My work in progress

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 01:05 PM

Thanks everybody for all the help, parts and DIY's!

It's all starting to come together.

GSXR exhaust fitted and installed today.

It was mated to a beautiful Area P header...

BikeLitez rear fender eliminator with plate LED and LED blinkers...

Airbox and Kleen system are gone. K&N is in. Factory Pro stage 3 kit installed.

Next up, brake lines!

So, what flasher unit should I use for the blinkers?

Snake · May 8th, 2009, 01:30 PM

That is a very sweet looking ride. I like all the mods you have done.

OldGuy · May 8th, 2009, 01:38 PM

Nice work - I like the look you have obtained.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcuriel

That is a very sweet looking ride. I like all the mods you have done.

Thanks Rick! Thanks Don!

Here is the short list:

SS brake lines F/R
K&N pods
Airbox delete
Kleen delete
Factory Pro Stage III jetkit
Custom Area P/GSX-R can exhaust system
HID headlights
Proton front signals
BikeLitez rear signals
BikeLitez fender eliminator
Rear Kawi seat cowl
Rear passenger peg delete
No-cut Brake light modulator

Planned mods:

Corbin seat
Cortech soft saddle and cowl bags
Brake disc alarm/lock
Aftermarket smoke windscreen of some sort

Future down the road stuff:

Imported fuel injection take off from across the pond and a small turbo.

Snake · May 8th, 2009, 01:48 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I love The last part. "and a small turbo"

You impress me. Very ambitious. If people ask you Why. Just tell em "Why not?"

mxnello · May 8th, 2009, 01:49 PM

difficult to install, or simply cut and splice? plate/blinkers.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcuriel

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I love The last part. "and a small turbo"

You impress me. Very ambitious. If people ask you Why. Just tell em "Why not?"

I'm looking for the smallest turbo available. No intercooler unless I make a really small one. I want to keep the stock internals together if possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxnello

difficult to install, or simply cut and splice? plate/blinkers.

It's about a 2 hour job with removal of plastics, etc.. You'll have to cut and splice the wiring. I recommend soldiering them and heatshrink over that. The instructions aren't half bad that come with it.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 01:57 PM

I used www.fastermotorsports.com for most of my installation stuff. I was gonna do it all myself but I don't really have the time with work and I wanted it Dyno-tuned so they told me they'l install whatever I wanted for a nominal fee while it was apart for the jetting, etc.

It was a really good deal.

The exhaust fab was the priciest part of the whole deal. That cost about $300 with parts and welding, but it was worth it. I've spent hours researching the GSXR can swap and this is the most professional job I've seen, including custom mounting tabs and fitment. I'll pull it apart and get a bunch of pictures when I have time and ride a bit.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Is this considered an upgrade for the 08-09 Ninja 250 as far as rear shocks?

http://www.ohlins.com/Our-products/M.../Sport/KA-840/

Technical data
Length 320 +6/-2
Rate 80
Stroke 63
Fitted spring 00281-57
Position rear
Type S36HR1C1L
Fits Kawasaki Ninja 250R

DirtyBoy · May 8th, 2009, 03:40 PM

I'm glad to see that your not discouraged by what others say. I too am toying with the idea of a turbo simply for the fact that others say its a waste of time and money. The most expensive part will be buying a 600 so when everyone says I should have bought a 6 hundred I can say I already did.

Nice bike btw

randomwalk101 · May 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM

nice mods dude.

for flasher, go to autozone and buy that 2 prongs tridon electronic flasher will work.
if you want to use all four leds, you need to do the diode mod. You can use resistor but I don't recommend this because of the heat issues. Search my old post..there is instruction on how to do it from a to z

TnNinjaGirl · May 8th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Good luck with the turbo that's going to be awesome. Have you thought about a Megasquirt unit or something like it? Draw through or blow through turbo set ups are a pain. Also, our bikes have "relatively" low compression and some insanely well machined inside bits. A turbo is definately possible with stock internals with small amounts of boost. Sweet action!!

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Dirty, thanks bro!

Random, i'll check out your post. Thanks!

TNNG,

Megasquirt is an option but I figured a salvage bike from across the sea would yield the necessary parts. Plus I don't think I've heard of a US FI conversion using factory components. I'd enjoy that distinction. My welder would enjoy the fab work!

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TnNinjaGirl · May 8th, 2009, 06:20 PM

The question is: Can you get enough fuel to the motor using a factory FI system?
I guess there are a few questions really. Like: does it use a MAP or a MAF sensor? You know, general boost associated questions.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 06:27 PM

I have a high end BWM Audi VW tuner shop at my disposal. Not sure if its MAF or MAP. I see fitting a RRFPR and custom Power Commander tune or MS... Sky is the limit!

I'll have to work around my 2.4 Liter 4G64 turbo build for my Raider and my heads and cam project for my LS2 Trailblazer.

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TnNinjaGirl · May 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM

RRFPR is kinda archaic... Would work though. This project sounds very cool and has me more than a bit interested.

VAG-COM.

watcanido · May 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Nice job Cochese looks amazing man especially that exhaust. super sweet! and the braided brake lines are one of the best upgrades I've done on my bike, you really have a lot more feel when braking.

Cochese · May 8th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watcanido

Nice job Cochese looks amazing man especially that exhaust. super sweet! and the braided brake lines are one of the best upgrades I've done on my bike, you really have a lot more feel when braking.

Thanks brother! Looking forward to it!

i916it · May 8th, 2009, 11:39 PM

How did the dyno compare the GSXR/AreaPHeader combo and the AreaP full system?

If it's the same, or just as good, I will probably do this to my Yoshi headers.
Then get the pod filters and a new jet kit, since DynoJet doesn't have big enough jets to handle the air pods.

If you were to get a turbo on a 250, how would that affect handling/cornering?
It's a good idea.

Cochese · May 9th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i916it

How did the dyno compare the GSXR/AreaPHeader combo and the AreaP full system?

If it's the same, or just as good, I will probably do this to my Yoshi headers.
Then get the pod filters and a new jet kit, since DynoJet doesn't have big enough jets to handle the air pods.

If you were to get a turbo on a 250, how would that affect handling/cornering?
It's a good idea.

I'll have Dyno sheets for stock and for header+can when I pick it up, which I'll happily post when I figure out how. Keep in mind also, I am at 5,200-5,600 feet.

I recommend the Factory Pro jet kit. I imagine this exhaust will put out the most peak power because of the flow it allows. Ridability may suffer slightly at lower RPM's with the lack of backpressure. I'll just put my foot over the hole off the line.

A turbo shouldn't affect handling. I'm not sure what you mean. Are you referring to added weight, balance/center of gravity? Or power through turns, etc?

I got rid of the 750 and 1000 cc bikes I had because they were a waste of money and power for me. I ride to work and occasionally hit the local canyons with some buddies. I can out perform most of the folks up there with big liter bikes because they don't know how to ride or are on a bike that is too big. The ninja is perfect size but could use a little more power...

A turbo 250 would be the best of both worlds for me. It's not guaranteed that I'll even get around to it anytime soon but it would be fun project.

Cochese · May 10th, 2009, 11:14 AM

I took a peek at a Dyno sheet laying around when I went to drop off a flasher unit at the shop. I didn't write down the numbers but it looked like an improvement of 4 or 5 horsepower. It also completely smoothed out power delivery. The stock run was very jagged. The run with the exhaust before tuning was a super smooth line.

I'm looking forward to posting the sheets. Anyone know how? Do I just scan it in on a flat bed scanner?

ETA: Looks like most folks on the intarwebs just scan it in. I'm not sure if it's "corrected" or not either. I'll ask when I pick it up.

komohana · May 10th, 2009, 02:50 PM

cochese, nice job on the cycle thus far

am wondering what DOES that gixxer exhaust note sounds like?!?

sharky nrk · May 10th, 2009, 05:53 PM

looks pretty good, tasteful mods

Cochese · May 10th, 2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komohana

cochese, nice job on the cycle thus far

am wondering what DOES that gixxer exhaust note sounds like?!?

Search for GSXR exhaust ninja 250 on Youtube...

There are quite a few. There are even some here if you search for the same.

Otherwise, I'll post one up soon as I figure out how.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky nrk

looks pretty good, tasteful mods

Thanks!!!

Cochese · May 10th, 2009, 11:47 PM

Steve... here is one...

Link to original page on YouTube.

komohana · May 11th, 2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochese

Steve... here is one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRNP_-djIA

big mahalos cochese!
(gigantic hawaiian thanx!)
aloha

Cochese · May 12th, 2009, 03:29 PM

I picked it up today. Its like a different bike. Protons wired up with Bikelitez LED rears and the electric flasher from the proton thread. No diodes. Works great. HIDs rule. Tons more power from the intake jetting and full exhaust. I think dyno tuning helped. Power delivery is smooth from idle to redline. Only issue is the exhaust heat shield is a bit too close to the faring since it was measured up while the header wasn't completely torqued down. I'm gonna trim thw heat shield with a dremmel, buff and smooth the respray. For added protection I'm gonna put a bit of weather strip on the faring.

Next up a new Corbin seat, Cortech luggage, a windscreen and I'm done. I'll re-evaluate sprokets at a later date. Turbo FI conversion will have to wait until my smile wears off.

Tons of pics and dyno results coming soon. Have 10 hours of protecting and or serving and a camera that needs charged!
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Cochese · May 12th, 2009, 03:33 PM

I'll also attempt to source a decent video recorder for exhaust footage with sound and a mod walkaround. I don't think my Blackberry Storm video camera is up to it.
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i916it · May 12th, 2009, 03:46 PM

What was the best jet when they tuned it ?

Cochese · May 12th, 2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i916it

What was the best jet when they tuned it ?

Keep in mind I'm at over a mile elevation. Ill ask tomorrow when I pick up my truck I abandoned there with all my stock parts in it!

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Cochese · May 17th, 2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i916it

How did the dyno compare the GSXR/AreaPHeader combo and the AreaP full system?

Here is mine...

At 5,280 feet ~ of elevation.

K&N pods, FP Stage 3 Jet kit, airbox delete, kleen air delete, Area P header, GSXR exhaust.

Max power 27.56 - Torque 13.51

Stock, 23.60 - Torque 12.32

Conditions were much more favorable on the stock run at 57 F. On the second run with the mods, it was 3 weeks later, 81 F.

Here is Area P's full system.

They picked up a little more with a baffled can for more backpressure. Their test mule likely has higher miles and is fully broken in. I dyno'd with 189 miles.

http://www.areapnolimits.com/images/...8_dyno_big.gif

Cochese · May 17th, 2009, 06:15 PM

My power delivery (squigglyness of the lines) seems smoother.

Nickds7 · May 20th, 2009, 02:07 PM

Nice work. Miles with show if you gain some power...and a turbo

PeterJasonMN · May 30th, 2009, 05:52 PM

Nice nice Cochese!

Cochese · May 30th, 2009, 06:44 PM

May 8th, 2009, 01:05 PM	#1
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	My work in progress Thanks everybody for all the help, parts and DIY's! It's all starting to come together. GSXR exhaust fitted and installed today. It was mated to a beautiful Area P header... BikeLitez rear fender eliminator with plate LED and LED blinkers... Airbox and Kleen system are gone. K&N is in. Factory Pro stage 3 kit installed. Next up, brake lines! So, what flasher unit should I use for the blinkers?

May 8th, 2009, 01:38 PM	#3
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Nice work - I like the look you have obtained. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

May 8th, 2009, 01:49 PM	#6
mxnello ninjette.org member Name: Nello Location: Central, NJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R 'Blue' Posts: 53	bike litez difficult to install, or simply cut and splice? plate/blinkers.

May 8th, 2009, 03:40 PM	#10
DirtyBoy ninjette.org member Name: Leo Location: Phoenix, Az Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 66	I'm glad to see that your not discouraged by what others say. I too am toying with the idea of a turbo simply for the fact that others say its a waste of time and money. The most expensive part will be buying a 600 so when everyone says I should have bought a 6 hundred I can say I already did. Nice bike btw __________________________________________________ 49T sprkt/ EK gold chain/ Galfer pads and SS lines/120 frt 150 rr Pilot Powers/ GSX-R can/Desnorkled/ Raised needles/ Slider spools/ Cowl/ LED rear signals/ Fender eliminator/ Tinted lights / Emu seat

May 10th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#22
komohana ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Steve Location: Kekaha, Kauai HI Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 GSX-R 600 2003 EX250: Woodcraft Bars, Levers, Mirrors, Shim'd Mixture, Synthetic, '08 Rear Shock Posts: A lot.	cochese, nice job on the cycle thus far am wondering what DOES that gixxer exhaust note sounds like?!? __________________________________________________ Remember when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous?

May 8th, 2009, 01:30 PM	#2
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	That is a very sweet looking ride. I like all the mods you have done.

May 8th, 2009, 01:48 PM	#5
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I love The last part. "and a small turbo" You impress me. Very ambitious. If people ask you Why. Just tell em "Why not?"

May 8th, 2009, 01:57 PM	#8
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	I used www.fastermotorsports.com for most of my installation stuff. I was gonna do it all myself but I don't really have the time with work and I wanted it Dyno-tuned so they told me they'l install whatever I wanted for a nominal fee while it was apart for the jetting, etc. It was a really good deal. The exhaust fab was the priciest part of the whole deal. That cost about $300 with parts and welding, but it was worth it. I've spent hours researching the GSXR can swap and this is the most professional job I've seen, including custom mounting tabs and fitment. I'll pull it apart and get a bunch of pictures when I have time and ride a bit.

May 8th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#9
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	Is this considered an upgrade for the 08-09 Ninja 250 as far as rear shocks? http://www.ohlins.com/Our-products/M.../Sport/KA-840/ Technical data Length 320 +6/-2 Rate 80 Stroke 63 Fitted spring 00281-57 Position rear Type S36HR1C1L Fits Kawasaki Ninja 250R

May 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM	#11
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	nice mods dude. for flasher, go to autozone and buy that 2 prongs tridon electronic flasher will work. if you want to use all four leds, you need to do the diode mod. You can use resistor but I don't recommend this because of the heat issues. Search my old post..there is instruction on how to do it from a to z

May 8th, 2009, 04:07 PM	#12
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	Good luck with the turbo that's going to be awesome. Have you thought about a Megasquirt unit or something like it? Draw through or blow through turbo set ups are a pain. Also, our bikes have "relatively" low compression and some insanely well machined inside bits. A turbo is definately possible with stock internals with small amounts of boost. Sweet action!!

May 8th, 2009, 06:16 PM	#13
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	Dirty, thanks bro! Random, i'll check out your post. Thanks! TNNG, Megasquirt is an option but I figured a salvage bike from across the sea would yield the necessary parts. Plus I don't think I've heard of a US FI conversion using factory components. I'd enjoy that distinction. My welder would enjoy the fab work! Posted via Mobile Device

May 8th, 2009, 06:20 PM	#14
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	The question is: Can you get enough fuel to the motor using a factory FI system? I guess there are a few questions really. Like: does it use a MAP or a MAF sensor? You know, general boost associated questions.

May 8th, 2009, 06:27 PM	#15
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	I have a high end BWM Audi VW tuner shop at my disposal. Not sure if its MAF or MAP. I see fitting a RRFPR and custom Power Commander tune or MS... Sky is the limit! I'll have to work around my 2.4 Liter 4G64 turbo build for my Raider and my heads and cam project for my LS2 Trailblazer. Posted via Mobile Device

May 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#16
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	RRFPR is kinda archaic... Would work though. This project sounds very cool and has me more than a bit interested. VAG-COM.

May 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#17
watcanido ninjette.org member Name: Jhaqui Location: Earth Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 83	Nice job Cochese looks amazing man especially that exhaust. super sweet! and the braided brake lines are one of the best upgrades I've done on my bike, you really have a lot more feel when braking.

May 8th, 2009, 11:39 PM	#19
i916it ninjette.org member Name: Sky Location: Sacramento Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R 08 Posts: 63	How did the dyno compare the GSXR/AreaPHeader combo and the AreaP full system? If it's the same, or just as good, I will probably do this to my Yoshi headers. Then get the pod filters and a new jet kit, since DynoJet doesn't have big enough jets to handle the air pods. If you were to get a turbo on a 250, how would that affect handling/cornering? It's a good idea.

May 10th, 2009, 11:14 AM	#21
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	I took a peek at a Dyno sheet laying around when I went to drop off a flasher unit at the shop. I didn't write down the numbers but it looked like an improvement of 4 or 5 horsepower. It also completely smoothed out power delivery. The stock run was very jagged. The run with the exhaust before tuning was a super smooth line. I'm looking forward to posting the sheets. Anyone know how? Do I just scan it in on a flat bed scanner? ETA: Looks like most folks on the intarwebs just scan it in. I'm not sure if it's "corrected" or not either. I'll ask when I pick it up.

May 10th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#23
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	looks pretty good, tasteful mods

May 10th, 2009, 11:47 PM	#25
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	Steve... here is one... Link to original page on YouTube. Last futzed with by Alex; May 11th, 2009 at 09:41 AM. Reason: embedded video

May 12th, 2009, 03:29 PM	#27
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	I picked it up today. Its like a different bike. Protons wired up with Bikelitez LED rears and the electric flasher from the proton thread. No diodes. Works great. HIDs rule. Tons more power from the intake jetting and full exhaust. I think dyno tuning helped. Power delivery is smooth from idle to redline. Only issue is the exhaust heat shield is a bit too close to the faring since it was measured up while the header wasn't completely torqued down. I'm gonna trim thw heat shield with a dremmel, buff and smooth the respray. For added protection I'm gonna put a bit of weather strip on the faring. Next up a new Corbin seat, Cortech luggage, a windscreen and I'm done. I'll re-evaluate sprokets at a later date. Turbo FI conversion will have to wait until my smile wears off. Tons of pics and dyno results coming soon. Have 10 hours of protecting and or serving and a camera that needs charged! Posted via Mobile Device

May 12th, 2009, 03:33 PM	#28
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	I'll also attempt to source a decent video recorder for exhaust footage with sound and a mod walkaround. I don't think my Blackberry Storm video camera is up to it. Posted via Mobile Device

May 12th, 2009, 03:46 PM	#29
i916it ninjette.org member Name: Sky Location: Sacramento Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R 08 Posts: 63	What was the best jet when they tuned it ?

May 17th, 2009, 06:15 PM	#32
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	My power delivery (squigglyness of the lines) seems smoother.

May 20th, 2009, 02:07 PM	#33
Nickds7 ninjette.org guru Name: Nick Location: Sacramento, California. Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 379	Nice work. Miles with show if you gain some power...and a turbo

May 30th, 2009, 05:52 PM	#34
PeterJasonMN ninjette.org newbie Name: Peter Location: Duluth, MN Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None yet. Posts: 8	Nice nice Cochese!

May 30th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#35
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258

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