Official Area-P Pre-08 Ninja 250 Exhaust Thread - Page 4

Snake · May 18th, 2009, 05:08 AM

You and me both buddy. Money is tight but we will make it happen!!!

Purspeed · May 20th, 2009, 08:28 PM

Just a quick update for fellow Ninjetters:

I gapped and replaced my spark plugs with a fresh set of NGK's and the bike starts up a bit quicker and, more importantly, sounds a bit meaners. It revs slightly faster but seems to rev with greater umph...if you know what I mean.

I can't ride this weekend because of a little hand injury (non-bike related), so I'll have to give you my report next week.

Any questions that you have on the Area-P exhaust, shoot them this way.

greg737 · May 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM

Is the muffler section a permanent core construction like the original equipment mufflers on my EX-250?

In other words, it doesn't have to be re-packed periodically like some of the other aftermarket mufflers I've read about?

If you're thinking this is a dumb question, at least I warned you ahead of time!

kkim · May 27th, 2009, 07:51 PM

It needs to be repacked, but to date, I have not heard of anyone that has had to repack an Area P muffler. They use some high faluting packing material that stands up very well to use.

greg737 · May 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM

Good to hear that you don't know of anyone who's had to repack one yet.

I'd like to know more about the expected lifespan of the material it's packed with. Is there any guidance or information from the Area P folks as to how long the packing is expected to last? Is it a year or two or three. Or is it a certain number of miles? Will the exhaust get progressively louder and louder as it ages? I guess I could venture over to the Area P website to hunt for some information.

I'm not sure what "high fault" packing material is, has a good sound to it though.

kkim · May 27th, 2009, 08:14 PM

lol... high faluting= highfalutin= fancy.

http://www.areapnolimits.com/silentsport.html

greg737 · May 27th, 2009, 08:27 PM

I totally misread that. Oh well.

Being from Alabama originally I would've gotten it if you'd spelled it: falutin'

kkim · May 27th, 2009, 08:33 PM

yeah, my bad.

greg737 · May 27th, 2009, 09:08 PM

kkim · May 27th, 2009, 09:31 PM

yep.. when I bought my AP exhaust a year ago, I was going to order some repacking material at the same time. Kerry advised me to wait and see how long my packing will last before ordering some, so I did. To date, 2600 miles later, I'm still happy with the way the muffler performs. I know when packing blows out as I used to ride dirt bikes with mufflers with packing in it.

kbryant · May 28th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Very common to go well over 20,000 miles. Some never need repacking at all. We've had several 250R mufflers returned to us for repack service/inspection. One had 10,000 miles, the other had 14,000 miles on them. We disassembled and inspected. They required no packing to be added and had absolutely no loss of material. We reassembled and returned them to the customers at no charge.

The Silent Sport Premium from Germany is the best muffler packing material by far. With such a high burn rate (over 1300 F.), it simply does not wear out very easily. The 250R muffler temp does not come anywhere near those temps. So the material has little chance of burn out. We also take great care when we precisely pack each muffler. That in itself makes a very big difference in longevity.

logintoseepics · May 28th, 2009, 09:38 AM

Thanks for the replies about the packing material.

Kerry, are you accepting payment yet, or just pre-orders without payment? If I were to pay now, how long would I be expected to wait before receiving? Just curious. I'm willing to wait til end of summer if you guys are not in production yet on these, but I would prefer not to pay too far ahead of time because of credit card interest

I want to re-gear the bike a little taller and having the extra bit of power from this exhaust would help out.

greg737 · May 28th, 2009, 10:55 AM

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I want to re-gear the bike a little taller and having the extra bit of power from this exhaust would help out.

This matches my thinking about what to do with any extra zip the Area P mod would deliver.

I love the two-into-one looks and I'm pretty well satisfied with my EX-250's current acceleration and highway capability. A little reduction in the highway revs would be welcome as long as I don't have to lose any of the bike's current off-the-line performance. This seems like a good way to accomplish that.

kbryant · May 28th, 2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by logintoseepics

Thanks for the replies about the packing material.

Kerry, are you accepting payment yet, or just pre-orders without payment? If I were to pay now, how long would I be expected to wait before receiving? Just curious. I'm willing to wait til end of summer if you guys are not in production yet on these, but I would prefer not to pay too far ahead of time because of credit card interest

I want to re-gear the bike a little taller and having the extra bit of power from this exhaust would help out.

My pleasure. We are accepting pre-orders (no payment info required). Anyone contacting us through our website is logged into a file for the "Pre-08" system. As soon as we actually have them in production (scheduled to begin in about 60 days), we will contact everyone and keep you informed of when they will be complete and ready to ship.

carsnowmen91 · May 28th, 2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

Here is the final dyno chart. As Purspeed has indicated by his experiences with the system, the graph will help draw some correlation to what he is actually feeling. The power increase is upwards of 3 hp and 3 tq in some areas. Overall average is about 10 - 12%. The Dyno graph will not completely show you how linear your power and throttle response actually feels from the weight savings, spot-on jetting, and the big increase in low end torque. That can only be fully appreciated from actually riding.

When you have that kind of increase in low end hp/tq on a small displacement engine, as well as lowering the rpm ceiling where it makes peak power, you simply get there much quicker. This was critical in our R&D of the system. The feeling of improvement in actual acceleration is more linear; and you don't need the dyno to show that. That's the kind of improvement you actually "feel". Sometimes we refer to it as the "seat of the pants dyno".

are these the gains with both intake pods and exhaust with proper jetting? why did the 08 ninja get a whopping 7 whp gain (i'm asking this question if your answer to the previous one is yes)?

Snake · May 28th, 2009, 02:05 PM

I just put my order in. I can't wait.

logintoseepics · May 28th, 2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbryant

My pleasure. We are accepting pre-orders (no payment info required). Anyone contacting us through our website is logged into a file for the "Pre-08" system. As soon as we actually have them in production (scheduled to begin in about 60 days), we will contact everyone and keep you informed of when they will be complete and ready to ship.

Excellent, that means I am already in Que as I spoke with you and put down my request a month or so ago through email. Was just checking to see exactly how you are working it at this time. Thanks for the info!

kbryant · May 28th, 2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carsnowmen91

are these the gains with both intake pods and exhaust with proper jetting? why did the 08 ninja get a whopping 7 whp gain (i'm asking this question if your answer to the previous one is yes)?

Yes. Uni-Filters and Dynojet kit, properly adjusted/tuned. If you are looking at the dyno chart on our website for the '08-09 model, the actual net gain was just over 5 hp. The "7 hp" you are referring to was comparing actual peak power of the Area P system (12250 rpm = 30.72 hp), to where the OEM system was at the same rpm (12250 rpm = 23.85 hp). On average, most customers seem to be averaging in the 3.5 - 5 hp range.

Specifically, as noted previously, the '88 - 07 model is simply stronger in baseline form, has a much freer flowing oem exhaust, and does not respond to changes as well as the '08-09 model does. The '08-09 model makes slightly less baseline power stock, but it responds much better to changes as it has been restricted more by emissions standards both at the exhaust and intake than the '88-07 model was.

Purspeed · May 28th, 2009, 09:10 PM

...looking forward to fellow members receiving this exhaust!

it's kind of lonely on top...

Verus Cidere · May 29th, 2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

My pleasure. We are accepting pre-orders (no payment info required). Anyone contacting us through our website is logged into a file for the "Pre-08" system. As soon as we actually have them in production (scheduled to begin in about 60 days), we will contact everyone and keep you informed of when they will be complete and ready to ship.

Ok.... Let me be absolutely sure on this..... You guys are allowing us to send a pre-order, which gives you the correct number of them to make and the specifications we want. You begin production in 2 months, give or take a few days. Are you asking for payment before, at the start of, or after production? If I don't have to pay until after it's already built, I'll definitely send you an order.

As of right now though, I'm having a bit of trouble saving money around the random things that appear that require me to pay for them.

kbryant · June 1st, 2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verus Cidere

Ok.... Let me be absolutely sure on this..... You guys are allowing us to send a pre-order, which gives you the correct number of them to make and the specifications we want. You begin production in 2 months, give or take a few days. Are you asking for payment before, at the start of, or after production? If I don't have to pay until after it's already built, I'll definitely send you an order.

As of right now though, I'm having a bit of trouble saving money around the random things that appear that require me to pay for them.

We would never ask anyone to pre-pay for an order that is not ready to assemble and/or in stock. You would only pay when it is ready to ship. Just drop us an e-mail directly to say you are interested in ordering. We will then add your name to the list of those interested and contact you when the systems are actually available. We need nothing more than your serious interest at this point.

ulfjr · June 1st, 2009, 10:56 AM

Okay, I have a few questions about the exhaust kit. First, are you still planning on doing the deal when you buy a dynojet kit with the exhaust? Also, is this something that most anybody should be able to install themselves (I understand that rejetting the carbs is in order, and have never done that)? Last, is the standard (stainless steel) chromed, or more of a flat silver? If I get one it would probably be the standard stainless steel as long as it is not super shiny.

Thanks

Alex · June 1st, 2009, 11:42 AM

Ryan - do you have a bike to put the exhaust on yet? Is it a pre-gen or a 2008+?

ulfjr · June 1st, 2009, 12:03 PM

No, I don't have a bike yet but I am going to be buying a pregen sometime this week or next.

Alex · June 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM

Got it!

Verus Cidere · June 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM

E-mail sent!

So, just because I'm curious, you mentioned both an introductory discount and a possible ninjette.org member discount. Any news on whether or not both are offered and what they are? Thanks!

kbryant · June 1st, 2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulfjr

Okay, I have a few questions about the exhaust kit. First, are you still planning on doing the deal when you buy a dynojet kit with the exhaust? Also, is this something that most anybody should be able to install themselves (I understand that rejetting the carbs is in order, and have never done that)? Last, is the standard (stainless steel) chromed, or more of a flat silver? If I get one it would probably be the standard stainless steel as long as it is not super shiny.

Thanks

Yes, we'll be doing a "Ninjette.org" deal. Just need to have the system a little further along in production to determine the exact price. But if you look back on page three (I believe), there are some details. The system is reasonably easy to install, as is the battery box, uni-filters, breather element and Dynojet kit. If you are not reasonably comfortable with working on things, simply read the instructions, and look through the pictures to see if you want to tackle the project. The Jet kit is a little more advanced on the '88-07 to install. But again, not too difficult. If your not comfortable, take it to your local dealer or performance shop for them to install. Or if you get stuck somewhere, contact us and we'll walk you through it

. The stainless steel muffler has a brushed/satin finish.

kbryant · June 1st, 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verus Cidere

E-mail sent!

So, just because I'm curious, you mentioned both an introductory discount and a possible ninjette.org member discount. Any news on whether or not both are offered and what they are? Thanks!

See above post and page 3. We'll try to firm up the "deal" later this month.

Verus Cidere · June 4th, 2009, 12:07 AM

Awesome!

I'm dumping money in the bank every chance I get for the next 2 months just to be sure I have enough. Just another curiosity question, on your website it says that you use paypal. Do you have a checkout system (like ebay) or is it just a regular money transfer from one paypal account to another? I'm planning on paying through paypal either way, I was just curious as to which way you use, since you don't have any form of checkout posted on your site. Thanks again!

kbryant · June 4th, 2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verus Cidere

Awesome!

I'm dumping money in the bank every chance I get for the next 2 months just to be sure I have enough. Just another curiosity question, on your website it says that you use paypal. Do you have a checkout system (like ebay) or is it just a regular money transfer from one paypal account to another? I'm planning on paying through paypal either way, I was just curious as to which way you use, since you don't have any form of checkout posted on your site. Thanks again!

We do not use a "check-out" system. We take a more personalized approach. When the product is available, you simply go into the "Contact Us" page and tell us exactly what you want. For Paypal, we then send you an invoice.

undergroundzombi · June 5th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Get my bike in 2 weeks and areap kit asap can't wait. Anybody have any concrete info on the best plugs for the pregens as my bike has 2400 on it and has sat for years.....01 02 03? Don't remember doesn't matter.... but i'd like to start with some fresh plugs.
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undergroundzombi · June 5th, 2009, 08:13 AM

Kbryant. I was wondering typically the sound/performance difference when comparing the shorty to the long pipe.... I understand the long pipe is quieter but to what extent and does the decibal decrease come with any significant price in performance ...... thanks in advance
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Purspeed · June 5th, 2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by undergroundzombi

Get my bike in 2 weeks and areap kit asap can't wait. Anybody have any concrete info on the best plugs for the pregens as my bike has 2400 on it and has sat for years.....01 02 03? Don't remember doesn't matter.... but i'd like to start with some fresh plugs.
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I just put in the NGK CR8HSA gapped at .6-.7mm. Special order these from Kragen or someplace.

Be sure to use a tiny bit of anti-seize compound on the threads (and only on the threads!), screw them in hand tight and then tighten another 1/4-1/2 turn...I tightened to a 1/4 turn myself to be conservative.

My engine felt noticably bettere after the swap.

From what I understand, the performance between the longer, quieter muffler is almost identical to the shorty. The shorty is louder (me like) and...uh...shorter (me like).

kbryant · June 6th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undergroundzombi

Kbryant. I was wondering typically the sound/performance difference when comparing the shorty to the long pipe.... I understand the long pipe is quieter but to what extent and does the decibal decrease come with any significant price in performance ...... thanks in advance
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As Purspeed correctly pointed out, performance between the standard and long quiet muffler is virtually the same. The only reduction is sound level.

undergroundzombi · June 7th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Sounds good. I'll be sure to get those ngk plugs. Thanks for the info ( purspeed and kbryant ) , I can't wait to ride. I'll probably end up goin shorty flat cap carbon. Bike is black with the semi aqua blue accents. Should look pretty on there and no more restin the helmet on a hot muffler yay!! Lol
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Purspeed · June 8th, 2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by undergroundzombi

Sounds good. I'll be sure to get those ngk plugs. Thanks for the info ( purspeed and kbryant ) , I can't wait to ride. I'll probably end up goin shorty flat cap carbon. Bike is black with the semi aqua blue accents. Should look pretty on there and no more restin the helmet on a hot muffler yay!! Lol
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It's worth writing again that Area-P and Kerry Bryant in particular are a true pleasure to deal with. The customer service is second only to the quality of the product.

Verus Cidere · June 10th, 2009, 10:01 PM

I'm technically not even a customer yet and he's already putting up with my excess relentless questions. Purspeed is right, they're a great company.

I can't wait until I can rep them to everyone around here. Seems as though I'll be the first one in my town to have an exhaust from them. Everyone else has the cookie-cutter exhausts!

nate-bama · June 18th, 2009, 06:19 PM

i hate my stock exhaust

Tommy · June 18th, 2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nate-bama

i hate my stock exhaust

Me too...except its stock with the baffles removed. Sounds like a freakin harely when in an enclosed space.

Verus Cidere · June 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM

I'm not sure which part I'm looking forward to the most, the performance jump, or the fact that my bike won't sound like a lawnmower anymore!

May 20th, 2009, 08:28 PM	#122
Purspeed ninjette.org guru Name: Purspeed Location: Los Angeles, CA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	Just a quick update for fellow Ninjetters: I gapped and replaced my spark plugs with a fresh set of NGK's and the bike starts up a bit quicker and, more importantly, sounds a bit meaners. It revs slightly faster but seems to rev with greater umph...if you know what I mean. I can't ride this weekend because of a little hand injury (non-bike related), so I'll have to give you my report next week. Any questions that you have on the Area-P exhaust, shoot them this way. __________________________________________________ "This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008)

May 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM	#123
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	A quick question.... could be a dumb one. Is the muffler section a permanent core construction like the original equipment mufflers on my EX-250? In other words, it doesn't have to be re-packed periodically like some of the other aftermarket mufflers I've read about? If you're thinking this is a dumb question, at least I warned you ahead of time!

May 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#125
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Okay, that's interesting... Good to hear that you don't know of anyone who's had to repack one yet. I'd like to know more about the expected lifespan of the material it's packed with. Is there any guidance or information from the Area P folks as to how long the packing is expected to last? Is it a year or two or three. Or is it a certain number of miles? Will the exhaust get progressively louder and louder as it ages? I guess I could venture over to the Area P website to hunt for some information. I'm not sure what "high fault" packing material is, has a good sound to it though.

May 27th, 2009, 08:27 PM	#127
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Separated by a common language... I totally misread that. Oh well. Being from Alabama originally I would've gotten it if you'd spelled it: falutin'

May 27th, 2009, 09:08 PM	#129
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Found it. Yeah, this shizzil is high falutin'

May 18th, 2009, 05:08 AM	#121
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	You and me both buddy. Money is tight but we will make it happen!!!

May 27th, 2009, 07:51 PM	#124
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	It needs to be repacked, but to date, I have not heard of anyone that has had to repack an Area P muffler. They use some high faluting packing material that stands up very well to use.

May 27th, 2009, 08:14 PM	#126
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol... high faluting= highfalutin= fancy. http://www.areapnolimits.com/silentsport.html

May 27th, 2009, 08:33 PM	#128
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yeah, my bad.

May 27th, 2009, 09:31 PM	#130
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	yep.. when I bought my AP exhaust a year ago, I was going to order some repacking material at the same time. Kerry advised me to wait and see how long my packing will last before ordering some, so I did. To date, 2600 miles later, I'm still happy with the way the muffler performs. I know when packing blows out as I used to ride dirt bikes with mufflers with packing in it.

May 28th, 2009, 08:19 AM	#131
kbryant Area P Name: Kerry Location: SoCal & South Florida Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Too many to list Posts: 439	Very common to go well over 20,000 miles. Some never need repacking at all. We've had several 250R mufflers returned to us for repack service/inspection. One had 10,000 miles, the other had 14,000 miles on them. We disassembled and inspected. They required no packing to be added and had absolutely no loss of material. We reassembled and returned them to the customers at no charge. The Silent Sport Premium from Germany is the best muffler packing material by far. With such a high burn rate (over 1300 F.), it simply does not wear out very easily. The 250R muffler temp does not come anywhere near those temps. So the material has little chance of burn out. We also take great care when we precisely pack each muffler. That in itself makes a very big difference in longevity. Last futzed with by kbryant; May 28th, 2009 at 08:20 AM. Reason: spelling

May 28th, 2009, 09:38 AM	#132
logintoseepics ninjette.org newbie Name: Robert Location: GR Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2004 yellow Posts: 7	Thanks for the replies about the packing material. Kerry, are you accepting payment yet, or just pre-orders without payment? If I were to pay now, how long would I be expected to wait before receiving? Just curious. I'm willing to wait til end of summer if you guys are not in production yet on these, but I would prefer not to pay too far ahead of time because of credit card interest I want to re-gear the bike a little taller and having the extra bit of power from this exhaust would help out.

May 28th, 2009, 02:05 PM	#136
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I just put my order in. I can't wait.

May 28th, 2009, 09:10 PM	#139
Purspeed ninjette.org guru Name: Purspeed Location: Los Angeles, CA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	...looking forward to fellow members receiving this exhaust! it's kind of lonely on top... __________________________________________________ "This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008)

June 1st, 2009, 10:56 AM	#142
ulfjr ninjette.org newbie Name: Ryan Location: Columbia, MO Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None Yet Posts: 3	Okay, I have a few questions about the exhaust kit. First, are you still planning on doing the deal when you buy a dynojet kit with the exhaust? Also, is this something that most anybody should be able to install themselves (I understand that rejetting the carbs is in order, and have never done that)? Last, is the standard (stainless steel) chromed, or more of a flat silver? If I get one it would probably be the standard stainless steel as long as it is not super shiny. Thanks

June 1st, 2009, 11:42 AM	#143
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Ryan - do you have a bike to put the exhaust on yet? Is it a pre-gen or a 2008+? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 1st, 2009, 12:03 PM	#144
ulfjr ninjette.org newbie Name: Ryan Location: Columbia, MO Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None Yet Posts: 3	No, I don't have a bike yet but I am going to be buying a pregen sometime this week or next.

June 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM	#145
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Got it! __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

June 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM	#146
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	E-mail sent! So, just because I'm curious, you mentioned both an introductory discount and a possible ninjette.org member discount. Any news on whether or not both are offered and what they are? Thanks! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

June 4th, 2009, 12:07 AM	#149
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	Awesome! I'm dumping money in the bank every chance I get for the next 2 months just to be sure I have enough. Just another curiosity question, on your website it says that you use paypal. Do you have a checkout system (like ebay) or is it just a regular money transfer from one paypal account to another? I'm planning on paying through paypal either way, I was just curious as to which way you use, since you don't have any form of checkout posted on your site. Thanks again! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

June 5th, 2009, 07:46 AM	#151
undergroundzombi ninjette.org newbie Name: andy Location: bethlehem pa Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): none yet 250r in 2 weeks Posts: 5	Get my bike in 2 weeks and areap kit asap can't wait. Anybody have any concrete info on the best plugs for the pregens as my bike has 2400 on it and has sat for years.....01 02 03? Don't remember doesn't matter.... but i'd like to start with some fresh plugs. Posted via Mobile Device

June 5th, 2009, 08:13 AM	#152
undergroundzombi ninjette.org newbie Name: andy Location: bethlehem pa Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): none yet 250r in 2 weeks Posts: 5	Kbryant. I was wondering typically the sound/performance difference when comparing the shorty to the long pipe.... I understand the long pipe is quieter but to what extent and does the decibal decrease come with any significant price in performance ...... thanks in advance Posted via Mobile Device

June 7th, 2009, 11:12 PM	#155
undergroundzombi ninjette.org newbie Name: andy Location: bethlehem pa Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): none yet 250r in 2 weeks Posts: 5	Sounds good. I'll be sure to get those ngk plugs. Thanks for the info ( purspeed and kbryant ) , I can't wait to ride. I'll probably end up goin shorty flat cap carbon. Bike is black with the semi aqua blue accents. Should look pretty on there and no more restin the helmet on a hot muffler yay!! Lol Posted via Mobile Device

June 10th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#157
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	I'm technically not even a customer yet and he's already putting up with my excess relentless questions. Purspeed is right, they're a great company. I can't wait until I can rep them to everyone around here. Seems as though I'll be the first one in my town to have an exhaust from them. Everyone else has the cookie-cutter exhausts! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

June 18th, 2009, 06:19 PM	#158
nate-bama North Alabama Mtn. ryder Name: Nate Location: Alabama Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Posts: 537	i hate my stock exhaust __________________________________________________ QTRltrPWR

June 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM	#160
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	I'm not sure which part I'm looking forward to the most, the performance jump, or the fact that my bike won't sound like a lawnmower anymore! __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

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