R6 vs Ninja 250

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 05:27 PM

So after just a week of riding my R6, today I asked a friend to let me ride his ninja 250. Right away I realized how much more comfortable the ninja is than my R6. I rode away and before reaching 40 I had to shift 3 times which kind of gets annoying after a while. I also forgot how small the ninja is, real easy to turn with and walk. The only thing that the Ninja needs is a bit more power and would be perfect.

Trailerboy531 · July 26th, 2012, 05:34 PM

we know.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM

If you knew how to ride it you would only have shifted once

Dopamine · July 26th, 2012, 05:45 PM

Any thread that Robertkh100 makes and you guys comment is pure entertainment... Let me get some beer and see how this pans out

strytnyne · July 26th, 2012, 05:47 PM

Old Lemon · July 26th, 2012, 05:50 PM

Ninjettes redline at 30 mph (mine anyway) in first gear. You are doing it wrong

strytnyne · July 26th, 2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Ninjettes redline at 30 mph (mine anyway) in first gear. You are doing it wrong

he said shifting once , would mean hes in 2nd gear.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by strytnyne

he said shifting once , would mean hes in 2nd gear.

He said shifting 3 times, meaning he's in 4th @ 40

dirty nasty · July 26th, 2012, 05:59 PM

The bike doesn't need more power, you're just a crappy rider.

I dunno, maybe try getting off the highway or beach boulevard and finding a road with some turns in it? I'd love to see you even ride that R6 at 4/10ths.

But of course a Ninja 250 is going to be more comfortable. An R6 is a RACING MACHINE, not a toy for a child like you. Hell, I don't even know why they sell super sport bikes for road use in the first place. Someone on here once said riding one on the street is like being a brain surgeon and applying at the hospital for a janitorial position. Couldn't be any more accurate. Even the first super sports were much more than one could ever use, or need on public roads. A Ninja 250 is more than anyone needs. I can get to speeds that will have me thrown in jail in no time flat on my 250.

Like I said, include me in your will! I want that R6 for a track toy after you wad it up for me. Then I can build it to what I please.

July 26th, 2012, 06:15 PM

Man, you guys really hate this kid lol

dirty nasty · July 26th, 2012, 06:16 PM

Nah, we were looking out for his safety. I don't want to see a 15 year old die. He's just our resident dunce.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by codestp202

Man, you guys really hate this kid lol

I actually like robert a lot, he brings me lots of entertainment on this forum and I would be saddened if he left.

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Originally Posted by dirty nasty

He's just our resident dunce.

Sticky: How not to start your motorcycling career

-Link to: All of roberts posts

edxmon · July 26th, 2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Ninjettes redline at 30 mph (mine anyway) in first gear. You are doing it wrong

DAWT.

When I first got mine I was too scared to shift, so I would start it in 1st and ride around the block just using the clutch and brake. WTF 40mph in 4th

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

He said shifting 3 times, meaning he's in 4th @ 40

I like cruising at 6k rpms, i dont redline the ninja because that requires ear plugs. Although it does make the other lawn mowers in the neighborhood sound lame.

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Originally Posted by dirty nasty

The bike doesn't need more power, you're just a crappy rider.

I dunno, maybe try getting off the highway or beach boulevard and finding a road with some turns in it? I'd love to see you even ride that R6 at 4/10ths.

But of course a Ninja 250 is going to be more comfortable. An R6 is a RACING MACHINE, not a toy for a child like you. Hell, I don't even know why they sell super sport bikes for road use in the first place. Someone on here once said riding one on the street is like being a brain surgeon and applying at the hospital for a janitorial position. Couldn't be any more accurate. Even the first super sports were much more than one could ever use, or need on public roads. A Ninja 250 is more than anyone needs. I can get to speeds that will have me thrown in jail in no time flat on my 250.

Like I said, include me in your will! I want that R6 for a track toy after you wad it up for me. Then I can build it to what I please.

you're cool

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I actually like robert a lot, he brings me lots of entertainment on this forum and I would be saddened if he left.

Sticky: How not to start your motorcycling career

-Link to: All of roberts posts

Real talk, I like you a lot too. You make me laugh

Old Lemon · July 26th, 2012, 06:47 PM

Dam you got dog ears if you need ear plugs to listen to a stock exhaust at 13k rpm

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Dam you got dog ears if you need ear plugs to listen to a stock exhaust at 13k rpm

who said im not a dog, dog?

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

But of course a Ninja 250 is going to be more comfortable. An R6 is a RACING MACHINE, not a toy for a child like you. Hell, I don't even know why they sell super sport bikes for road use in the first place. Someone on here once said riding one on the street is like being a brain surgeon and applying at the hospital for a janitorial position. Couldn't be any more accurate.

Hey I remember that guy

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Riding a 600 on the street is like a brain surgeon applying for a janitor position at a hospital.

I would only ever get a 600 if I planned on taking it to the track or hitting the twisties.

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

i dont redline the ninja because that requires ear plugs.

lolwut? That bike is not loud, you can't even hear it redlining at 65mph on the highway

Jono · July 26th, 2012, 06:53 PM

Well this is a pointless thread just like all the other threads that Robert starts.

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

Well this is a pointless thread just like all the other threads that Robert starts.

posting in a pointless thread is pointless

xSean13 · July 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM

Once I graduate and join the Air Force, I'll post the differences between the Diamond DA40 we use at my school for pilot training & the T-6 Texan (or T38) used by the Air Force for training! Just in case the differences aren't obvious.

Jono · July 26th, 2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

posting in a pointless thread is pointless

Which is why I posted a pointless sentence. To go along with this already pointless thread.

Oops. I did it again.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

Well this is a pointless thread just like all the other threads that Robert starts.

5 star thread bro

Jono · July 26th, 2012, 07:03 PM

Just made it a 3 star thread! Boom.

areifel · July 26th, 2012, 07:06 PM

I vote Robert should move up to the liter class.

choneofakind · July 26th, 2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Dam you got dog ears if you need ear plugs to listen to a stock exhaust at 13k rpm

try it! Its glorious!! That's the only thing I miss about my stock exhaust was the peace and quiet. I could sneak in and out of the house without waking my parents too

. I wish i had gotten an area p with the quiet core.

I have good hearing. I like the idea of keeping it that way
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ARc · July 26th, 2012, 07:48 PM

to OP, TIL vtec doesn't kick in until 9k rpm

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by areifel

I vote Robert should move up to the liter class.

you're a smart man

dirty nasty · July 26th, 2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertkh100

I like cruising at 6k rpms, i dont redline the ninja because that requires ear plugs. Although it does make the other lawn mowers in the neighborhood sound lame.

you're cool

Awwww, your poor ears hurt.

Seriously? The solution here is to get a better helmet. Any super sport is going to be louder at cruising speed than a Ninja 250 will ever be. You contradicted yourself completely. First you complain about it sounding like a lawn mower, then about how loud it is? Most of the hearing damage you will receive riding a motorcycle will be from wind. It's constantly beating on your ears in a tight space. This is why a quality helmet is important. They're not so bad in that aspect. Cheap ones are (HJC...I know because I'm ashamed to wear one). Also, for long highway rides pop in some ear buds. I prefer the type with volume control on the cord. This way it keeps the wind out of your ears and you get to listen to music and adjust the volume as needed. It's surprisingly easy to hear what's going on around you if you have the volume adjust headphones and turn them all the way down.

And yes, I am much cooler than you are. I actually pay for my own motorcycle and insurance and I'm debt free.

And forget about a liter bike. What you need is a 500cc 4 cylinder 2-stroke GP machine. Or a TZ 750. Them's fast.

robertkh100 · July 26th, 2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

Awwww, your poor ears hurt.

Seriously? The solution here is to get a better helmet. Any super sport is going to be louder at cruising speed than a Ninja 250 will ever be. You contradicted yourself completely. First you complain about it sounding like a lawn mower, then about how loud it is? Most of the hearing damage you will receive riding a motorcycle will be from wind. It's constantly beating on your ears in a tight space. This is why a quality helmet is important. They're not so bad in that aspect. Cheap ones are (HJC...I know because I'm ashamed to wear one). Also, for long highway rides pop in some ear buds. I prefer the type with volume control on the cord. This way it keeps the wind out of your ears and you get to listen to music and adjust the volume as needed. It's surprisingly easy to hear what's going on around you if you have the volume adjust headphones and turn them all the way down.

And yes, I am much cooler than you are. I actually pay for my own motorcycle and insurance and I'm debt free.

And forget about a liter bike. What you need is a 500cc 4 cylinder 2-stroke GP machine. Or a TZ 750. Them's fast.

hey look you actually gave me some real advice thanks, I have a shoei

Jono · July 26th, 2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

hey look you actually gave me some real advice thanks, I have a shoei

Of course you do.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 10:15 PM

Nice, Shoei's are good for crashing

amhik

dirty nasty · July 27th, 2012, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by robertkh100

hey look you actually gave me some real advice thanks, I have a shoei

We've all given you much better advice. Still, the best advice I gave you is put me in your will. Dedicate one Yamaha R6 to Karl.

choneofakind · July 27th, 2012, 04:29 AM

Earplugs are definitely a better solution than a new helmet. No matter how "good" of a helmet you have or how "quiet" it is, a loud helmet with earplugs will still be quieter than a quiet helmet with unprotected ears. Earplugs only cost $2.00 for a re-usable pair that will last you a while vs $300 for a quieter helmet and work better anyways. Earbuds are a bad idea; they just add more noise to cover up the noise that damages your hearing in the first place.
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blackoutt · July 27th, 2012, 09:00 AM

Yay for R6's! (but their forums suck)

Edit: 250R's are cool too.

alex.s · July 27th, 2012, 10:44 AM

the question of "does the bike have enough power" can be answered as such:
you cant put down any more power than the power it takes to break loose the rear, right? so... does the bike have enough power to break the tire loose while fully leaned over at the speed you are going?

there's a qualifier to that question... the speed you are going. lets assume <65mph. top of 3rd gear. so can you break loose the rear tire in 1st at full lean? yes. 2nd? yes. 3rd? its hard, but ive seen people do it on the race track.

so the answer to your question is, yes. the 250 has more than enough power for legal street speeds. unless you are trying to drag race.

choneofakind · July 27th, 2012, 11:40 AM

I've never seen a 250 break the rear loose... I want to see that someday
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alex.s · July 27th, 2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

I've never seen a 250 break the rear loose... I want to see that someday
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lol watch darrens videos. he slides both tires

csmith12 · July 27th, 2012, 11:51 AM

Darren who? Link maybe plz.

edxmon · July 27th, 2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

lol watch darrens videos. he slides both tires

reading this made me literally think: Yup, like they say "power is nothing without controll".

I'm sure if any one of us really got to a certain level of control and knowledge of our bike we'd all be surprised at what it CAN do.

July 26th, 2012, 05:27 PM	#1
robertkh100 ninjette.org member Name: Robert Location: los angeles Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250(Totaled), 2007 Yamaha R6(Sold), 2013 Ninja 300 Special Edition W/O ABS Posts: 168	R6 vs Ninja 250 So after just a week of riding my R6, today I asked a friend to let me ride his ninja 250. Right away I realized how much more comfortable the ninja is than my R6. I rode away and before reaching 40 I had to shift 3 times which kind of gets annoying after a while. I also forgot how small the ninja is, real easy to turn with and walk. The only thing that the Ninja needs is a bit more power and would be perfect.

July 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM	#3
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	If you knew how to ride it you would only have shifted once __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 26th, 2012, 07:48 PM	#27
ARc Revolver Wario Name: Jeffrey Location: La Palma, CA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250 Posts: 198 Logo Dude	to OP, TIL vtec doesn't kick in until 9k rpm __________________________________________________

July 26th, 2012, 10:15 PM	#32
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Nice, Shoei's are good for crashing amhik __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 27th, 2012, 09:00 AM	#35
blackoutt ninjette.org member Name: Phil Location: Southern IN Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 R6, 08 250R Posts: 87	Yay for R6's! (but their forums suck) Edit: 250R's are cool too. __________________________________________________ YEAH BUDDY!

July 26th, 2012, 05:34 PM	#2
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	we know.

July 26th, 2012, 05:45 PM	#4
Dopamine Ninja on a Ninja member Name: Jay Location: The land Down under Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 52	Any thread that Robertkh100 makes and you guys comment is pure entertainment... Let me get some beer and see how this pans out

July 26th, 2012, 05:47 PM	#5
strytnyne ninjette.org member Name: Toan Location: Port Arthur Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 250r Posts: 10

July 26th, 2012, 05:50 PM	#6
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Ninjettes redline at 30 mph (mine anyway) in first gear. You are doing it wrong

July 26th, 2012, 05:59 PM	#9
dirty nasty ninjette.org sage Name: Karl Location: MA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Kwak Ninja 250 and 1998 Yamaha YZ400F Posts: 534	The bike doesn't need more power, you're just a crappy rider. I dunno, maybe try getting off the highway or beach boulevard and finding a road with some turns in it? I'd love to see you even ride that R6 at 4/10ths. But of course a Ninja 250 is going to be more comfortable. An R6 is a RACING MACHINE, not a toy for a child like you. Hell, I don't even know why they sell super sport bikes for road use in the first place. Someone on here once said riding one on the street is like being a brain surgeon and applying at the hospital for a janitorial position. Couldn't be any more accurate. Even the first super sports were much more than one could ever use, or need on public roads. A Ninja 250 is more than anyone needs. I can get to speeds that will have me thrown in jail in no time flat on my 250. Like I said, include me in your will! I want that R6 for a track toy after you wad it up for me. Then I can build it to what I please.

July 26th, 2012, 06:15 PM	#10
codestp202 Guest Posts: n/a	Man, you guys really hate this kid lol

July 26th, 2012, 06:16 PM	#11
dirty nasty ninjette.org sage Name: Karl Location: MA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Kwak Ninja 250 and 1998 Yamaha YZ400F Posts: 534	Nah, we were looking out for his safety. I don't want to see a 15 year old die. He's just our resident dunce.

July 26th, 2012, 06:47 PM	#16
Old Lemon Lays er down Name: Michael Location: Maryland Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Lime green Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Dam you got dog ears if you need ear plugs to listen to a stock exhaust at 13k rpm

July 26th, 2012, 06:53 PM	#19
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Well this is a pointless thread just like all the other threads that Robert starts.

July 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM	#21
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Once I graduate and join the Air Force, I'll post the differences between the Diamond DA40 we use at my school for pilot training & the T-6 Texan (or T38) used by the Air Force for training! Just in case the differences aren't obvious.

July 26th, 2012, 07:03 PM	#24
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Just made it a 3 star thread! Boom.

July 26th, 2012, 07:06 PM	#25
areifel ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Florida Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 194	I vote Robert should move up to the liter class.

July 27th, 2012, 04:29 AM	#34
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Earplugs are definitely a better solution than a new helmet. No matter how "good" of a helmet you have or how "quiet" it is, a loud helmet with earplugs will still be quieter than a quiet helmet with unprotected ears. Earplugs only cost $2.00 for a re-usable pair that will last you a while vs $300 for a quieter helmet and work better anyways. Earbuds are a bad idea; they just add more noise to cover up the noise that damages your hearing in the first place. Posted via Mobile Device

July 27th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#36
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	the question of "does the bike have enough power" can be answered as such: you cant put down any more power than the power it takes to break loose the rear, right? so... does the bike have enough power to break the tire loose while fully leaned over at the speed you are going? there's a qualifier to that question... the speed you are going. lets assume <65mph. top of 3rd gear. so can you break loose the rear tire in 1st at full lean? yes. 2nd? yes. 3rd? its hard, but ive seen people do it on the race track. so the answer to your question is, yes. the 250 has more than enough power for legal street speeds. unless you are trying to drag race. __________________________________________________

July 27th, 2012, 11:40 AM	#37
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I've never seen a 250 break the rear loose... I want to see that someday Posted via Mobile Device

July 27th, 2012, 11:51 AM	#39
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Darren who? Link maybe plz. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School