new cbr250rs - $3000otd?

alex.s · July 24th, 2012, 05:07 PM

http://www.funbike.com/shop/honda/2012-honda-cbr250r/

they apparently have not sold a single cbr250 since they got this shipment in and dont want to deal with them any more so they are selling their stock at cost.

Monkeytofu · July 24th, 2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

http://www.funbike.com/shop/honda/2012-honda-cbr250r/

they apparently have not sold a single cbr250 since they got this shipment in and dont want to deal with them any more so they are selling their stock at cost.

But you'd still have to pay money for a CBR250. That really is the deal breaker right there.

Trailerboy531 · July 24th, 2012, 05:22 PM

Wow. That's a ****in' deal!

tooblekain · July 24th, 2012, 05:26 PM

Not bad at all...but figure in the additional costs to race prep it. I wonder though...does the Ninja 250 or the CBR250 have the upper edge in terms of performance?

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 05:26 PM

*All prices DO NOT include tax, doc, and license, freight & setup. All units subject to availability.

$2000 in fees

tooblekain · July 24th, 2012, 05:28 PM

....when I buy bikes I deal with OTD pricing only. Its how I bought my Bonneville.

7oxSin · July 24th, 2012, 05:28 PM

cant wait to see a vs vid

Jiggles · July 24th, 2012, 05:29 PM

Well its certainly not $3000 OTD

menikmati · July 24th, 2012, 07:35 PM

Whatever you do, don't give FBC your primary phone number as they will harass the **** out of you every day, even if you tell them you're not interested anymore or you've already made a purchase somewhere else.

Boom King · July 24th, 2012, 07:48 PM

Buy one then immediately change the exhaust because the stock can seriously sounds like a lawnmower.

rawbert625 · July 24th, 2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

*All prices DO NOT include tax, doc, and license, freight & setup. All units subject to availability.

$2000 in fees

THIS WHERE THEY GET YOU!
I use to look at the CBR250r forums all the time because I really wanted this bike. However the price just ain't worth it IMO. Every person on the forums that got it from a dealer had to pay all those fees and that adds a good chunk of money there.

alex.s · July 25th, 2012, 09:44 AM

My friend talked to them. 3k otd.

menikmati · July 25th, 2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

My friend talked to them. 3k otd.

Race prep it and ride the poo out of it?

itsEnZo · July 25th, 2012, 11:00 AM

That offer is soooooo tempting >.>

Chubbs032 · July 25th, 2012, 11:04 AM

looking nice...it's a little lighter (30lbs?). What about the power figures?

alex.s · July 25th, 2012, 11:38 AM

its slower

you can find used new-gens for cheaper than this if you want a racebike. but if you want a cheap street bike with less power, style and ability than the ninja...

kcaja1 · July 25th, 2012, 01:00 PM

I called the store and here's the breakdown:
2999 - motorcycle
395 - freight
495 - handling
3.50 - tire fee
46 - registration
305.65 - sales tax
55 - documentation
60 - licensing

Total is 4359.15 hahahahaha what a real BS deal

Bill N · July 25th, 2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kcaja1

I called the store and here's the breakdown:
2999 - motorcycle
395 - freight
495 - handling
3.50 - tire fee
46 - registration
305.65 - sales tax
55 - documentation
60 - licensing

Total is 4359.15 hahahahaha what a real BS deal

Unfortunately that's how most stealerships operate in Florida too. But you can bargain with (s)dealers for bottom dollar out the door price. Get a quote from one dealer then let others try to beat it. I've read that freight and handling charges are bogus because the stealership can still turn a profit without those charges. That's where prices can be negotiable. Bill

iplante · July 25th, 2012, 02:06 PM

WTF is the TIRE FEE for? lol

Ptdoughnut · July 25th, 2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iplante

WTF is the TIRE FEE for? lol

Its called a tire Levy and its basically an enviromental charge. You get it on any car and as well when you buy tires.

Went to my local honda dealership today to drop off parts for a workers personal car and they had one cbr sitting there. They are ugly! I didn't find them pleasing to the eyes at all.

iplante · July 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM

Thanks Mason

alex.s · July 25th, 2012, 02:27 PM

ross, im sure it was so high because you called from across the country. freight and handling to ship it to nova is going to be high. the documentation licensing registration and sales tax will still be there... but thats not really paying the dealership thats paying the government. they have them sitting down there at their shop and they have been there for quite some time. it would be easy to get the frieght and handling taken off in person im sure

dino74 · July 25th, 2012, 02:33 PM

I posted this before ... its a good vid about racing 250CBRs

Link to original page on YouTube.

CZroe · July 25th, 2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.s

ross, im sure it was so high because you called from across the country. freight and handling to ship it to nova is going to be high. the documentation licensing registration and sales tax will still be there... but thats not really paying the dealership thats paying the government. they have them sitting down there at their shop and they have been there for quite some time. it would be easy to get the frieght and handling taken off in person im sure

Also, they quoted CA taxes and regs. He'd do that on his own in VA.

HKr1 · July 26th, 2012, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ptdoughnut

Its called a tire Levy and its basically an enviromental charge. You get it on any car and as well when you buy tires.

Heard of a disposal fee, never a fee on new tires

Redgeneral · July 26th, 2012, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HKr1

Heard of a disposal fee, never a fee on new tires

Basically the same thing. Except when they charge you up front, you might as well dispose of them properly since it would be free (since you already paid for it). Instead of making someone pay at disposal, then people decide to just toss them on the side of the road or in the bush to avoid paying the fees.

kcaja1 · July 26th, 2012, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

ross, im sure it was so high because you called from across the country. freight and handling to ship it to nova is going to be high. the documentation licensing registration and sales tax will still be there... but thats not really paying the dealership thats paying the government. they have them sitting down there at their shop and they have been there for quite some time. it would be easy to get the frieght and handling taken off in person im sure

I didn't tell the sales person that I'm from VA. I talked to him as if I'm local to that area.

Numbersix · July 26th, 2012, 06:44 AM

If I didn't already have (won) my Ninjette, I'd have gone with the Ciberette. Easier maintenance schedule, EFI, and higher MPG are nice to have.

However, there's zero chance I'll sell Zorak to buy one. The above points are not that dramatic. The Ninjette is a touch better in the performance department, and IMO also better in the styling area (plus it's GREEN).

CZroe · July 26th, 2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Redgeneral

Basically the same thing. Except when they charge you up front, you might as well dispose of them properly since it would be free (since you already paid for it). Instead of making someone pay at disposal, then people decide to just toss them on the side of the road or in the bush to avoid paying the fees.

It's still bullcrap. They charge an electronic waste disposal fee at the time of purchase too, as if I plan on ever throwing away my collectible videogame consoles and such. I don't buy things I plan to throw away someday... not even cellphones.

Tires are consumables, I know, but I paid an e-waste fee for my M11x notebook in CA that I now have in GA just like I paid a tire fee in CA that I had to pay for disposal in GA (double-taxed). That can't be legal. Even things that are considered consumables aren't always. If I get a collectable Coke can and add it to my display shelf, I have to pay a so-called "refund value" that can never be refunded without relinquishing my own property.

alex.s · July 26th, 2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kcaja1

I didn't tell the sales person that I'm from VA. I talked to him as if I'm local to that area.

they were probably bullshitting both you and my friend to be honest

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CZroe

It's still bullcrap. They charge an electronic waste disposal fee at the time of purchase too, as if I plan on ever throwing away my collectible videogame consoles and such. I don't buy things I plan to throw away someday... not even cellphones.

Tires are consumables, I know, but I paid an e-waste fee for my M11x notebook in CA that I now have in GA just like I paid a tire fee in CA that I had to pay for disposal in GA (double-taxed). That can't be legal. Even things that are considered consumables aren't always. If I get a collectable Coke can and add it to my display shelf, I have to pay a so-called "refund value" that can never be refunded without relinquishing my own property.

Jeeze, you must get scammed out of at least $20 a year. What a terrible country this is

CZroe · July 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Jeeze, you must get scammed out of at least $20 a year. What a terrible country this is

My gaming laptop and $5,000 TV were hundreds at a time. Multiply that by the entire population of CA collectors and cross-state purchasers and it's A LOT. They know about it, count on it, and that's the whole reason they charge it at the time of purchase instead of disposal. These are real "taxes" that are disguised as refunds which will never be refunded and disposal/recycling fees for items that you never intend to dispose of or recycle. I still have my Atari 2600, NES, SNES, Genesis, Gameboy, N64, Virtual Boy, etc right up to the Wii, PS3, XBOX 360, and gaming PCs throughout the years (saved as legacy compatibility systems). Very few things have failed that I could not fix/refurbish and I plan to pass them on to my children. It could total THOUSANDS if CA had their way back then, despite the fact that I am the ideal purchaser for limiting electronics waste (PUNISH your partners?!).

RoHS (Pb-Free; Lead-free) initiatives have caused more electronics in landfills than anything else. At least they aren't full of lead anymore.

Even limited to the scope of only video-gaming, massive quantities of PS3, 360, and PC GPU failures have all been attributed to it. The problem with the RoHS BGA GPUs was that they often took a whole laptop to the grave with them!

alex.s · July 26th, 2012, 03:14 PM

could be thousands if it was in effect back then... if the rates were what they are today. but they wouldnt have been. because there wasnt as big of a waste problem back then. now theres all that waste from before there was any kind of tax (you may horde-- i mean collect game consoles, doesnt mean everyone else does) who paid for that? when random people dump **** in public dumpsters that has toxic waste (lead-- basically any electronics) who pays for it? the government. where does the government get money? taxes.

Jiggles · July 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM

If you paid 5g for a TV you probably should not be complaining about "fees" that are around 1% of the cost of the item

ninjaone · July 26th, 2012, 07:56 PM

Seems like there are definitely some factory incentives going around for the CBR250R:

http://www.southernhonda.com/2012-Ho...Type=1787&fm=1

sendler · July 27th, 2012, 01:14 PM

The CBR250R is chronically sold out where I am in upstate NY. Kawasaki is missing the boat with the 250 class by not supplying enough Ninjas. My local dealer only gets 4 per year and the Honda dealer has sold 20.

July 24th, 2012, 05:07 PM	#1
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	new cbr250rs - $3000otd? http://www.funbike.com/shop/honda/2012-honda-cbr250r/ they apparently have not sold a single cbr250 since they got this shipment in and dont want to deal with them any more so they are selling their stock at cost. __________________________________________________

July 24th, 2012, 05:26 PM	#5
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	*All prices DO NOT include tax, doc, and license, freight & setup. All units subject to availability. $2000 in fees __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 24th, 2012, 05:28 PM	#7
7oxSin MSF Coach! Name: Lupe Location: Antioch, Tennessee Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 ninja 250 Posts: 886	cant wait to see a vs vid __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered wanna ride the dragon? Ninjette group ride! May 16th-20th Join the Ride!!http://www.ninjette.org/forums/group.php?groupid=35

July 24th, 2012, 05:29 PM	#8
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Well its certainly not $3000 OTD __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 25th, 2012, 09:44 AM	#12
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	My friend talked to them. 3k otd. __________________________________________________

July 24th, 2012, 05:22 PM	#3
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Wow. That's a ****in' deal!

July 24th, 2012, 05:26 PM	#4
tooblekain ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Triumph Bonneville; 2008 Ninja 250r (trackbike) Posts: 748	Not bad at all...but figure in the additional costs to race prep it. I wonder though...does the Ninja 250 or the CBR250 have the upper edge in terms of performance?

July 24th, 2012, 07:35 PM	#9
menikmati crash 250, get supersport Name: Richard Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R SE (Sold 6/9/14), 2009 ZX-6R (Sold 6/25/14), Subaru BRZ Posts: A lot.	Whatever you do, don't give FBC your primary phone number as they will harass the **** out of you every day, even if you tell them you're not interested anymore or you've already made a purchase somewhere else.

July 24th, 2012, 07:48 PM	#10
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Buy one then immediately change the exhaust because the stock can seriously sounds like a lawnmower.

July 25th, 2012, 11:00 AM	#14
itsEnZo ninjette.org member Name: Jared Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): None.. YET Posts: 41	That offer is soooooo tempting >.>

July 25th, 2012, 11:04 AM	#15
Chubbs032 ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: LA Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 199	looking nice...it's a little lighter (30lbs?). What about the power figures?

July 25th, 2012, 11:38 AM	#16
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	its slower you can find used new-gens for cheaper than this if you want a racebike. but if you want a cheap street bike with less power, style and ability than the ninja... __________________________________________________

July 25th, 2012, 01:00 PM	#17
kcaja1 ninjette.org member Name: Ross Location: NoVA Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R Posts: 214	I called the store and here's the breakdown: 2999 - motorcycle 395 - freight 495 - handling 3.50 - tire fee 46 - registration 305.65 - sales tax 55 - documentation 60 - licensing Total is 4359.15 hahahahaha what a real BS deal __________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------- --Power is nothing without control-- -----------------------------------------

July 25th, 2012, 02:06 PM	#19
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	WTF is the TIRE FEE for? lol

July 25th, 2012, 02:25 PM	#21
iplante I ride like a granny Name: Isabelle Location: Minneapolis Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja 250R - EX250F Posts: 521 Blog Entries: 1	Thanks Mason

July 25th, 2012, 02:27 PM	#22
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	ross, im sure it was so high because you called from across the country. freight and handling to ship it to nova is going to be high. the documentation licensing registration and sales tax will still be there... but thats not really paying the dealership thats paying the government. they have them sitting down there at their shop and they have been there for quite some time. it would be easy to get the frieght and handling taken off in person im sure __________________________________________________

July 25th, 2012, 02:33 PM	#23
dino74 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: dino Location: Oceanside, Ca Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 250 Street, '09 250 Race, '13 300 Race Posts: A lot.	I posted this before ... its a good vid about racing 250CBRs Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ CVMA #55

July 26th, 2012, 06:44 AM	#28
Numbersix ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: MI Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Honda Elite 110 (deceased), Green 2012 Ninja 250 (sold on Pi day); Grey/Green 2019 Ninja 400 ABS Posts: 238	If I didn't already have (won) my Ninjette, I'd have gone with the Ciberette. Easier maintenance schedule, EFI, and higher MPG are nice to have. However, there's zero chance I'll sell Zorak to buy one. The above points are not that dramatic. The Ninjette is a touch better in the performance department, and IMO also better in the styling area (plus it's GREEN).

July 26th, 2012, 03:14 PM	#33
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	could be thousands if it was in effect back then... if the rates were what they are today. but they wouldnt have been. because there wasnt as big of a waste problem back then. now theres all that waste from before there was any kind of tax (you may horde-- i mean collect game consoles, doesnt mean everyone else does) who paid for that? when random people dump **** in public dumpsters that has toxic waste (lead-- basically any electronics) who pays for it? the government. where does the government get money? taxes. __________________________________________________

July 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM	#34
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	If you paid 5g for a TV you probably should not be complaining about "fees" that are around 1% of the cost of the item __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 26th, 2012, 07:56 PM	#35
ninjaone ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Phx Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): CBR Posts: 145	Seems like there are definitely some factory incentives going around for the CBR250R: http://www.southernhonda.com/2012-Ho...Type=1787&fm=1

July 27th, 2012, 01:14 PM	#36
sendler ninjette.org member Name: Scott Location: Syracuse Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250, 2011 Honda CBR250R, 07 Ninja 650 Posts: 212	The CBR250R is chronically sold out where I am in upstate NY. Kawasaki is missing the boat with the 250 class by not supplying enough Ninjas. My local dealer only gets 4 per year and the Honda dealer has sold 20. __________________________________________________ http://www.fuelly.com/driver/sendler/cbr250r