He Did It On Purpose

[ilovejesus]

So I was approaching a round about (we have a clock tower in our town) and I was going 50 and had to slow down to 30.
Up ahead a little bit there was a corvette. It was later at night and there's no cars anywhere in sight so I figured he was going to drive past the yield sign like anyone else would.
So I look down to check my speedo because I wasn't sure what gear I was in so I couldn't determine the speed based off of engine sound, I look up and the guy slams on his brakes FOR NO REASON AT ALL 10 feet in front of the yield. I look up within 25 feet of him and hit the brakes. Lucky me, the next day I was going to buy some tires because I have like no tread, so my bike low sided and then the guy sped off.
My bikes fairings are trashed, along with my turn signals and mirrors and my brand new area p exhaust got scratched

So right now I have ordered some aftermarket fairings, flush mount turn signals and integrated turn signal mirrors. The new fairings look sweet. And I'm not going to have to repaint my tank =)

But overall, not a good day...

[alex.s]

What did you learn from the experience

[ilovejesus]

Don't assume =/

[CZroe]

I go up to every round-a-bout with my finger on the horn button (bike) or hand on the horn (cage) specifically to teach the other people how to use a round-a-bout. As soon as it looks like someone is about the treat it like a 4-way stop by stopping when there was no one to yield to, I lay on the horn. Not needing to stop is the WHOLE POINT of a round-a-bout and yet I see people mindlessly treating it like a 4-way stop day after day. Some people aren't just cluelessly stopping: They are actually sure that you are supposed to because they see everyone else doing it every day. I've even been honked at for "taking" someone else's turn.

You do have to understand that they aren't that common in most places in the USA and even if they are where you live it may be an out-of-towner encountering it for the first time. Expect them to stop, react accordingly, and then teach them not to in order to make things better for them and everyone else.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by CZroe

I go up to every round-a-bout with my finger on the horn button (bike) or hand on the horn (cage) specifically to teach the other people how to use a round-a-bout. As soon as it looks like someone is about the treat it like a 4-way stop by stopping when there was no one to yield to, I lay on the horn. It's the whole POINT and yet I see people mindlessly treating it like a 4-way stop day after day. I've even been honked at for "taking" someone else's turn.

You do have to understand that they aren't that common in most places and even if they are where you live it may be an out-of-towner encountering it for the first time. Expect them to stop, then teach them not to in order to make things better for everyone.

it amazes me how stupid some people can be... i dont have a horn but i like to yell at people... i find someone shaking their fist yelling at them offends them worse than a silly horn.


also, jesusguy. don't bother looking at your gauges.

[ilovejesus]

Yeah, Alex. Lesson learned. Do you guys want me to post the links of the stuff I'm getting?

[kooshbox]

Ouch. Good luck with the fix up!

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by ilovejesus

..........So I look down to check my speedo because I wasn't sure what gear I was in so I couldn't determine the speed based off of engine sound, I look up and the guy slams on his brakes FOR NO REASON AT ALL 10 feet in front of the yield. I look up within 25 feet of him and hit the brakes..........

Matthew,

You have been riding for just two months and have already had your first mishap.

I am very sorry to read about it, but it is kind of a normal thing for the first times of learning to ride.

I wouldn't ride at night if I still would have to look down to check my speedo to select a gear.

Try to read this book, available at many public libraries:

"Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well" by David L. Hough

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot...t+motorcycling

Your eyes must be looking far and forward 98% of the time you are riding.

Please be careful and learn all you can, you are only 17.

Best !

[ilovejesus]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Matthew,

You have been riding for just two months and have already had your first mishap.

I am very sorry to read about it, but it is kind of a normal thing for the first times of learning to ride.

I wouldn't ride at night if I still would have to look down to check my speedo to select a gear.

Try to read this book, available at many public libraries:

"Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well" by David L. Hough

http://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Mot...t+motorcycling

Your eyes must be looking far and forward 98% of the time you are riding.

Please be careful and learn all you can, you are only 17.

Best !

My name is David and I'm 18 but thanks for the info.

[lgk]

doesn't matter what he does, be ready for anything.

defend yourself at all times.

[xaple]

Where in florida?

Oh and i got called out of work today because my boss didn't want me driving my bike in this stormy winds xD

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by ilovejesus

My name is David and I'm 18 but thanks for the info.

Sorry David; Matthews is from Central Florida and I got confused.

The driver didn't do it on purpose, most of the drivers are just ignorant or distracted.

Keep an eye on them at all times and be ready for evasive maneuver or emergency braking.

[alex.s]

bhwahawhahhahahahaha omg


"comee're billy, i wanna tell you a story" --"my name is timmy, grampa"

sorry, i had to

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by alex.s

..........sorry, i had to

Just laugh, Jiggles, you will be as sharp as I am in forty more years of riding

[ilovejesus]

Originally Posted by xaple

Where in florida?

Jacksonville

[alex.s]

Babwwhahahahahahahahahaha

[Jiggles]

Hey so you realize if you didn't panic and lock up the brakes you wouldn't have crashed right?

Ok good.

[choneofakind]

...Hey Jiggles, how's that leg feel?

Of all people here, you know very well that it's always easier said than done to not panic in a situation like that.

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by CZroe

I go up to every round-a-bout with my finger on the horn button (bike) or hand on the horn (cage) specifically to teach the other people how to use a round-a-bout. As soon as it looks like someone is about the treat it like a 4-way stop by stopping when there was no one to yield to, I lay on the horn. Not needing to stop is the WHOLE POINT of a round-a-bout and yet I see people mindlessly treating it like a 4-way stop day after day. Some people aren't just cluelessly stopping: They are actually sure that you are supposed to because they see everyone else doing it every day. I've even been honked at for "taking" someone else's turn.

You do have to understand that they aren't that common in most places in the USA and even if they are where you live it may be an out-of-towner encountering it for the first time. Expect them to stop, react accordingly, and then teach them not to in order to make things better for them and everyone else.

roundabouts are very common here, but there are enough idiots who don't know how to use them.

Small ones become speedbumps, bigger ones the give way to your right (we drive on the left) rule is blatantly ignored & lane discipline just goes out the window.

I'll take them over a crossroad anyday

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

...Hey Jiggles, how's that leg feel?

Of all people here, you know very well that it's always easier said than done to not panic in a situation like that.

He didn't hit the car though, he did an old lemon

[choneofakind]

Doesn't matter. You're still a good example of how hard it is to stay calm and react during traffic surprises. Take it easy on the dude.

[Jiggles]

Don't you think it would be a good idea to call the guy on the false assumptions he has made so that this is avoided next time?

[alex.s]

well, i for one want to congratulate and welcome david to the club. can't say you're badass until you've crashed a motorcycle, right?

[akima]

Originally Posted by alex.s

well, i for one want to congratulate and welcome david to the club. can't say you're badass until you've crashed a motorcycle, right?

My crash was into a soft padded ditch. I barely scratched my fairings on the grass! Do I still count as badass?

[choneofakind]

Yes Sean, crashes are a learning experience. No way to learn without realizing what went wrong. But that doesn't mean you can't be realistic about it, without being that dude behin a keyboard who says something to the effect of, "oh it's simple, you're an idiot. Just sayin." It looks like he panicked and grabbed a lot of brake and lost it. That's an SR. Congrats to David, he's now experienced in what that SR feels like, and it won't be a surprise next time.

Akima, yes. Badass level 1 attained. Moar soft padded ditch crashes and you'll keep leveling up!

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by akima

My crash was into a soft padded ditch. I barely scratched my fairings on the grass! Do I still count as badass?

Yes. But i think that means we require pics of you throwing up the shocker.

[Jiggles]

Ok so, he thinks his bald tires caused the accident and so far no one has said no, thats not why the bike lowsided (unless of course it was wet out, in which case, dude, dafuq were you thinking!?)

He crashed because he grabbed too much front brake too quickly

[akima]

@Jiggles: your assessment seems reasonable to me. I'm guessing David grabbed the front brake really quickly. David: you've got to slowly and smoothly pull in the front lever.

Originally Posted by alex.s

throwing up the shocker.

What does this mean?

I have to be sick on my suspension?

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by akima

@Jiggles: your assessment seems reasonable to me. I'm guessing David grabbed the front brake really quickly. David: you've got to slowly and smoothly pull in the front lever.



What does this mean?

I have to be sick on my suspension?

2 in the pink, one in the stink

cmon akima

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Ok so, he thinks his bald tires caused the accident and so far no one has said no, thats not why the bike lowsided (unless of course it was wet out, in which case, dude, dafuq were you thinking!?)

He crashed because he grabbed too much front brake too quickly

And he did THAT because he got distracted and needed to emergency-brake, which he admitted to and understands. He learned one lesson that will avoid getting into that particular situation ("don't assume"), but there are many more places where proper emergency-braking may be needed, so we agree that he needs to learn that one too. That said, it is possible to be in a situation where it is too late to stop without either locking up the tire and crashing into the other vehicle or running into the other vehicle while upright and braking with full traction. It's usually only possible to get in that situation by not paying attention (entirely dependent on when you became aware) or out-riding your headlights/visibility, but not always.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by akima

@Jiggles: your assessment seems reasonable to me. I'm guessing David grabbed the front brake really quickly. David: you've got to slowly and smoothly pull in the front lever.



What does this mean?

I have to be sick on my suspension?

Allow Chris and company to demonstrate:

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by CZroe

That said, it is possible to be in a situation where it is too late to stop without either locking up the tire and crashing into the other vehicle or running into the other vehicle while upright and braking with full traction.

I call bullshit!

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I call bullshit!

OK, how is 6" away at 70MPH?

Not possible to stop in 6" from 70MPH using tire traction alone. Maybe if you put your feet down.

[Jiggles]

^ Someone explain to the slow guy on the slow bike plz

[lgk]

lol

[alex.s]

bike will flip well before you lose traction or lock up the front trying to brake... if thats not the case, there is either something wrong with your braking technique, your brakes, or you drive on ice or something.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by CZroe

Allow Chris and company to demonstrate:

That picture still makes me crack up. I had no idea he was doing that until after I looked at the picture.

[Dragonracer76]

Originally Posted by ilovejesus

Don't assume =/

bingo.

[ilovejesus]

Jiggles must be 65 and has been riding for 47 years because this guy doesn't make any mistakes apparently. As a rider for 2 months I could sure use the wisdom from a guy with that much experience being perfect.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by ilovejesus

Jiggles must be 65 and has been riding for 47 years because this guy doesn't make any mistakes apparently. As a rider for 2 months I could sure use the wisdom from a guy with that much experience being perfect.

Yo, I'm not the one who thinks that bald tires caused a lowside now am I? And since you didn't hit the car even after your bike slid on the ground we know you had plenty of time to stop. Your OP comes off as blaming the car while in reality he didn't do anything wrong.

And yes, na na na boo boo, I'm better than you