quick question i am off for work about lifting front of the bike

reaperw · January 11th, 2012, 10:03 AM

I have the rear on the rear stand and i dont have the front stand never thought i would need it.Now i need to lift the front up so i can get the tire off.Is it safe to use a car jack and a piece of wood under where the shock backet is while on rear stand.I mean just long enought to slide front tire out then rest forks on blocks with wood underneath the forks.

.I dont want to be in the i drop my bike yet.I really dont want to be on here next week asking how to change a damae shock eithere.

Thanks guys

alex.s · January 11th, 2012, 10:12 AM

while on rear stand, carjack on the oil filter cover on the bottom of the engine. put a piece of wood between so you dont jack up the paint. put some weight on the rear of the bike so it doesn't teeter

Flying Pig · January 11th, 2012, 10:59 AM

Car jack + wood under stock headers. If you have aftermarket headers, I might worry, but the stock steel headers are strong enough. Plus, the headers extend out below fairings on pretty much every bike, so no need to remove the fairings to worry about crushing them either

Here's a pic with my old GS500 done in this same fashion. Couldn't use my front fork-lift stand since the forks came out, obviously.

dubojr1 · January 12th, 2012, 08:26 AM

Please, please, please be careful with these methods. When lifting the front by the engine/headers, the bike is balancing on the engine pretty good. The bike can easily be knocked off the rear stand sideways due to this balancing act. I for one lift the front of the bike with a hoist from the triple tree plate. Lifting from here only plants the rear of the bike on the rear stand even more. Works perfect if you have a hoisting method.

massacremasses · January 12th, 2012, 08:50 AM

more pics of methods? I have to do this to... I need to take my wheels off and only have a rear stand...

choneofakind · January 12th, 2012, 12:36 PM

from faq/ninja250.org

yes be careful when using these methods. Use a tie-down on each side of the triple and attach each of them to the rail for your garage door. Just take the slack out of them, don't actually make them carry weight. Weight is taken up by the car jack under the oil filter. The tie downs just stabilize the bike.

Felipe the Ant · January 12th, 2012, 01:25 PM

You should really hang it from something but when I took my wheel off I wheeled it up on a piece of wood, put the rear on jack stands, put concrete blocks and boards under both forks and then yanked the board out from under the front wheel. Just make sure the steering is straight or it'll lean, I had someone hold it upright while I had the wheel off.

Not perfect but it was easy and it worked, next time I'll probably build something

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 01:40 PM

Somthing like I did will post pic when I am done installing front tire most like to night

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Originally Posted by Felipe the Ant

You should really hang it from something but when I took my wheel off I wheeled it up on a piece of wood, put the rear on jack stands, put concrete blocks and boards under both forks and then yanked the board out from under the front wheel. Just make sure the steering is straight or it'll lean, I had someone hold it upright while I had the wheel off.

Not perfect but it was easy and it worked, next time I'll probably build something

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alex.s · January 12th, 2012, 02:01 PM

just use a neck tube stand next time. you will eventually take the forks off and will need it anyway

massacremasses · January 12th, 2012, 02:08 PM

I could probably make something out of steel tubing. quick someone give me the dimensions of how high I would need it to sit... and how wide ill go make one

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 07:24 PM

well everthing is done.Did rear tire then front.Its pretty easy not hard at all.Myabe i was just luckly but the rear was np,i was thinking the whole time about trying to line everything up.I held everything up and my dad just slide the axle in with out any problem.The most time it took was trying to figure out how to lift this bike to sit it on something.I just pick the front end up by lifting from the rim while my dad moved the blocks under the forks(thanks guys) I would say all in all maybe 1h15 min.This is removal and install time only.

DSC_0199.jpg DSC_0200.jpg DSC_0201.jpg DSC_0202.jpg DSC_0204.jpg

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 07:25 PM

sorry not the best pics but you get the point

DSC_0205.jpg

massacremasses · January 12th, 2012, 08:30 PM

what tires are those?

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 08:43 PM

110/70r17 and 130 70r17 michelin pilot activ,they look wider on the bike then the stock irc

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 08:47 PM

my irc were down to 3/32 in the rear and 4/32 in the front.With just over 20000km on them.

massacremasses · January 12th, 2012, 09:29 PM

they look good. how much did they run you?

I am debating what I want to do about mine since I feel dumb putting the stockers back on after I powder coat the rims as im going to pay someone to do it so I dont **** up the powder coating...

choneofakind · January 12th, 2012, 09:49 PM

Just get new tires while you've got everything taken apart. The only thing you'll regret is not getting the new tires sooner

massacremasses · January 12th, 2012, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Just get new tires while you've got everything taken apart. The only thing you'll regret is not getting the new tires sooner

I know but im cheap and these have less than 4k on em!

choneofakind · January 12th, 2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

I know but im cheap

Look at it as saving money on labor. Only do it once!

reaperw · January 12th, 2012, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

they look good. how much did they run you?

.

220 cad tax in from petes superbike but he is in montreal canada

motorcycle super store has them as well i think almost same price and there in usa

massacremasses · January 13th, 2012, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Look at it as saving money on labor. Only do it once!

yeah thats why im debating on it....

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaperw

220 cad tax in from petes superbike but he is in montreal canada

motorcycle super store has them as well i think almost same price and there in usa

the closest MSS is 75 miles away... I try to limit my trips down there unless im already going down there to work. So Id need to order them online then find a shop to put them on...

choneofakind · January 13th, 2012, 08:00 AM

do it! you won't regret it!! Tires on the ninjette are the one "upgrade" that is actually an upgrade that helps the bike in all aspects. It's like a whole new bike. I can't believe I didn't change mine out the day I got the bike. I've heard the IRC's are better than the pregen Dunrocks, but still.

massacremasses · January 13th, 2012, 10:09 AM

lol

we will see, wife just called I need to spend $250 on her teeth apparently :/ and her wisdom teeth need to come out soon too... So I guess I better start saving for that.. lol

reaperw · January 13th, 2012, 10:12 AM

well do what we did when we were younger tie a string to her tooth and the othere end to your axle problem solve

but your need the new tire to make sure it comes out clean

massacremasses · January 13th, 2012, 10:16 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ill let her know.

but yeah I do want new tires... ugh I might just hold off even powder coating them until I can get the new tires

reaperw · January 13th, 2012, 10:20 AM

dont take off the tire to coat them unless new tires are being put on.Just think about labour cost alone.It would then cost as much as your tires

massacremasses · January 13th, 2012, 11:47 AM

yeah thats why ive been debating it....

:/

I dont really feel like rocking an all black bike right now though.. lol but yeah I think Ill get some new tires before I powder coat them...

January 11th, 2012, 10:03 AM	#1
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	quick question i am off for work about lifting front of the bike I have the rear on the rear stand and i dont have the front stand never thought i would need it.Now i need to lift the front up so i can get the tire off.Is it safe to use a car jack and a piece of wood under where the shock backet is while on rear stand.I mean just long enought to slide front tire out then rest forks on blocks with wood underneath the forks..I dont want to be in the i drop my bike yet.I really dont want to be on here next week asking how to change a damae shock eithere. Thanks guys

January 11th, 2012, 10:12 AM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	while on rear stand, carjack on the oil filter cover on the bottom of the engine. put a piece of wood between so you dont jack up the paint. put some weight on the rear of the bike so it doesn't teeter __________________________________________________

January 11th, 2012, 10:59 AM	#3
Flying Pig Resident Lurker Name: Solomon Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): R6, Strom, 250R, CH80 Elite Posts: 78	Car jack + wood under stock headers. If you have aftermarket headers, I might worry, but the stock steel headers are strong enough. Plus, the headers extend out below fairings on pretty much every bike, so no need to remove the fairings to worry about crushing them either Here's a pic with my old GS500 done in this same fashion. Couldn't use my front fork-lift stand since the forks came out, obviously. __________________________________________________ When was the last time you checked your tire pressure?

January 12th, 2012, 08:26 AM	#4
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Please, please, please be careful with these methods. When lifting the front by the engine/headers, the bike is balancing on the engine pretty good. The bike can easily be knocked off the rear stand sideways due to this balancing act. I for one lift the front of the bike with a hoist from the triple tree plate. Lifting from here only plants the rear of the bike on the rear stand even more. Works perfect if you have a hoisting method. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

January 12th, 2012, 08:50 AM	#5
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	more pics of methods? I have to do this to... I need to take my wheels off and only have a rear stand... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 12th, 2012, 12:36 PM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	from faq/ninja250.org yes be careful when using these methods. Use a tie-down on each side of the triple and attach each of them to the rail for your garage door. Just take the slack out of them, don't actually make them carry weight. Weight is taken up by the car jack under the oil filter. The tie downs just stabilize the bike.

January 12th, 2012, 01:25 PM	#7
Felipe the Ant ninjette.org sage Name: . Location: . Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R SE GREEN! Posts: 562	You should really hang it from something but when I took my wheel off I wheeled it up on a piece of wood, put the rear on jack stands, put concrete blocks and boards under both forks and then yanked the board out from under the front wheel. Just make sure the steering is straight or it'll lean, I had someone hold it upright while I had the wheel off. Not perfect but it was easy and it worked, next time I'll probably build something __________________________________________________ Trust me, I'm a banana!

January 12th, 2012, 02:01 PM	#9
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	just use a neck tube stand next time. you will eventually take the forks off and will need it anyway __________________________________________________

January 12th, 2012, 02:08 PM	#10
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	I could probably make something out of steel tubing. quick someone give me the dimensions of how high I would need it to sit... and how wide ill go make one __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 12th, 2012, 07:24 PM	#11
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	well everthing is done.Did rear tire then front.Its pretty easy not hard at all.Myabe i was just luckly but the rear was np,i was thinking the whole time about trying to line everything up.I held everything up and my dad just slide the axle in with out any problem.The most time it took was trying to figure out how to lift this bike to sit it on something.I just pick the front end up by lifting from the rim while my dad moved the blocks under the forks(thanks guys) I would say all in all maybe 1h15 min.This is removal and install time only. DSC_0199.jpg DSC_0200.jpg DSC_0201.jpg DSC_0202.jpg DSC_0204.jpg

January 12th, 2012, 07:25 PM	#12
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	sorry not the best pics but you get the point DSC_0205.jpg

January 12th, 2012, 08:30 PM	#13
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	what tires are those? __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 12th, 2012, 08:43 PM	#14
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	110/70r17 and 130 70r17 michelin pilot activ,they look wider on the bike then the stock irc

January 12th, 2012, 08:47 PM	#15
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	my irc were down to 3/32 in the rear and 4/32 in the front.With just over 20000km on them.

January 12th, 2012, 09:29 PM	#16
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	they look good. how much did they run you? I am debating what I want to do about mine since I feel dumb putting the stockers back on after I powder coat the rims as im going to pay someone to do it so I dont **** up the powder coating... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 12th, 2012, 09:49 PM	#17
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Just get new tires while you've got everything taken apart. The only thing you'll regret is not getting the new tires sooner

January 13th, 2012, 08:00 AM	#22
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	do it! you won't regret it!! Tires on the ninjette are the one "upgrade" that is actually an upgrade that helps the bike in all aspects. It's like a whole new bike. I can't believe I didn't change mine out the day I got the bike. I've heard the IRC's are better than the pregen Dunrocks, but still.

January 13th, 2012, 10:09 AM	#23
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	lol we will see, wife just called I need to spend $250 on her teeth apparently :/ and her wisdom teeth need to come out soon too... So I guess I better start saving for that.. lol __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 13th, 2012, 10:12 AM	#24
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	well do what we did when we were younger tie a string to her tooth and the othere end to your axle problem solve but your need the new tire to make sure it comes out clean

January 13th, 2012, 10:16 AM	#25
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ill let her know. but yeah I do want new tires... ugh I might just hold off even powder coating them until I can get the new tires __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 13th, 2012, 10:20 AM	#26
reaperw ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: newmarket Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 191	dont take off the tire to coat them unless new tires are being put on.Just think about labour cost alone.It would then cost as much as your tires

January 13th, 2012, 11:47 AM	#27
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	yeah thats why ive been debating it.... :/ I dont really feel like rocking an all black bike right now though.. lol but yeah I think Ill get some new tires before I powder coat them... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

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