September 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM | #1 |
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A solution to the "cager" problem is only 5 years away?
I think most people on here are aware of Google's testing of self-driving cars. Well according to google, they want their self-driving car to be accessible to the average joe in only five years time! Imagine how much safer a computer driver with 360 degree scanning would be for us two wheel folk. If google can really hit their estimation, we could see majority idiot free driving in as little as 10-15 years!
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September 25th, 2012, 05:14 PM | #2 |
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I doubt this will happen even in the next 15 years, nevermind 5.
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September 25th, 2012, 05:19 PM | #3 |
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unless it an actual terminator driving,
i think there will still be a lot of old cars on the road that won't be retrofitted...
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September 25th, 2012, 05:21 PM | #4 |
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As much as my GPS is off sometimes I would hate for it to think there is a magical street in my lane.
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September 25th, 2012, 05:25 PM | #5 |
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To Err is human, to really screw things up requires a computer! Humans make mistakes, humans make computers, do the math!
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September 25th, 2012, 05:44 PM | #6 |
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i will always have a cage and drive it
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September 25th, 2012, 05:55 PM | #7 |
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I think it could, especially if a government gets behind it. Pretty much eliminates the DUI and driving-while-distracted epidemic that seems to be happening in every other car. Will it be perfect? No. Will every car have it in 15 years? No. But I think 10 years of adoption in most new cars should give it the majority.
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September 25th, 2012, 05:58 PM | #8 |
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Google has done over 300,000 accident free miles.
When I was a kid people liked to just drive around for fun. I guess it's not fun anymore so we need cars to drive themselves.
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September 25th, 2012, 06:09 PM | #9 |
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We don't need self driving cars, what we need is mandated manual transmission cars. If people actually have to spend half a second thinking about driving they will be more aware, we do not want them less aware
Actually what needs to be invented is a car that requires you to use both hands and both legs to operate. Text and die mother****ers
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September 25th, 2012, 06:12 PM | #10 |
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crazy penalties are what we really need.
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September 25th, 2012, 06:14 PM | #11 |
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Crazy penalties are what we already have
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September 25th, 2012, 06:24 PM | #12 | |
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Pretty much eliminates the DUI, riding-while-distracted, running wide in turns, getting target fixation, falling on wet streets and....... having fun.
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September 25th, 2012, 07:19 PM | #13 | |
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Anyways its not like these cars force you to use the auto feature, it can be turned off at any time if you want to drive for fun or prefer to have control. Although in my opinion, if you really want to have "fun", you should take it to the track. This is not designed for people who like to drive, it is designed for 90% of America who think driving is just a way to get from point A to B and texting, talking, applying their makeup, etc while getting there is ok. |
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September 25th, 2012, 07:23 PM | #14 |
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all cages should be terminated.
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September 25th, 2012, 07:25 PM | #15 |
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Nah what needs to happen is less of the "oh you can use gas pedal and stop for signs here is your license" Seriously though its so easy for people to get a license to drive its crazy. I'm all for freedom or whatever but they need to assess people better. Everyday I drive people don't use on ramps to get up to speed=traffic jams, they don't know how to merge=traffic and accident, they don't check their blindspots=accident, they are screwing around on their phones=accident, on and on...and for shits and giggles so many people don't even know what the continuous lane sign is.
Some people just don't need to drive IMO, this may be a good solution for those people, although I don't trust computers much. They can glitch and it can glitch in the worst possible way. But, I'm sure some of those appliance drivers will like this idea after all a car to them is an appliance to get them from A to B. In some ways I can get behind them no longer driving but just being ferried about.
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September 25th, 2012, 07:31 PM | #16 |
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A self-driving car from Google huh? So enter in an address and hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button and hope you get there. Meanwhile, during the whole trip, Google will be flashing you ads on the side windows.
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September 25th, 2012, 07:34 PM | #17 |
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People blame equipment as being the reason that it broke or the reason for it breaking. I see the cagers using the excuse of oh sorry I did not see you and changing it up to, oh sorry, my car did not see you, it's not my fault!
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September 25th, 2012, 07:34 PM | #18 |
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imagine being behind 2 lanes of heavy traffic and you just lane split through them all...the cars on ur left detect you so they swerve left..the ones on the right detect you aswell and they swerve right and you just zoom on through.
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September 25th, 2012, 07:59 PM | #19 | |
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Soon it will be in every car and you can be doing 100 mph down the freeway and that little box is telling the cop up ahead that your screwing up, when you see him, you will slow down but he already knows what you did and where you are, he's just waiting for you to get there to give you the ticket.
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September 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM | #23 |
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Its funny you post this today, because they just passed a law in california
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/tech/i...nia/index.html
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September 25th, 2012, 08:30 PM | #24 |
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Last i heard you can get the black boxes taken out. the vehicle is your property so you can do whatever the fck you want with it and unless theres somethin new, insurance cant do **** about you removing it.
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September 25th, 2012, 08:30 PM | #25 |
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Well yeah of course but that's about all it does and that to me is not a good enough meter to judge a persons driving. Flagrant speeder? understand they aren't being as safe as they could; and those triple digit speeders weaving through heavy traffic? yeah not cool. Inattentive driver? Usually someone gets bad situation or ends with an accident if the person can't avoid them.
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September 25th, 2012, 08:42 PM | #27 |
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What do you mean? like texts? Not a fan of people reading my stuff, one of the reasons I have almost no apps on my phone (I just got a smartphone this year too the amount of crap on these things is unreal). If there was a 100% guarantee they wouldn't read my incoming messages then I wouldn't really care. Is this part of that no texting pledge thing that's going on?
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September 26th, 2012, 01:19 AM | #28 |
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All free will and income should be given up to the government because "they" know best how to apply it. We are only humans who make mistakes, we shouldn't be allowed choices.
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The future trend of all private transportation (including two-wheels') is all electric-all robotic. Note that I say all. It can't be a feature of choice; it will not work that way. What your robot car is going to decide to do when a drunk driver speeds towards it?
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September 26th, 2012, 06:49 AM | #31 | |
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whether the reaction time of vehicle is good enough is an important factor. as for reaction it could try to swerve and evade if theres room/time or deploy some kind of impact absorbing device if it can't avoid the accident. if it programmed right it will be able to drive way better than a person ever could.
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September 26th, 2012, 07:32 AM | #33 |
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Impossible to program for all factors and conditions. Some things are just best left up to humans. For better or worse....
In order for this to work, it must be off the ground or roads/lanes with dividers specifically built for this and a lot of the more complex issues will go away.
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I would like to see the routes and speeds of the 300,000 logged miles of the google autopilot car. I would venture to say there are some impracticalities in there somewhere. But hey, you gotta start somewhere.
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The human brain has been powerful enough to sort all kind of traffic situations for more than a century.
However, most brains are strongly distracted nowadays. Besides, combining the convenience of private transportation with independence from the driving task has always been an appealing idea (rich people employ drivers). It is only now, with computers, sensors and GPS, that the idea seems feasible. It also applies to self-stabilizing motorcycles. Learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle...re_integration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driverless_car http://litmotors.com/c-1/
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Most people can't afford to buy a new car these days...Nevermind how much this Google car wil cost.
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September 26th, 2012, 09:52 AM | #38 |
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I would agree with what jiggles in this case but even with all 4 limbs engaged, even that isn't addressing the main issue.... you can't fix stupid.
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September 26th, 2012, 09:59 AM | #39 |
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removing a persons responsibility is never a good idea though...
you can make a machine do anything/everything, but then people won't know how to do anything...
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September 26th, 2012, 10:19 AM | #40 |
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not like they know how to drive right now anyways
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