DanMoto Exhaust installed 2012 250!!! - Page 4

NDspd · April 19th, 2012, 07:37 AM

So if I get a danmoto exhaust, what do I need to do to the bike to keep it running properly? Does it make it run too rich? I in essence need to know if I can add the slip-on without too much issue.

diablos991 · April 19th, 2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

So if I get a danmoto exhaust, what do I need to do to the bike to keep it running properly? Does it make it run too rich? I in essence need to know if I can add the slip-on without too much issue.

Increasing exhaust flow means that the engine is flowing more air; thus creating a lean condition.

Even if you are only adding a slip-on, you will need to adjust the carb (shim needle for a slip-on, rejet for a full exhaust)

massacremasses · April 19th, 2012, 08:58 AM

I didnt do anything.

Ninja250gurl · April 19th, 2012, 09:13 AM

I second Justin.. i didnt do anything either, and my bike runs just fine.

wicked300z · April 19th, 2012, 09:20 AM

It depends on the bike if you need to adjust anything. My bike stock ran great. I pulled the spark plugs and saw no signs of too lean (white) or too rich (dark carbon). Looked just right. When I installed the exhaust, bike still ran very strong. No decrease in performance. You might not need to do anything to your bike.

xSean13 · April 19th, 2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

So if I get a danmoto exhaust, what do I need to do to the bike to keep it running properly? Does it make it run too rich? I in essence need to know if I can add the slip-on without too much issue.

Yeah mine runs fine as well. There is a popping/backfiring noise when decelerating after installing the slip-on, but removing the Kleen Air system should fix or minimize it. I will be removing it tomorrow, so I'll get back regarding it.

wicked300z · April 19th, 2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja250gurl

I got my K&N fliter off amazon, it was under $40 if i remember correctly..

Cool. Thanks. I'll try that site.

Ninja250gurl · April 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Yeah mine runs fine as well. There is a popping/backfiring noise when decelerating after installing the slip-on, but removing the Kleen Air system should fix or minimize it. I will be removing it tomorrow, so I'll get back regarding it.

I have that popping sound as well, but i like it!! lol!

Ninja250gurl · April 19th, 2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wicked300z

Cool. Thanks. I'll try that site.

I just checked.. its $36.23

choneofakind · April 19th, 2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by diablos991

(shim needle for a slip-on, rejet for a full exhaust)

sorta.

larger jets if the bike doesn't pull as hard at WOT.
shim the needles if the midrange isn't smooth and strong because it's lean.

I found that my bike needed main jets that were one size larger than stock when I had slip-on and modded my intake lid (basically pulling the snorkel). The same was true for another guy with a newgen in my area (no snorkel, Yoshi slipon, aftermarket air filter, 100 mains, jet kit).

If you just pull the snorkle, or just add a slipon, the mains will be fine. If you do both, or both and an air filter, you need to test some main jets that are one size larger than stock.

making any changes to the jetting is "rejetting"

wicked300z · April 19th, 2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Yeah mine runs fine as well. There is a popping/backfiring noise when decelerating after installing the slip-on, but removing the Kleen Air system should fix or minimize it. I will be removing it tomorrow, so I'll get back regarding it.

When you installed your exhaust, did use sealant between the coupling and header pipes and between the can and coupler? You might have a leak and it creates the popping sound.

xSean13 · April 19th, 2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wicked300z

When you installed your exhaust, did use sealant between the coupling and header pipes and between the can and coupler? You might have a leak and it creates the popping sound.

I did not. And I have noticed a couple drops right when I turn the bike on, but nothing other than that.

choneofakind · April 19th, 2012, 09:41 AM

Drops?

The way to check for exhaust leaks is to just run your hand and your ear around the joints and listen/feel for excess sound/air coming from the joints. No leaks = no problems.

If your worried about popping, check the exhaust for leaks, and remove the kleen system.

xSean13 · April 19th, 2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

Drops?

The way to check for exhaust leaks is to just run your hand and your ear around the joints and listen/feel for excess sound/air coming from the joints. No leaks = no problems.

If your worried about popping, check the exhaust for leaks, and remove the kleen system.

Yeah there are just like 1 or 2 drops of water, I guess, on the ground when I turn the bike on, but that's it. I'm going to remove the Kleen system tomorrow & shim the needles...don't have time today. Will grab some rtv sealant if there's still popping.

massacremasses · April 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM

that may just be condensation...

xSean13 · April 19th, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

that may just be condensation...

Well actually I just went and started it up and looked, there was a leak on the upper part (idl what you call it) where it connects to the stock pipe and a little mist spray, but once it got warmed up nothing else was leaking (guess it could have just evaporated, thus no leak)

In other news, got a video of my exhaust...it sucks because it's just with my phone, so it's at least 5x louder in person.

Link to original page on YouTube.

wicked300z · April 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM

As long as it's not dark water drops. That would mean your bike is running too rich and excess carbon fuel is getting into the exhaust.

wicked300z · April 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Well actually I just went and started it up and looked, there was a leak on the upper part (idl what you call it) where it connects to the stock pipe and a little mist spray, but once it got warmed up nothing else was leaking (guess it could have just evaporated, thus no leak)

In other news, got a video of my exhaust...it sucks because it's just with my phone, so it's at least 5x louder in person.

Link to original page on YouTube.

sounds good.

xSean13 · April 19th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Just removed the Kleen system on my bike & shimmed the carbs with 2 washers each (not sure what size they were, but they fit nicely). It runs much smoother & the popping is reduced a whole lot, the remaining popping is most likely do to the exhaust leaks, as chrone mentioned. Got some rtv sealant for that.

NDspd · April 19th, 2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Yeah mine runs fine as well. There is a popping/backfiring noise when decelerating after installing the slip-on, but removing the Kleen Air system should fix or minimize it. I will be removing it tomorrow, so I'll get back regarding it.

So it's a toss up whether I need to do anything? I guess I'll find out if I do get a slip-on.

wicked300z · May 3rd, 2012, 06:46 PM

You definiately want to use the sealant. It'll make your slip on sound much better since the air flow will be what it was designed to flow. And no popping sound.

cmSAE · May 21st, 2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

the stock exhaust just sounds like a sewing machine

i literally compare it to a sewing machine all the time. but ive decided with my next paycheck, im getting the JISU with the baffle since everyone says its pretty loud. cant wait to put it on...i dont plan on shimming since i dont really have any problems with any flat spots as of now. cant wait

2012Rider · February 3rd, 2013, 09:42 AM

I'm looking to get one of these, but all I can find are the bigger bulkier ones, anyway you can tell me where you got this one?

saxnbass · February 3rd, 2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012Rider

I'm looking to get one of these, but all I can find are the bigger bulkier ones, anyway you can tell me where you got this one?

http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_US/zx-250...oduct-368.html

April 19th, 2012, 08:58 AM	#123
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	I didnt do anything. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

April 19th, 2012, 09:13 AM	#124
Ninja250gurl M@ry M@ry Name: Mary Location: Houston Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250 Red/Black Posts: 141	I second Justin.. i didnt do anything either, and my bike runs just fine. __________________________________________________ ~M@ry Beside me or behind me... real woman dont ride bt<h!*

April 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM	#135
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	that may just be condensation... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

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April 19th, 2012, 07:37 AM	#121
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	So if I get a danmoto exhaust, what do I need to do to the bike to keep it running properly? Does it make it run too rich? I in essence need to know if I can add the slip-on without too much issue.

April 19th, 2012, 09:20 AM	#125
wicked300z Rider of the Blue Comet Name: BAC Location: Jacksonville NC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja Posts: 33	It depends on the bike if you need to adjust anything. My bike stock ran great. I pulled the spark plugs and saw no signs of too lean (white) or too rich (dark carbon). Looked just right. When I installed the exhaust, bike still ran very strong. No decrease in performance. You might not need to do anything to your bike.

April 19th, 2012, 09:41 AM	#133
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Drops? The way to check for exhaust leaks is to just run your hand and your ear around the joints and listen/feel for excess sound/air coming from the joints. No leaks = no problems. If your worried about popping, check the exhaust for leaks, and remove the kleen system.

April 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM	#137
wicked300z Rider of the Blue Comet Name: BAC Location: Jacksonville NC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja Posts: 33	As long as it's not dark water drops. That would mean your bike is running too rich and excess carbon fuel is getting into the exhaust.

April 19th, 2012, 04:39 PM	#139
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Just removed the Kleen system on my bike & shimmed the carbs with 2 washers each (not sure what size they were, but they fit nicely). It runs much smoother & the popping is reduced a whole lot, the remaining popping is most likely do to the exhaust leaks, as chrone mentioned. Got some rtv sealant for that.

May 3rd, 2012, 06:46 PM	#141
wicked300z Rider of the Blue Comet Name: BAC Location: Jacksonville NC Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja Posts: 33	You definiately want to use the sealant. It'll make your slip on sound much better since the air flow will be what it was designed to flow. And no popping sound.

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2012Rider Waiting for Jiggles Name: Matt Location: Grass Valley Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Posts: 8	I'm looking to get one of these, but all I can find are the bigger bulkier ones, anyway you can tell me where you got this one?