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July 30th, 2012, 10:00 PM | #162 |
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Official 2013 Ninja 250 Thread
FYI Kawasaki Motor Indonesia will launch a new model of Ninja 250R tomorrow august 1st rumors says that it will be injection, ABS, new fairing etc i will tell the update tomorrow update the dyno : Last futzed with by taufik-tmcblog; August 6th, 2012 at 11:08 PM. |
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July 30th, 2012, 11:03 PM | #165 |
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July 30th, 2012, 11:04 PM | #166 |
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July 31st, 2012, 03:30 PM | #167 | |
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July 31st, 2012, 04:20 PM | #168 |
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July 31st, 2012, 04:43 PM | #169 | |
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Last I checked the 250R can reach 100MPH, which means you can take turns at those speeds, brake from those speeds, and accelerate to those speeds under a variety of conditions. Even if just smoothing out road conditions a steering damper has a use on any size bike. I agree that in this segment in this country Kawasaki has to strike a balance between beginner bike entry level cost and building a tool that can competently perform, but these things (suspension, brakes) do matter. I know several people who rule out ABS on the 250R who would otherwise love to use it as an everyday all weather commuter. Likewise I might be seriously tempted if Kawasaki offered a full spec Ninja with fully adjustable Ohlins at a great price (under 8k). Then again these things can be taken care of in the aftermarket almost just as well. |
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July 31st, 2012, 04:54 PM | #170 |
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Pretty sure a steering dampener would have little to no effect on a ninjette
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July 31st, 2012, 05:03 PM | #172 |
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July 31st, 2012, 05:06 PM | #173 | |
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People can get by without a steering damper, just like people get by without a rear suspension, but to say it has little/no effect just because the bike is light weight and has a small engine is just flat out wrong. |
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July 31st, 2012, 05:10 PM | #174 | |
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July 31st, 2012, 05:34 PM | #175 |
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The whole point of a steering damper isn't just to prevent tank slappers any more then the whole point of a rear shock is to prevent the bike from going airborne over a pot hole. Steering dampers affect stability at a variety of levels under a variety of conditions - I can almost guarantee some of which you ride every single time you go out riding.
The addition of a steering damper will generally reduce the wobbly-ness inherent in the steering of short wheel base bikes with aggressive steering geometry. A bike with a steering damper will give you much more confidence through turns and even on straights then the exact same bike without one. And while the 250R doesn't have the most aggressive geometry on the market, it is still a very short wheel base bike with a relatively aggressive rake/trail compared to most non-supersport bikes. Bottom line, suspension matters no matter what the engine size. |
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A steering dampener would be a waste of time and money.
The stock ninjette is so raked that it is overly uber stable. It is so stable that when I raised my tail 2+" and lowered my nose .25", it is still stable, even at 100+ mph and over bumps and WOT turns at mid-ohio and over the twisty roads of the Cuyahoga river valley. The whole point of a steering dampener is to dampen the motion of the bars so that the geometry can be made more aggressive. More aggressive steering is less stable (bad) and faster to turn in (good). This allows the bike to be more easily flicked side to side while lowering the risk of tank slappers and loss of control over irregularities in the road and situations where the front end is light. That's the only reason it's on some bikes. It is a band-aid to the boo-boo of being so aggressive to the point of being potentially unstable. This booboo is made more evident at high speeds, hence some of the super high tech electronic dampeners that do more dampening at speed, where the bars jerk back and forth more rapidly. The ninja 250 is not fast enough or aggressive enough for that to really be an issue. If you want a steering dampener, by all means, blow a few Ben Franklin's. But it's not necessary, and likely won't make a darn not of difference outside of the placebo effect. Posted via Mobile Device |
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It has absolutely nothing to do with rider error or "aggressive geometry" at that point, although a short trail and small wheelbase can contribute, both of which the Ninja 250R has. Finally you started with: What exactly are you comparing this ultimate stability to? Have you tried a Ninja 250R with a properly set up steering damper back to back with the bike without one? Again, I guarantee you a bike with a properly setup steering damper will feel more stable and give you more confidence then the same bike without one. Full stop. |
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July 31st, 2012, 09:14 PM | #178 |
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I wonder how many of the racers on this site have steering dampeners on their 250s
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July 31st, 2012, 09:17 PM | #179 |
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Racing stock class usually rules out steering dampers.
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July 31st, 2012, 10:03 PM | #180 |
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Personally I consider steering dampers to be the "ABS" of suspension. When you you don't need it then it's generally completely transparent but when you do need it then it really saves you. Can't overstate enough that the consequences of not having a steering damper can affect you no matter what size or power of your bike.
It's also why I question how good for beginners bikes like the FZ6R and Ninja 650 really are. With their budget suspensions with limited adjust-ability, beginners aren't really learning how to dial in a suspension or what a quality suspension feels like. Sure these things can be fixed with the aftermarket, but going that direction basically negates the price advantage, and trying to dial in an aftermarket suspension to what out of the box the other supersports do from big budget factory testing is a non-trivial undertaking. Not to mention, in terms of real world usable power (talking 0-60 not 1/4 mile) they are very even. |
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All New Ninja 250 2013
Officially Launch All New Ninja 250 in Indonesia
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Interesting! Keep us updated as you learn more. It certainly looks nice from that angle, but I wanna know what's up her skirt
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August 1st, 2012, 05:53 AM | #187 |
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stay tuned for more updates and features. ( i'm sorry if my language so bad )
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August 1st, 2012, 06:02 AM | #188 | |
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August 1st, 2012, 06:05 AM | #189 |
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August 1st, 2012, 06:25 AM | #190 |
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Siaal .. Baru belii udah keluar yang baru aja ..
Damn .. I just bought my ninja for like a month ago .. Screw kawasaki for making a new one already .. I thought this ninja will stay for 20 years like the old ninja .. Posted via Mobile Device |
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August 1st, 2012, 06:37 AM | #191 |
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the little disc in the center of disc brake, looks like a sensor disc for speedometer.. or better yet, ABS sensor.
Frame and ergonomics looks the same.. its styling follows ninja 650. |
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August 1st, 2012, 06:53 AM | #192 |
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Update
Kawasaki Indonesia launch for the first world premiere All New Ninja 250R |
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August 1st, 2012, 06:54 AM | #193 |
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great looking ninja 250R
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August 1st, 2012, 06:57 AM | #194 |
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Yep, ABS sensor ring.
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Damn Kawi. Just got my bike last year and Kawi release this now.
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August 1st, 2012, 07:02 AM | #196 |
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so . . . i told you . . . its a major change ninjete
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August 1st, 2012, 07:08 AM | #197 |
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pict again
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So why are you the only one that knows? There is nothing about this on the web other than what you have put out there.
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August 1st, 2012, 07:09 AM | #199 |
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the headlamp
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