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Old February 8th, 2017, 02:37 AM   #1
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Lil Ninja, trials and tribulations

So, I just purchased a new old 2011 Ninja 250R, green beastie, new tires, new chain, lots of meat on the pads, sounds good too with a slip on musarri w/ baffle.

As with all new old stuff the initial servicing with new plugs and oil were first on the list, I went to the local shop, told them my make and model and got plugs, oil, filter and a new washer, bloody washer was the wrong size, the original was still servicable so it went back on.

Then after some googling found this web site.

Boredom ensued and I started looking at some mods.

Did the cable tie mod, it was rubbish, it worked, sort of, but it didn't feel right, I then rang around and visited every shop in the area for a +06 R6 throttle tube, none to be had, rang shop and ordered a 06 R6 throttle tube from shop, $70, ouch, anyways, parts dude says Yamaha site down, verified from other shops, so at this stage I'm still waiting.

Purchased a 15 tooth front sprocket, due to a new chain the tension was too late tight and there was no adjustment left so the old 14 tooth went back on.

More googling ensued.

Rang shop and ordered a 42 tooth rear sprocket, shop rings a few days later and says it's in, I rode to shop and low and behold, they sent a 48 tooth, dude said sorry and I'm still awaiting the 42.

The bike itself is in good nick, and fun blasting to and from work, it's just a pity that my luck with parts is, at this point, rubbish.

Any hows, this is just my little thread of trials and tribulations and the effect that boredom can have when playing with stuff.

In two weeks time I might start looking at tuning, God knows how thats going to turn out.

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of, Honey I melted my pistons, or how to clean up after using a dry chemical fire extinguisher.
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Just realized I posted in 2013+ forum.

I've got this failing thing down to a tee lately.
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Hey Mark! Welcome!! I have an '08 250R with very low miles....(green as well).It too has the Musarri clip-on. I also removed the airbox, installed K&N R-0990 pod filter, re-jetted carbs with 116.5 mains, ( I removed the baffle...What a difference!) and it runs great!
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Hey Mark! Welcome!! I have an '08 250R with very low miles....(green as well).It too has the Musarri clip-on. I also removed the airbox, installed K&N R-0990 pod filter, re-jetted carbs with 116.5 mains, ( I removed the baffle...What a difference!) and it runs great!
Cheers for the tips, I will most likely retain the air box, I had those little pod type filters on a old slab side, while I liked the induction noise it wasn't functional in inclement weather, when it rains here its torrential.

I will retain the baffle as well, its loud enough as is and I'm already deaf enough.

I may look at removing the snorkel though.
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Finally all fitted up with 15 t front and 42 t rear, also +06 throttle tube.

The bike still has its fairings off and will get a good wash and lube tomorrow, then its time to see if the gearing is more to my liking.

Old gearing was 14 t and 43 t.

Throttle tube is the boss though, no mods at all, maybe 2 to 3mm of free play.
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And bike parts are cheap, I've also got a 2015 WRX STI, everything aftermarket for that thing costs a bundle.

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100kph @ 7000rpm

So I've dropped 1000rpm from the cog swap.

1st gear now is much better as well, I cannot really notice any difference when launching but the bike will now get through a intersection without the need for a up shift.

Bike revs well in all gears to redline.

For overtaking so far I've found that when at 100kph dropping down 2 will put me in a happy place in the rev range for overtaking.
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Stock sprockets were 14/45. I remember calculating that going to 15/42 puts the new 5th gear where stock 6th gear was, sort of like getting a 7th gear. I currently have 15/45 on the bike, and a 42 sitting here, waiting to go on shortly.

Funny about not having to shift before you clear an intersection. I have to say that even with 15/45 it feels like a super low 1st gear.
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Stock sprockets were 14/45. I remember calculating that going to 15/42 puts the new 5th gear where stock 6th gear was, sort of like getting a 7th gear. I currently have 15/45 on the bike, and a 42 sitting here, waiting to go on shortly.

Funny about not having to shift before you clear an intersection. I have to say that even with 15/45 it feels like a super low 1st gear.
I was at 14/43

Which gave me 100kph at 8k rpm in 6th.

I should have looked at what kph the bike was shifting at at redline in first to see what difference it makes.

I will have a look next time I get it out to see the kph I get at redline in first.
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From googling it seems that stock sprockets in AU are 14/43 with 106 link.

Last futzed with by MLR; February 18th, 2017 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Correction to front sprocket size
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From googling it seems that stock sprockets in AU are 14/43 with 106 link.
Interesting. The US verions's repair manual says 14/45, as does the ninja250.org wiki: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_...nge_my_gearing

I guess the AU version was different, not by a ton, but different nevertheless.
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Interesting. The US verions's repair manual says 14/45, as does the ninja250.org wiki: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_...nge_my_gearing

I guess the AU version was different, not by a ton, but different nevertheless.
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1st at 12.5 -13k rpm = 58 - 60kph

Or about 36 - 37mph

2nd, 3rd and 4th should be achievable without loss of licence.

Not sure about 5th

6th will be a different story.
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Also some new pads and fluid which will get done next weekend.

The current ones are about 50% front and 80% rear but I like to swap out things that I have no history on.
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Sintered pads are the arse.

Shop guy recommened the pads, sintered for front and organic rear, the rear work great, apparently I need to ride 1 million miles to bed in the sintered front pads.

I bedded the rear organic in in 10 minutes, the front sintered I tried to bed in like the organics, after 2 days they are still rubbish.

I swapped the rear organic pads to the front and I had front brakes again, cleaned everything again and put the sintered back in, aaaarrrrrgggggg, they are crap.

I rang the shop that recommend and supplied the pads and they said to bring it in, if this is normal and do need to do 1 million miles to bed in then they are going in the bin and being swapped out for organics.

Maybe it's the oem disc being to soft, maybe it's the sintered pad, maybe the world hates me.

Either way, it would be nice to have front brakes when riding to work, the sintered pads have not impressed me.

Funny thing is it's the first time I've ever used sintered pads, its always been organics.

That's what I get for trying something new.

Not real impressed ATM.
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All I've ever heard about EBC HH sintered pads is they provide excellent stopping.
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I've heard questionable things about them.

Vesrah RJL pads have been recommended by more people that know than any other pad.

I have a couple sets here waiting for installation.
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So, after pulling the front brakes and sanding and cleaning the rotors, sanding and spraying the pads with brake clean (alot of yellow/brown stuff came out) and some more riding around and more brake clean.......

It will now do stoppies on request.

But, honestly, way to much time and effort, especially if you want to have working brakes on the way to work.

Plus I used almost a full can of brake clean before, during and after, 95% of it on the stupid front brakes.

Anyways, all is well, as you were.
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Greased my axles today, and yes, I did "get in there nice and deep".
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Finally oiled and installed new UNIFILTER.

I am getting over birds sitting on my grips, they look at themselves in the mirror and crap all down the fairing.

I now carry a old pair of socks under the seat to cover the mirrors, that seems to work.
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My headlight buld decided to stop playing the game, last night, riding home crom the airport was interesting, all oc a sudden it got real dark, I leaned forward and realized the reason cor stealth mode was a globe, riding the rest of the way home with high beam annoyed the tin tops.

On a side note, I relied on hopes and dreams a bit, not being able to see the road directly in front of me was unnerving to say the least.

The bike is now grounded from night time adventures till the issue is rectified.
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I had that happen, too. I was wondering why people were flashing me with their high beams during the day... as the sun set, a driver leaned over and told me my headlight was out.

Oh.

Riding home with the high beam on was not fun, like you say, but it worked. I hope you can get a new lamp pretty quickly. Back on the road!
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I had that happen, too. I was wondering why people were flashing me with their high beams during the day... as the sun set, a driver leaned over and told me my headlight was out.

Oh.

Riding home with the high beam on was not fun, like you say, but it worked. I hope you can get a new lamp pretty quickly. Back on the road!
It would be funny if it wasn't dangerous, I don't do much riding at night anymore, my old eyes don't like the glare.

The lights should he fixed this weekend though, I hate having outstanding maintenance.
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So, I just purchased a new old 2011 Ninja 250R, green beastie, new tires, new chain, lots of meat on the pads, sounds good too with a slip on musarri w/ baffle.

As with all new old stuff the initial servicing with new plugs and oil were first on the list, I went to the local shop, told them my make and model and got plugs, oil, filter and a new washer, bloody washer was the wrong size, the original was still servicable so it went back on.

Then after some googling found this web site.

Boredom ensued and I started looking at some mods.

Did the cable tie mod, it was rubbish, it worked, sort of, but it didn't feel right, I then rang around and visited every shop in the area for a +06 R6 throttle tube, none to be had, rang shop and ordered a 06 R6 throttle tube from shop, $70, ouch, anyways, parts dude says Yamaha site down, verified from other shops, so at this stage I'm still waiting.

Purchased a 15 tooth front sprocket, due to a new chain the tension was too late tight and there was no adjustment left so the old 14 tooth went back on.

More googling ensued.

Rang shop and ordered a 42 tooth rear sprocket, shop rings a few days later and says it's in, I rode to shop and low and behold, they sent a 48 tooth, dude said sorry and I'm still awaiting the 42.

The bike itself is in good nick, and fun blasting to and from work, it's just a pity that my luck with parts is, at this point, rubbish.

Any hows, this is just my little thread of trials and tribulations and the effect that boredom can have when playing with stuff.

In two weeks time I might start looking at tuning, God knows how thats going to turn out.

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of, Honey I melted my pistons, or how to clean up after using a dry chemical fire extinguisher.
You sound like me. I just bought a 2007 in March and just got done with all the stuff I wanted to do to it. I'm not really that slow at wrenching but I had to work in an open car port - weather permitting. Now for some riding.

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Finally all fitted up with 15 t front and 42 t rear, also +06 throttle tube.

The bike still has its fairings off and will get a good wash and lube tomorrow, then its time to see if the gearing is more to my liking.

Old gearing was 14 t and 43 t.

Throttle tube is the boss though, no mods at all, maybe 2 to 3mm of free play.
What the puck is a "throttle tube"?

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Stock sprockets were 14/45. I remember calculating that going to 15/42 puts the new 5th gear where stock 6th gear was, sort of like getting a 7th gear. I currently have 15/45 on the bike, and a 42 sitting here, waiting to go on shortly.

Funny about not having to shift before you clear an intersection. I have to say that even with 15/45 it feels like a super low 1st gear.
I agree TJ. 1st gear is good for pulling tree stumps out of the ground. I did the 15 tooth trick, I guess it'll be a 42 rear when I buy a new chain.

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What the puck is a "throttle tube"?

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The +06 R6 throttle tube has less "twist" needed to get full throttle, I needed to regrab the throttle to get full throttle, now it's easy as on the wrist when wringing the bikes neck.
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The +06 R6 throttle tube has less "twist" needed to get full throttle, I needed to regrab the throttle to get full throttle, now it's easy as on the wrist when wringing the bikes neck.
Oh, the throttle tube is what us old farts used to call the "twist grip". OK, I'm old and not too hip. Motion Pro make a very quick responding throttle tube which is probably OK for a vacuum operated carb. With a non-diaphragm/vacuum operated carb you'd have to have an educated wrist in order not to dump too much throttle too soon.

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Fixed headlight globe, took like 3 minutes, mostly by feel though, I googled how to do it and they all seemed to want to remove the fairing, hell no, found a thread that said to just jam your hand in there and feel around, worked a treat.

Whilst the lil 250 is fun I find myself drawn to bike shops looking at larger bikes with more muscle.

This weekend could be interesting as I am as compulsive as 10 compulsive things.
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...riding the rest of the way home with high beam annoyed the tin tops.
You can adjust it down temporarily and avoid that problem.
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I'm not aware of any way to adjust the Ninja's headlight.

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It would be very odd if there were no way to adjust the headlight. I don't have a newgen, but I quickly found this thread with some clues:

https://forums.ninja250.org/posting....&t=69205&tro=1
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