Performance Carb?

Brandon757 · May 10th, 2011, 08:13 PM

Anyone know of a performance carb or way to pull more horsepower besides an exhaust? Assuming money wasnt an issue and dont want/cant move to a 600.

scotty · May 10th, 2011, 08:27 PM

Rejet? Pod filter?

There was someone who bought a aftermarket carb for our bikes, i'm not sure where they found it. I remeber it being like $1,000though. Rejetting can do a lot for you.

sombo · May 11th, 2011, 06:29 AM

There is a carburetor set from Keihin (the manufacturer of the ninjette stock carb) that is meant as a performance carb set for the ninjette. It's $455, prejetted and is ready to bolt in.

Keihin CR31 carburetor.

randomwalk101 · May 11th, 2011, 07:07 AM

instead of dropping $500 on another carb...I would get the EFI kit.

bdavison · May 11th, 2011, 07:14 AM

EFI, and a power commander.

scotty · May 11th, 2011, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

There is a carburetor set from Keihin (the manufacturer of the ninjette stock carb) that is meant as a performance carb set for the ninjette. It's $455, prejetted and is ready to bolt in.

Keihin CR31 carburetor.

Oh, I was way off on the price!

I thought it was more than that. lol

HKr1 · May 11th, 2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

instead of dropping $500 on another carb...I would get the EFI kit.

I would take the CR's

randomwalk101 · May 11th, 2011, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

I would take the CR's

Welcome to yesterday.

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon757

Anyone know of a performance carb or way to pull more horsepower besides an exhaust? Assuming money wasnt an issue and dont want/cant move to a 600.

how long have you been riding?

Racer x · May 11th, 2011, 01:38 PM

I have used the CR Specials from Sudco for two years. The ease of adjustment and performance is awsome.

ungluck · May 11th, 2011, 02:18 PM

this could be fun..

Brandon757 · May 11th, 2011, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

how long have you been riding?

A couple months.

And What kind of difference does the CR31 make over stock? Any idea?

Would it be worth it?

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon757

A couple months.

what exactly makes you think you need more power? where does the bike fall short for you?

Brandon757 · May 11th, 2011, 04:06 PM

I've just become content with it. Miss the "Oh ****" feeling when riding around. Best way I can explain it :|

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 04:11 PM

get you one of these

Brandon757 · May 11th, 2011, 04:19 PM

If only I had the money. Well for the performance, not the looks lol. I cant get out of the loan I have now for the 250 so im looking for something to do to it! I can never leave **** alone.

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 04:22 PM

so, what have you done so far to help the performance of your bike?

Brandon757 · May 11th, 2011, 04:24 PM

All I have done to my bike is the bridgestone's. 150/60 rear & 130/70 front. The rest is completely stock. Just performance wise all I hear is to rejet & exhaust. That just cant be it.

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 04:34 PM

well, if your bike is stock, no wonder you're complaining about the power.

don't knock the mods until you've tried them. it turns the 250R from a mild beginners bike into a capable, great running 250. you'll never get the bike to pull your arms out of their sockets from acceleration, no matter what you add to the bike.

the real skill with the ninjette is to work on keeping your corner speeds as high as you can. you'll be surprised on how much "performance" this bike can deliver when ridden well in the twisties. if you have a need for speed, perhaps a day at the track can open your eyes as to the performance potential of your bike. find one in your area and sign up.

... and I sure hope you really don't have a 130/70 front tire and that was just a typo?

TnNinjaGirl · May 11th, 2011, 04:37 PM

I'm with kkim, try some of the performance mods and see where that puts you. The bike will never be "holy s***" fast. It is much more of a turner than a straight line cruise missile. Though, you will be AMAZED how you can embarrass dude on 600s or liter bikes in the corners, just don't expect to win a drag race... with anyone.... or a snail....

Brandon757 · May 11th, 2011, 04:40 PM

120/70 .. Sorry Lol. & about it being stock I am just reading around checking things out trying to see what all can be done before I start dropping money

kkim · May 11th, 2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon757

120/70 .. Sorry Lol. & about it being stock I am just reading around checking things out trying to see what all can be done before I start dropping money

I would do the mods in stages so you can see what each brings. some of the mods can be done for literally pennies or better yet, free!! read up... there's lots to do to keep you happy/busy if you're truly the type that can't leave things alone.

setasai · May 11th, 2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

I would do the mods in stages so you can see what each brings. some of the mods can be done for literally pennies or better yet, free!! read up... there's lots to do to keep you happy/busy if you're truly the type that can't leave things alone.

Keyword, STAGES. It's a major pain to do a bunch of mods and then realize something doesnt work right and spend another month troubleshooting them. First mod, shim the **** needles. You'll be surprised how different the engine pulls and it costs under $5. Assuming you dont mess up something more expensive (ie. diaphram).

almost40 · May 12th, 2011, 09:03 AM

I would use the money to pay on my loan.
That being said. Pull the snorkel (free) shim the needles ($5) find a used stock muffler and modify it. (??$50??) enjoy while paying off the loan. OWN the bike, then decide where you would like to spend your money. Mods?? bigger machine?? new car??

TnNinjaGirl · May 12th, 2011, 10:39 AM

Has anyone thought about putting a Weber 40 DCOE on a Ninja?

sledneckrider · May 14th, 2011, 02:04 PM

i just put Two Brothers Black Series Exhaust on mine yesterday and it made a BIG difference! Obviously not scary fast but it made it very responsive and smooth. Not to mention loud and obnoxious which is just the way i like it!!

CC Cowboy · May 14th, 2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

get you one of these

Not to be too much on a noobie but how do you turn if your front wheel is in the air?

Is that a 600?

kkim · May 14th, 2011, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Not to be too much on a noobie but how do you turn if your front wheel is in the air?

Is that a 600?

with yo azz, yo!! 600... thaz a 2500, nooooob!!!! 10x a 250!!! 250s are slo azz beootches!!!

loud pipes rulz, 2!!!

DmbShn41 · June 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM

I'm with this dude....^

mickie · June 5th, 2011, 02:27 PM

You've all totally confused me now

are all ninja 250's carbed over the ocean?
mines fuel injected!
and isn't that bike 2 posts up a hayabusa? the one on our drive is 1400cc and I thought that was the only size they came in or has that one been tweeked a bit

CC Cowboy · June 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickie

You've all totally confused me now

are all ninja 250's carbed over the ocean?
mines fuel injected!
and isn't that bike 2 posts up a hayabusa? the one on our drive is 1400cc and I thought that was the only size they came in or has that one been tweeked a bit

I think they do it at the factory!

sombo · June 5th, 2011, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickie

You've all totally confused me now

are all ninja 250's carbed over the ocean?
mines fuel injected!
and isn't that bike 2 posts up a hayabusa? the one on our drive is 1400cc and I thought that was the only size they came in or has that one been tweeked a bit

In the US the ninjette only comes carb'd. However over in most European countries it won't pass their higher emission standards with the carbs, which is why they are fuel injected over there. Actually I think in most countries other then US it might not be able to pass emissions with the carbs lol.

Yes that would be the Hayabusa. Early models were 1300cc but newer models are now 1400cc. I think the earlier poster was just being a smartass lol.

Alex · June 5th, 2011, 06:03 PM

The FI ones are for the UK, some parts of Europe (not all), and I believe Japan. The rest of the world (not just the US) gets the carbed version for now.

sombo · June 5th, 2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

The FI ones are for the UK, some parts of Europe (not all), and I believe Japan. The rest of the world (not just the US) gets the carbed version for now.

I know we aren't the only ones that get it alex, I was just being a little sarcastic cause of how many people think the US has higher emission standards then most of the world. Kawasaki said flat out that because of the EU emission standards they can not offer the carb'd version in any countries belonging to the EU. The carb'd version just will not pass the current EU emission standards. However, it has no problems passing here in the US.

Alex · June 5th, 2011, 08:42 PM

Yup. Emissions laws are complex. One of the reasons it can pass here in the US is that the specs are different for different cc classes, and less than 250cc has less stringent requirements than larger bikes, at least up through the 2011 model year. Things always move forwards, though, and at some point it's practically inevitable that we'll be moving to the FI version. Whether it's next year or 5 years from now, who knows...

May 10th, 2011, 08:13 PM	#1
Brandon757 Berrrandon Name: Brandon Location: Virginia Beach, Va Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 26	Performance Carb? Anyone know of a performance carb or way to pull more horsepower besides an exhaust? Assuming money wasnt an issue and dont want/cant move to a 600.

May 10th, 2011, 08:27 PM	#2
scotty ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Scott Location: Carlise Ohio Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): Yahama v star 650 classic Posts: A lot.	Rejet? Pod filter? There was someone who bought a aftermarket carb for our bikes, i'm not sure where they found it. I remeber it being like $1,000though. Rejetting can do a lot for you. __________________________________________________ Last futzed with by scotty; May 11th, 2011 at 09:27 AM.

May 12th, 2011, 09:03 AM	#24
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	I would use the money to pay on my loan. That being said. Pull the snorkel (free) shim the needles ($5) find a used stock muffler and modify it. (??$50??) enjoy while paying off the loan. OWN the bike, then decide where you would like to spend your money. Mods?? bigger machine?? new car?? __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

June 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM	#29
DmbShn41 Wannabe Reborn Name: Unregistered Location: Cincy Ohio Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 302	I'm with this dude....^ __________________________________________________ " If you're here to show off and prove that your crotch rocket is faster than my Harley, you can leave now. "

June 5th, 2011, 06:03 PM	#33
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The FI ones are for the UK, some parts of Europe (not all), and I believe Japan. The rest of the world (not just the US) gets the carbed version for now. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 11th, 2011, 06:29 AM	#3
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	There is a carburetor set from Keihin (the manufacturer of the ninjette stock carb) that is meant as a performance carb set for the ninjette. It's $455, prejetted and is ready to bolt in. Keihin CR31 carburetor.

May 11th, 2011, 07:07 AM	#4
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	instead of dropping $500 on another carb...I would get the EFI kit.

May 11th, 2011, 07:14 AM	#5
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	EFI, and a power commander.

May 11th, 2011, 01:38 PM	#10
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I have used the CR Specials from Sudco for two years. The ease of adjustment and performance is awsome.

May 11th, 2011, 02:18 PM	#11
ungluck sleeper Name: chris Location: Hawaii Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '10 690 duke Posts: 558	this could be fun..

May 11th, 2011, 04:06 PM	#14
Brandon757 Berrrandon Name: Brandon Location: Virginia Beach, Va Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 26	I've just become content with it. Miss the "Oh ****" feeling when riding around. Best way I can explain it :\|

May 11th, 2011, 04:11 PM	#15
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	get you one of these

May 11th, 2011, 04:19 PM	#16
Brandon757 Berrrandon Name: Brandon Location: Virginia Beach, Va Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 26	If only I had the money. Well for the performance, not the looks lol. I cant get out of the loan I have now for the 250 so im looking for something to do to it! I can never leave **** alone.

May 11th, 2011, 04:22 PM	#17
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	so, what have you done so far to help the performance of your bike?

May 11th, 2011, 04:24 PM	#18
Brandon757 Berrrandon Name: Brandon Location: Virginia Beach, Va Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 26	All I have done to my bike is the bridgestone's. 150/60 rear & 130/70 front. The rest is completely stock. Just performance wise all I hear is to rejet & exhaust. That just cant be it.

May 11th, 2011, 04:34 PM	#19
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	well, if your bike is stock, no wonder you're complaining about the power. don't knock the mods until you've tried them. it turns the 250R from a mild beginners bike into a capable, great running 250. you'll never get the bike to pull your arms out of their sockets from acceleration, no matter what you add to the bike. the real skill with the ninjette is to work on keeping your corner speeds as high as you can. you'll be surprised on how much "performance" this bike can deliver when ridden well in the twisties. if you have a need for speed, perhaps a day at the track can open your eyes as to the performance potential of your bike. find one in your area and sign up. ... and I sure hope you really don't have a 130/70 front tire and that was just a typo?

May 11th, 2011, 04:37 PM	#20
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	I'm with kkim, try some of the performance mods and see where that puts you. The bike will never be "holy s***" fast. It is much more of a turner than a straight line cruise missile. Though, you will be AMAZED how you can embarrass dude on 600s or liter bikes in the corners, just don't expect to win a drag race... with anyone.... or a snail....

May 11th, 2011, 04:40 PM	#21
Brandon757 Berrrandon Name: Brandon Location: Virginia Beach, Va Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 26	120/70 .. Sorry Lol. & about it being stock I am just reading around checking things out trying to see what all can be done before I start dropping money

May 12th, 2011, 10:39 AM	#25
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	Has anyone thought about putting a Weber 40 DCOE on a Ninja?

May 14th, 2011, 02:04 PM	#26
sledneckrider ninjette.org member Name: Jordan Location: Menifee, CA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): "Hopper" 2011 SE Ninja 250R Posts: 46	i just put Two Brothers Black Series Exhaust on mine yesterday and it made a BIG difference! Obviously not scary fast but it made it very responsive and smooth. Not to mention loud and obnoxious which is just the way i like it!!

June 5th, 2011, 02:27 PM	#30
mickie ninjette.org newbie Name: mickie Location: uk Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250 (black) Posts: 8	You've all totally confused me now are all ninja 250's carbed over the ocean? mines fuel injected! and isn't that bike 2 posts up a hayabusa? the one on our drive is 1400cc and I thought that was the only size they came in or has that one been tweeked a bit

June 5th, 2011, 08:42 PM	#35
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Yup. Emissions laws are complex. One of the reasons it can pass here in the US is that the specs are different for different cc classes, and less than 250cc has less stringent requirements than larger bikes, at least up through the 2011 model year. Things always move forwards, though, and at some point it's practically inevitable that we'll be moving to the FI version. Whether it's next year or 5 years from now, who knows... __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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