Help with windscreen bolt

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 02:46 PM

I cannot get the bottom right bolt into the rubber grommet - I can see it, but the bolt just will not engage the grommet. They are slightly mis-aligned - the hole to the screen, the hole in the fairing, and the rubber grommet (nut).

I have been at this for an hour - why does every DIY turn into 5x the time length and 10x the frustration needed? I am begining to hate all DIY....

Guinss · August 5th, 2010, 02:54 PM

Try to stick your hand up along the front fork and push the rubber grommet. Its not very much space in there, i lost both the rubber grommets for the bottom right and left bolt. I had to take the front fairing off and super-glue new nuts in to place.

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 02:59 PM

That only managed to cut my wrist up bad...

Is there a longer screw I can buy? Give details about longer screw - don't just say - "Yes".

CZroe · August 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM

Is it a replacement rubber well nut? Some need to be squeezed to engage.

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM

No - stock.
How do I squeeze/engage it?

welcome2thedawn · August 5th, 2010, 03:53 PM

if you re-drilled the hole in the windscreen, would that make them line up? that's what i had to do with my undertail...after getting behind the bike, and trying to push with my shoulder, using all of my bodyweight to make the holes line up, i ended up just drilling a new hole

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 03:59 PM

The alignment is not that bad - it can see the grommet and it is just a (mm) or 2 to one side, but so was the other side and it engaged the rubber grommet and tightened with no problems.

I might just go to the fastener store and get a slightly longer bolt - after an hour and a half in a 100+ garage, I'm calling it quits for now.

Why does every simple task turns into an ordeal from hell...

k-os · August 5th, 2010, 04:06 PM

I'll guess that the rubber rotted out and broke and now the part of the grommet with the nut in it is separated form the part that goes through the hole. This happened on almost all of my fairing well-nuts. Here is a link to replacement well-nuts, although you'd have to wait for shipping.

50sGrl · August 5th, 2010, 04:12 PM

I've had the exact same problem trying to put on a ZeroGravity touring windshield. I think I'm going to take it to the shop and let them put it on. I figure it can't cost all that much.

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 04:15 PM

My grommet is looks fine as far as I can tell - the darn bolt just seems a bit to short to cause the proper amount of pressure to engage the grommet.

CRXTrek · August 5th, 2010, 04:19 PM

Try and take loose the one hex bolt on the inside of the screen on each side behind the mirror mount . Pull it out the plastic piece a couple inches and you can reach the back of the bolt wellnut from under the wind screen
And make sure you are putting the longer bolts at the bottom and not the top . Two different sizes on the wind screen

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 04:25 PM

I have tried every way to get me hand behind the grommet - but no matter which direction I go at it, I cannot seem to locate the rubber grommet with my free hand.

CRXTrek · August 5th, 2010, 04:30 PM

I could only reach with a couple fingers jammed under the screen . Take loose the two plastic covers behind the mirrors above the gauges and make sure you have yhe longer bolts at the bottom

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 04:35 PM

My bolts are the same length - I guess I used them in the wrong places when I removed my fairings...

CRXTrek · August 5th, 2010, 04:36 PM

That's the problem. Bottom bolts ( close to headlight ) are a lttle longer.

austexjg · August 5th, 2010, 04:40 PM

Right on the money - tried a different bolt from the fairings and sure enough, the b*stard went on...

Good call Steve

Should have tried this before I cut up my hand and wrist. The difference is length was barely noticeable with the eye.

CRXTrek · August 5th, 2010, 05:20 PM

Glad to help out. : )

welcome2thedawn · August 5th, 2010, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austexjg

Why does every simple task turns into an ordeal from hell...

ooohhhhhh do i understand this one...

Ramen · August 5th, 2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 50sGrl

I've had the exact same problem trying to put on a ZeroGravity touring windshield. I think I'm going to take it to the shop and let them put it on. I figure it can't cost all that much.

Same thing happened to me while putting on my Double Bubble. Trying to reach under the dash with my hand, the grommet just fell out. It had rotted.

I managed to get it back on, though. It involved taking the fairings off (I was adding a 12v socket to the bike at the time, so no biggie) and held the grommet with a pair of needle nose pliers while aligning it by sight. Took several tries, but I manged to snag it with the screw.

Definitely try to do it with plenty of light.

MikeCG23 · August 18th, 2010, 12:23 AM

Same thing happened to me. You have to stick your hand up there and feel around for the rubber grommet to hold it. I could only manage to hold it by pushing the tip of my finger on it because it was so hard to reach.

demp · August 18th, 2010, 04:20 AM

I've got the same issue on a few of mine... I think it's about time to start replacing them with something that won't rot out, but I use the "wedge your arm up in there" method and it works... takes some patience though

what would be the ideal thing to replace them with?

Cuongism · August 18th, 2010, 06:59 AM

If you have a cycle gear near you, they sell a windscreen bolt kit (with different color bolts to match). It comes with 8 grommets, washers and bolts for $15.99 and they do fit your lower fairings as well. Retail from a dealer is about $4 each.
www.bikebolts.com sells a complete kit (fairings and windscreen) for about $33.

August 5th, 2010, 02:46 PM	#1
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Help with windscreen bolt I cannot get the bottom right bolt into the rubber grommet - I can see it, but the bolt just will not engage the grommet. They are slightly mis-aligned - the hole to the screen, the hole in the fairing, and the rubber grommet (nut). I have been at this for an hour - why does every DIY turn into 5x the time length and 10x the frustration needed? I am begining to hate all DIY....

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August 5th, 2010, 02:54 PM	#2
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	Try to stick your hand up along the front fork and push the rubber grommet. Its not very much space in there, i lost both the rubber grommets for the bottom right and left bolt. I had to take the front fairing off and super-glue new nuts in to place.

August 5th, 2010, 02:59 PM	#3
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	That only managed to cut my wrist up bad... Is there a longer screw I can buy? Give details about longer screw - don't just say - "Yes".

August 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM	#4
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Is it a replacement rubber well nut? Some need to be squeezed to engage.

August 5th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#6
welcome2thedawn ninjette.org guru Name: dawn Location: portland, or Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r modded, 73 honda cl200, 74 kawasaki 400 triple Posts: 255	if you re-drilled the hole in the windscreen, would that make them line up? that's what i had to do with my undertail...after getting behind the bike, and trying to push with my shoulder, using all of my bodyweight to make the holes line up, i ended up just drilling a new hole

August 5th, 2010, 03:59 PM	#7
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	The alignment is not that bad - it can see the grommet and it is just a (mm) or 2 to one side, but so was the other side and it engaged the rubber grommet and tightened with no problems. I might just go to the fastener store and get a slightly longer bolt - after an hour and a half in a 100+ garage, I'm calling it quits for now. Why does every simple task turns into an ordeal from hell...

August 5th, 2010, 04:06 PM	#8
k-os ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Sheboygan, WI Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 1988 Honda Hawk NT650, 1989 Honda Hawk NT650, 1997 GSXR750 Track Bike Posts: 890	I'll guess that the rubber rotted out and broke and now the part of the grommet with the nut in it is separated form the part that goes through the hole. This happened on almost all of my fairing well-nuts. Here is a link to replacement well-nuts, although you'd have to wait for shipping.

August 5th, 2010, 04:12 PM	#9
50sGrl Midlife Noob Name: Ann Location: Golden, Colorado Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r, 09 Yamaha FZ6R Posts: 15	I've had the exact same problem trying to put on a ZeroGravity touring windshield. I think I'm going to take it to the shop and let them put it on. I figure it can't cost all that much.

August 5th, 2010, 04:15 PM	#10
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	My grommet is looks fine as far as I can tell - the darn bolt just seems a bit to short to cause the proper amount of pressure to engage the grommet.

August 5th, 2010, 04:19 PM	#11
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	Try and take loose the one hex bolt on the inside of the screen on each side behind the mirror mount . Pull it out the plastic piece a couple inches and you can reach the back of the bolt wellnut from under the wind screen And make sure you are putting the longer bolts at the bottom and not the top . Two different sizes on the wind screen

August 5th, 2010, 04:25 PM	#12
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	I have tried every way to get me hand behind the grommet - but no matter which direction I go at it, I cannot seem to locate the rubber grommet with my free hand.

August 5th, 2010, 04:30 PM	#13
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	I could only reach with a couple fingers jammed under the screen . Take loose the two plastic covers behind the mirrors above the gauges and make sure you have yhe longer bolts at the bottom

August 5th, 2010, 04:35 PM	#14
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	My bolts are the same length - I guess I used them in the wrong places when I removed my fairings...

August 5th, 2010, 04:36 PM	#15
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	That's the problem. Bottom bolts ( close to headlight ) are a lttle longer.

August 5th, 2010, 04:40 PM	#16
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Right on the money - tried a different bolt from the fairings and sure enough, the b*stard went on... Good call Steve Should have tried this before I cut up my hand and wrist. The difference is length was barely noticeable with the eye.

August 5th, 2010, 05:20 PM	#17
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	Glad to help out. : )

August 18th, 2010, 12:23 AM	#20
MikeCG23 Ride this! Name: Mike Location: Salt Lake City, UT Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 78	Same thing happened to me. You have to stick your hand up there and feel around for the rubber grommet to hold it. I could only manage to hold it by pushing the tip of my finger on it because it was so hard to reach.

August 18th, 2010, 04:20 AM	#21
demp ninjette.org sage Name: Matthew Location: Toronto Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 V-Star 950 Tourer (Deep Blue) Posts: 570	I've got the same issue on a few of mine... I think it's about time to start replacing them with something that won't rot out, but I use the "wedge your arm up in there" method and it works... takes some patience though what would be the ideal thing to replace them with?

August 18th, 2010, 06:59 AM	#22
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	If you have a cycle gear near you, they sell a windscreen bolt kit (with different color bolts to match). It comes with 8 grommets, washers and bolts for $15.99 and they do fit your lower fairings as well. Retail from a dealer is about $4 each. www.bikebolts.com sells a complete kit (fairings and windscreen) for about $33.