January 7th, 2020, 09:05 AM | #1 |
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Alternative Chain Lube
Most of you that have been riding a while have probably tried numerous different chain lubes over the years, like I have, and found that they all fly off and make a mess.
What do you guys think of using something like this - Hornady 1-shot - https://www.amazon.com/Hornady-99901...NsaWNrPXRydWU= In this test - http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667 - it topped 45 other lubes/corrosion inhibitors. Hornady 1-shot would provide excellent corrosion protection for the side plates as well as lubrication for the contact areas without being a heavy lube or wax that would fly off. My only hesitation would be compatibility with the o-ring material. I think I'll find an o-ring and soak it for a while to see if there is any effect. The article did test the products for their effect on polystyrene (Styrofoam) - Photo - Hornady 1-shot is in the 4th row down, 2nd from left - http://www.dayattherange.com/wp-cont...psf42cb59c.jpg It had no effect on polystyrene, which surprised me. Ran across this test of other solvents/lubes on chain o-rings - https://advrider.com/f/threads/chain...esults.345397/ Thoughts? |
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January 7th, 2020, 11:53 AM | #2 |
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Looks interesting. Lack of reactivity with polystyrene seem to indicate less reactive (more polar ?) compound which may be friendlier to O-rings.
I'm not sure ADV test's assumption that O-ring swelling being bad is necessarily correct. For lifetime of chain, 2-5 yrs, certain amount of evaporation and wear would occur with O-rings. I would think you'd want some compound that restored oils and elasticity to O-rings. Which would result in some swelling in short-term tests, but may actually exactly match natural shrinkage & wear 1:1 in long-term. I'd like to see some data on areas of wear on chain that creates worn-out stretch. - How much of wear is external on rollers (wear against sprockets). - How much of wear is internal on rollers. - How much wear is on inside & outside of bushings? - How much wear is on pins? I think once percentages of these areas are determined, we can see how various lubes can contribute to mitigating wear in those specific areas. I'm not sure popular belief that "chain is fully-sealed with O-rings anyway, can mostly ignore it" is correct either. Personally, I think frequency of chain-maintenance is probably equally or more important than kind of elixir used. I've had good results with WD-40 washing every 500-miles along with using Phil's Tenacious or Chain-L No5 oils. These seem to grip metal well and not fling-off along with having good lubrication properties. I'm going to try that Hornady-1, thanks! I think the "fling-off" thing is over-played, it depends upon how much you slather on initially. One to two drops per roller isn't going to make mess, but holding spray-nozzle on for 5-minutes straight as you spin rear-wheel on stand will create quite mess! Even one revolution of chain with spray-lubes I think is too much. I'll wipe off chain with rag after applying any spray-lube. |
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January 7th, 2020, 12:11 PM | #3 |
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i have only had chain wax fly off when i didnt let the wax sit up for an hour or two before riding.
i started out using 90w gear oil. now THAT STUFF FLIES OFF!!! |
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January 7th, 2020, 07:00 PM | #4 | |
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January 7th, 2020, 07:08 PM | #5 |
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DuPont Teflon
I have been using DuPont Teflon in the yellow can for years. It was in a blue can that Lowe’s used to carry. But they changed the formula and Lowe’s doesn’t carry the yellow can anymore. Certain Walmart’s still carry it. Most of my bikes had white rims, and I would get very little fling. I will try to find a picture of it.
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January 11th, 2020, 09:35 PM | #6 |
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Fort-9...fort-nine? Did a review of different chain lubricants, and his overall choice, was good ole gear oil was the winner of his tests. Just a statement about his obser ations. For what/how he tested, it made sense. Imhavent tried it yet, but I keep thinking about it.
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January 12th, 2020, 01:09 AM | #7 |
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I remember Honda’s recommendation for my VF back in ‘80s was 75w90 gear oil. That stuff does have ET/EP additives for lubrication where there is actual contact. Wonder what Honda suggests nowadays.
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January 12th, 2020, 06:41 AM | #8 | |
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This stuff? http://www.performancelubricantsusa....-lubricant.php
Seems reviewers indicate its formulae has changed since being taken over by Finish Line. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104972 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPY...ature=youtu.be While I don't have exact records since I've gone through so many chains through decades, I do seem to notice that gear-oil is only lube that consistently gets me +10K-miles out of chain & sprockets. I don't have to be fastidious about maintenance either. Drip some gear-oil on chain every other thank fill-up, clean every other month or so. That's it. |
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December 17th, 2020, 07:20 AM | #13 |
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Good discussion. I'm also curious what you guys use to clean the chain of old grease, oil and dirt, before applying whichever lube you use. Is it worth buying branded chain cleaners or do some of you just use plain old kerosene?
I found this test https://www.rideapart.com/features/3...eaner-is-best/ on chain cleaners. |
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I realize there is a ton of conflicting advice on the web. I just do what has proven to work well for me. I do believe that wiping a chain with a cloth to "clean" it doesn't do anything except force the gritty dirt between the side plates and under the rollers. When I start with a clean, non-greased chain and use Chainsaver, I don't get road grit sticking to it, so I really don't have to clean it very often. |
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The Cleaner and Lube is much thinner and dries without becoming tacky. |
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