeMans, 95 Triumph Speed Triple Posts: 121	I got the Diablo 110/70/16 front and due to the narrow rim size it does pinch a little so I'll never get to use that edge rubber unless I'm scraping my bars. If you go with 100 size I think I'll actually have a bigger contact patch then with the 110. Forget the scooter label, once broken in (100 miles), they just stick and gives really good feedback and not vague like others. I never feel the tires are holding me back and let me push the bike as far as I want to go. Do hold your judgement until its broken in as the first 50 miles makes you wonder if you make the right choice, after 100 miles you'll be laughing every corner.

June 21st, 2011, 12:08 PM	#6
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Actually, looking at thigns on the Pirelli site, the 110 is approved for the 2.15 inch rim. I'm running the Diablo 100 on there now, and they def have a much rounder profile than some of the other tires I've ridden.

June 23rd, 2011, 09:05 PM	#7
fjyang ninjette.org member Name: Frank Location: Pasadena Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 87 Ninja 250, 90 Ninja ZX750R, GPZ 900r, 02 Moto Guzzi LeMans, 95 Triumph Speed Triple Posts: 121	One thing I do know for sure if you mount the 110 Diablo is that you'll never get to use the edge rubber compared to the 130 rear rubber. Yes it will fit and I was thinking as you along the lines that its only $5 more... compare to 100's. If your goal is to get more contact area with 110's I don't think you're going to get it with this tire. I'm going to ride my 110's till it wears out unless you want to swap The rim on my 86-87 are the same as 88-07 250's just 3 spoke pattern and 2.15 so its the same.