Engine Kill Switch won't kill - Page 2

g21-30 · November 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM

If it is the CDI, he can do the continuity/resistance checks illustrated in my other thread on CDI troubleshooting. He may have just discovered another potential problem with the '08+ CDIs.

.KiT · November 11th, 2009, 06:34 PM

ok putting my VOM on 2000 OHM setting and touching each of the pins according to the pin out diagram you provided the following is what I got:

CZroe · November 11th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

If it is the CDI, he can do the continuity/resistance checks illustrated in my other thread on CDI troubleshooting. He may have just discovered another potential problem with the '08+ CDIs.

Huh. If so, could this be what the recall is for? After all, it's safety-related considering that it's an EMERGENCY cut-off switch.

.KiT · November 11th, 2009, 06:37 PM

these might not mean much since i had the vom on 2000 OHM setting

HKr1 · November 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM

If you think its the cdi, just disconnect the Neg lead on both coils. Will it still try and turn over via the starter button in the off postion?

.KiT · November 14th, 2009, 08:50 PM

I got a replacement CDI and swapped it out tonight. Still same effect. Kill switch does NOT work still. I give up... use the key to cut the engine.

kkim · November 14th, 2009, 09:00 PM

that tells you it's not a CDI problem.

did you check for continuity on the br/blk wiring harness wire from the switch to the CDI?

while you should be using the key to kill the motor, anyway, the killswitch is a safety device to shut off the engine should you ever need to in an emergency. having it functional may come in handy one day.

.KiT · November 14th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

that tells you it's not a CDI problem.

did you check for continuity on the br/blk wiring harness wire from the switch to the CDI?

while you should be using the key to kill the motor, anyway, the killswitch is a safety device to shut off the engine should you ever need to in an emergency. having it functional may come in handy one day.

Im open to any testing. I will try that next. Yes I was kidding, I know I need that switch to work.

Thanks for the suggestion i will test that cont. next.

HKr1 · November 15th, 2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

did you check for continuity on the br/blk wiring harness wire from the switch to the CDI?

It gonna be the Red wire, thats the one that should have No +12 with the switch off.
Red supplies +12 to the starter switch & coils, when the kill switch is On..

g21-30 · November 15th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Just an FYI, your CDI resistance numbers that you measured are the same as my '09 CDI, at least for the pins that you checked.

kkim · November 15th, 2009, 10:49 AM

disconnect the connector leading to the kill switch. jumper it on the harness side of that connector and see if the bike starts. if it does start, the switch is the problem.

.KiT · November 15th, 2009, 11:18 AM

I will short out the connection KKIM, but this is a new switch that tests fine when disconnected from the harness.

g21-30 · November 15th, 2009, 11:26 AM

It's also a 6 wire connector. That's why I suggested earlier to use the old switch and cut the 2 kill switch wires and plug the connector into the harness. If the bike doesn't start, the switch is the problem.

kkim · November 15th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

It's also a 6 wire connector.

sorry, wasn't aware of that.

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November 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#41
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	If it is the CDI, he can do the continuity/resistance checks illustrated in my other thread on CDI troubleshooting. He may have just discovered another potential problem with the '08+ CDIs.

November 11th, 2009, 06:37 PM	#44
.KiT ninjette.org member Name: Kris Location: NC Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 22	these might not mean much since i had the vom on 2000 OHM setting

November 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#45
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	If you think its the cdi, just disconnect the Neg lead on both coils. Will it still try and turn over via the starter button in the off postion?

November 14th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#46
.KiT ninjette.org member Name: Kris Location: NC Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 22	I got a replacement CDI and swapped it out tonight. Still same effect. Kill switch does NOT work still. I give up... use the key to cut the engine.

November 14th, 2009, 09:00 PM	#47
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	that tells you it's not a CDI problem. did you check for continuity on the br/blk wiring harness wire from the switch to the CDI? while you should be using the key to kill the motor, anyway, the killswitch is a safety device to shut off the engine should you ever need to in an emergency. having it functional may come in handy one day.

November 15th, 2009, 10:30 AM	#50
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Just an FYI, your CDI resistance numbers that you measured are the same as my '09 CDI, at least for the pins that you checked.

November 15th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#51
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	disconnect the connector leading to the kill switch. jumper it on the harness side of that connector and see if the bike starts. if it does start, the switch is the problem.

November 15th, 2009, 11:18 AM	#52
.KiT ninjette.org member Name: Kris Location: NC Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 22	I will short out the connection KKIM, but this is a new switch that tests fine when disconnected from the harness.

November 15th, 2009, 11:26 AM	#53
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	It's also a 6 wire connector. That's why I suggested earlier to use the old switch and cut the 2 kill switch wires and plug the connector into the harness. If the bike doesn't start, the switch is the problem.