Do you pack heat on your 250 beast?

[massacremasses]

Id rather open carry than conceal carry.... not legal here though.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Id rather open carry than conceal carry.... not legal here though.

I would rather have the option to do both. That way you don't accidentally break the law.
California just changed it recently, if i remember right you could do it,but the action had to be open and unloaded...

You guys need to replace your politicians, or later on you won't be able to do anything...

[I'm Fred]

I find it pretty illogical to compare carrying a gun to wearing a helmet and a seatbelt lol. First, being involved in an accident on a motorcycle is not highly unlikely, and you should be the first one to know it Jiggles

Second, in what hell of an even would you need to life threaten someone or pop a bullet at him to defend yourself? I would understand to have one in your house to protect your familly incase something happens, but carrying one everywhere at anytime would be overkill...

If you really feel the need to have a weapon to protect yourself why not bring pepper spray? It's more practical and is probably more then you'll ever need lol

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by lgk

I would rather have the option to do both. That way you don't accidentally break the law.
California just changed it recently, if i remember right you could do it,but the action had to be open and unloaded...

You guys need to replace your politicians, or later on you won't be able to do anything...

we need to become separate states. Socal can become its own state and take the ****ing hippies from SF with them.

Things that would happen. Norcal would have a budget surplus. GARUN****INGTEE it.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by gwilo

I feel they should eliminate concealed weapons permits.

If you want to carry a gun it must be out in the open where all can see it all the time.

It should be up to the individual, he is carrying a deadly weapon, after all

What happens if your jacket covers it when you walk?

What if the environment conceals it?

Laws aren't meant to cover all situations, they only cover certain circumstances.
The simpler the law the better.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

we need to become separate states. Socal can become its own state and take the ****ing hippies from SF with them.

Things that would happen. Norcal would have a budget surplus. GARUN****INGTEE it.

If nor cal turned into its own state, i would move there.
You guys have some beautiful land out there.

[ponypowered92]

Originally Posted by gwilo

I feel they should eliminate concealed weapons permits.

If you want to carry a gun it must be out in the open where all can see it all the time.

I think we just need Swiss gun laws

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

I find it pretty illogical to compare carrying a gun to wearing a helmet and a seatbelt lol. First, being involved in an accident on a motorcycle is not highly unlikely, and you should be the first one to know it Jiggles

Use your imagination

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

Second, in what hell of an even would you need to life threaten someone or pop a bullet at him to defend yourself? I would understand to have one in your house to protect your familly incase something happens, but carrying one everywhere at anytime would be overkill...

Someone mugging you with a knife. Or remember that guy that help up the city council (or whatever they were) on the news? And then he shot at one guy? Yea a gun woulda helped there

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

If you really feel the need to have a weapon to protect yourself why not bring pepper spray? It's more practical and is probably more then you'll ever need lol

It might stop a rapist by killing his boner but it's not going to stop someone who wants to hurt you

[lgk]

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

I find it pretty illogical to compare carrying a gun to wearing a helmet and a seatbelt lol. First, being involved in an accident on a motorcycle is not highly unlikely, and you should be the first one to know it Jiggles

to say its highly unlikely to get robbed, does not increase your chance of survival if it occurs. shooting them is 100%.

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

Second, in what hell of an even would you need to life threaten someone or pop a bullet at him to defend yourself? I would understand to have one in your house to protect your familly incase something happens, but carrying one everywhere at anytime would be overkill...

people are trained not to use a gun in a threatening manner, real life ain't hollywood. when you feel that your life is in danger, use deadly force.

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

If you really feel the need to have a weapon to protect yourself why not bring pepper spray? It's more practical and is probably more then you'll ever need lol

pepper spray is not a weapon, it is a compliance device.
unless you plan on fighting for 5minutes and then handcuffing him pepper spray is not a good choice.

used effectively a gun is a great choice for self defense.
why else would police arm themselves with them.

[DevinWolfe]

I carry while riding, but not with the thought/intent of using said weapon while riding, damn near impossible, imo. But it will be there when I have arrived at my location and make a decision to refuse to be a helpless victim.

I do a lot of stupid things, carrying a gun and riding a bike are just a couple of them.

P.S. TN uses an HCP written so vaguely as to not restrict one to carry open or concealed. You may carry whicherver way you like in TN so long as you have the HCP.

[EthioKnight]

Totally gun ignorant, but yesterday, during a group ride, a couple of riding buddies who I wasn't aware carried guns, wanted to see if the space underneath the seat/cowl of our 250s could accommodate guns...so I popped open my cowl, took the tool bag out, and (not sure about the make/model) but a 9mm fit easily while a 40 couldn't...opened my eyes about how many people carried guns though (3 out of 8 people in our ride)

[lgk]

Originally Posted by DevinWolfe

I carry while riding, but not with the thought/intent of using said weapon while riding, damn near impossible, imo. But it will be there when I have arrived at my location and make a decision to refuse to be a helpless victim.

I do a lot of stupid things, carrying a gun and riding a bike are just a couple of them.

P.S. TN uses an HCP written so vaguely as to not restrict one to carry open or concealed. You may carry whicherver way you like in TN so long as you have the HCP.

ignorance never solved anything....
carrying a gun and knowing how to use a gun is responsible.

[Chubbs032]

too many george zimmerman's out there ...

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Chubbs032

too many george zimmerman's out there ...

I didn't realize the trial was finished. Tell me, was it justified or not?

[Chubbs032]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I didn't realize the trial was finished. Tell me, was it justified or not?

of course it wasn't you fool, unarmed 17yo kid shot...taking neighborhood watch to a whole new meaning

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Chubbs032

of course it wasn't you fool, unarmed 17yo kid shot...taking neighborhood watch to a whole new meaning

You seem to have a lot of inside information. You should really contact the DA prosecuting the case and share your information.

The justice system is going to have a fun time finding an impartial jury for this one.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Chubbs032

too many george zimmerman's out there ...

what do you mean by this, lol.

you trying to be discriminatory....

[I'm Fred]

Originally Posted by lgk

to say its highly unlikely to get robbed, does not increase your chance of survival if it occurs. shooting them is 100%.




people are trained not to use a gun in a threatening manner, real life ain't hollywood. when you feel that your life is in danger, use deadly force.




pepper spray is not a weapon, it is a compliance device.
unless you plan on fighting for 5minutes and then handcuffing him pepper spray is not a good choice.

used effectively a gun is a great choice for self defense.
why else would police arm themselves with them.

So ya'll are ready to kill someone trying to rob you? Pepper spray is WAY enough to let you get the **** out of any dangerous situation where a gun would be needed.

Police arm themselves with it because their job is to counter criminality. They have guns to protect against other people with guns.

If no one had a gun, no one would need any, ever thought about that?

[lgk]

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

So ya'll are ready to kill someone trying to rob you? Pepper spray is WAY enough to let you get the **** out of any dangerous situation where a gun would be needed.

Police arm themselves with it because their job is to counter criminality. They have guns to protect against other people with guns.

If no one had a gun, no one would need any, ever thought about that?

have you ever used pepper spray to defend yourself?
i have, its not like the movies where the guy immediately falls to the ground.
the person will feel pain and lose some vision but he still has full strength and is still dangerous.
what about multiple people? trying to pepper spray two or more people is fail. you will get your ass kicked or killed.

police arm themselves with guns because its effective. has nothing to do with stopping crime since police are not legally required to intervene here.
if there was something more deadly they would use it, and so would i.

people were killing and robbing each other way before guns were invented.
the good thing about a gun is it puts a 100lb female on an equal footing to a 250lb man. the female does not have to be a victim, she is an equal.

[thurt88]

I'd like to get me a western rig and open carry my Uberti saa. Thing would be a mother to conceal it but then I could get a shoulder holster and carry like Doc Holliday.

[I'm Fred]

Originally Posted by lgk

have you ever used pepper spray to defend yourself?
i have, its not like the movies where the guy immediately falls to the ground.
the person will feel pain and lose some vision but he still has full strength and is still dangerous.
what about multiple people? trying to pepper spray two or more people is fail. you will get your ass kicked or killed.


police arm themselves with guns because its effective. has nothing to do with stopping crime since police are not legally required to intervene here.
if there was something more deadly they would use it, and so would i.

people were killing and robbing each other way before guns were invented.
the good thing about a gun is it puts a 100lb female on an equal footing to a 250lb man. the female does not have to be a victim, she is an equal.

So is a retard and a police officer...

[xSean13]

The Canadian doesn't know what freedom is...let him be.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by xSean13

The Canadian doesn't know what freedom is...let him be.

don't know if i can...
picking apart his logic is fun

[gwilo]

Originally Posted by xSean13

The Canadian doesn't know what freedom is...let him be.

We may not be free in your eyes, but we do not have to walk our streets carrying a gun to feel safe.


(And the last time someone tried to invade us we burnt down their White House )

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by gwilo

We may not be free in your eyes, but we do not have to walk our streets carrying a gun to feel safe.

Hockey riots.

[xSean13]

Originally Posted by gwilo

We may not be free in your eyes, but we do not have to walk our streets carrying a gun to feel safe.


(And the last time someone tried to invade us we burnt down their White House )

1. I see a lot of people walking down my street every day doing just fine by their selves with no gun.

2. If you got invaded now though...well, you guys couldn't do much.

3. Can you come burn it down again before next January?

[gwilo]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Hockey riots.

Only good hockey riots are in Montreal,

Vancouver's think it was a riot, but it was not. It was just a small area of downtown.

Montreal's was 10 miles of St. Catherine street.

[Jiggles]

Oh whoops, my bad, guess there is no crime in Canada

[I'm Fred]

Originally Posted by xSean13

1. I see a lot of people walking down my street every day doing just fine by their selves with no gun.

2. If you got invaded now though...well, you guys couldn't do much.

3. Can you come burn it down again before next January?

thing is, we won't get invaded because the rest of the world doesn't hate us..

[gwilo]

We have crime, there was a gang related shoot last week one town over from me.

The founder of a major drug gang was killed, tied up with thee Mexican drug wars.

But it was a targeted hit, well carried out.

[xSean13]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Oh whoops, my bad, guess there is no crime in Canada

canada? Where's that?

[lgk]

Originally Posted by gwilo

We may not be free in your eyes, but we do not have to walk our streets carrying a gun to feel safe.

that's the difference between our societies...
i view freedom as much more important than safety.

[gwilo]

Originally Posted by lgk

that's the difference between our societies...
i view freedom as much more important than safety.

I agree, but I suggest you do some reading up on Canada.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by gwilo

I agree, but I suggest you do some reading up on Canada.

sure, have any links?

[gwilo]

Start here

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ca.html

[lgk]

Originally Posted by gwilo

Start here

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ca.html

do you have something that concentrates on firearms law and history of ownership?

[gwilo]

We don't carry fire arms.

The only person I know that has a carry permit, that is not work related, is an Ex Cop with a contract on his life.

Even ex/retired cops can not get a carry permit without a reason ^

Other than that you can get a permit to carry a handgun to and from the range.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by gwilo

We don't carry fire arms.

The only person I know that has a carry permit, that is not work related, is an Ex Cop with a contract on his life.

Even ex/retired cops can not get a carry permit without a reason ^

Other than that you can get a permit to carry a handgun to and from the range.

what happens if you use the firearm to defend yourself while in transit?

[Whiskey]

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

I find it pretty illogical to compare carrying a gun to wearing a helmet and a seatbelt lol. First, being involved in an accident on a motorcycle is not highly unlikely, and you should be the first one to know it Jiggles

Second, in what hell of an even would you need to life threaten someone or pop a bullet at him to defend yourself? I would understand to have one in your house to protect your familly incase something happens, but carrying one everywhere at anytime would be overkill...

If you really feel the need to have a weapon to protect yourself why not bring pepper spray? It's more practical and is probably more then you'll ever need lol

are you serious

Originally Posted by I'm Fred

So ya'll are ready to kill someone trying to rob you? Pepper spray is WAY enough to let you get the **** out of any dangerous situation where a gun would be needed.

Police arm themselves with it because their job is to counter criminality. They have guns to protect against other people with guns.

If no one had a gun, no one would need any, ever thought about that?

So ban all guns, then only criminals will have them

A better question for you is have you ever got sprayed with pepper spray, OC spray, CS gas or any of the similar ones?

I have. it stings a bit & actually pisses you off more, if as you suggest nobody has a gun, the guy who wants to rob you will either have a knife, a syringe full of blood or possibly a bat, any of these will still fcuk you up quickly(even quicker if you've recently aggravated the attacker.

BTW pepper spray has a nasty habit of blowing/splashing back at you. (do you wear contacts... if so don't even think of pepper spray)

I'm in 2 minds as to how effective concealed carry is, I used to open carry (a Steyr AUG mostly, that tends to prove a point) & always had it to hand, a pistol in a leg holster is accessible enough but one inside a jacket will take a couple of seconds to get a clean draw & have it on target, if the other guy has a gun he'll probably have it ready to go.

If you really must use something other than guns then from my experience a bang of a tazer is better than pepper spray (I've been on both ends of both) and an ASP baton can prove a point too, just hope you don't come up against someone with a gun or a syringe

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Whiskey

If you really must use something other than guns then from my experience a bang of a tazer is better than pepper spray (I've been on both ends of both) and an ASP baton can prove a point too, just hope you don't come up against someone with a gun or a syringe

the tazer is okay but against multiple assailants the gun is whats needed.