08+ Rearset Adjusters

NinjetteMan · May 9th, 2009, 08:10 AM

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I stumbled upon this thread on the other forum. Looks to be a nice product and a good price...

http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134166

islanderman7 · May 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM

I think kelly has a pair of these. Check the DIY.

NinjetteMan · May 9th, 2009, 12:09 PM

These are somewhat lower priced than Kelly's and U.S. made

thebulbousone · May 9th, 2009, 01:00 PM

made by ian at cycle control out of pittsburgh pa. ... nice stuff and making american made adjustable levers also.... www.cyclecontrol.com ...250 stuff in 2 weeks approximately...

thebulbousone · May 16th, 2009, 01:37 PM

a sneak peak.... ian does awesome work.....

zail · May 16th, 2009, 01:54 PM

Have just put my name on the list for a set of these - he's hoping to be shipping by next Monday with the adjustable levers ready in 10 -14 days...

Buffalony · May 16th, 2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zail

Have just put my name on the list for a set of these - he's hoping to be shipping by next Monday with the adjustable levers ready in 10 -14 days...

I hope so. I cant stand being cramped any longer. Theres no way in hell I'm goin to ride the NE rally in the fetal position.

Tubesock · June 12th, 2009, 03:20 PM

I just put mine on, I love them! I had one small snag but Ian's going out of his way to help me with it. Awesome product from an awesome company.

Ken · June 12th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Looks great! My box is waiting at home so I can't wait to install them!

RaceBikeRentals · June 13th, 2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubesock

I just put mine on, I love them! I had one small snag but Ian's going out of his way to help me with it. Awesome product from an awesome company.

Maybe shorten that rear brake line a bit? Looks a bit pinched. If you don't use your rear brake, no big deal eh?

Tubesock · June 14th, 2009, 12:00 AM

Hasn't caused me any problems yet, but that is something to be done. I just haven't done it yet.

ninjablk08 · June 20th, 2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebulbousone

a sneak peak.... ian does awesome work.....

got mine in black, total 65.00 bucks shipped , they are great,no problems installing them and adjusting shifter

CANTFUNCTION · July 1st, 2009, 06:12 PM

I just installed mine. I also ran into same snags.

1. Had to retap all the holes because the bolts wouldn't go all the way through adjusters. Good thing I had the tap and didn't have to go buy one.

2. Left side didn't line up right. Had to make the holes a little bigger.

3. Made a plate to move the brake reservoir back to prevent the hose from kinking.

ShelbyOne · July 2nd, 2009, 02:05 PM

yeah, the threads on the provided hardware were a little rough. I had to force one on the left side. (probably a re-tap later) I think if you cleaned them up a little bit before installation they would go in smooth.
Otherwise I am happy with these. I thought they would give a little more leg room. (33" inseam) but I really like the sportier feel!

Banzai · July 3rd, 2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANTFUNCTION

I just installed mine. I also ran into same snags.

1. Had to retap all the holes because the bolts wouldn't go all the way through adjusters. Good thing I had the tap and didn't have to go buy one. That sucks. No good reason to have to retap the holes out of the box!

2. Left side didn't line up right. Had to make the holes a little bigger. Could be possible variations in the frames, but still a "Fail" for a product that offered so much promise.

3. Made a plate to move the brake reservoir back to prevent the hose from kinking. Good deal on that one. Throw a black wrist band on the brake resivoir and it'll dissapear.

sharky nrk · July 3rd, 2009, 06:20 AM

looks like a little QA work is all they need to be a good product

kylerwhite · July 3rd, 2009, 05:34 PM

I've ordered a set myself. It's been a week and a half so they should be here soon. I can't wait to get them mounted. Now I just need my clip-ons to show up.

CANTFUNCTION · July 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM

Thomas

I was going to return them but being a holiday weekend it would take another week or more to get a new set. I think I will still call Cycle Control up and tell Ian that he does need to check these things before he send them out.

I only need about 2 more threads for the bolt to go through the adjusters. I think the adjusters were taped on a table. So the tap just stop when it hit the table.

I think you may be right about variations in the frames. It also might be poor workmanship. But that's what you get for $65.

I am happy with them I just wished Ian would have gotten all the bugs out before he put them into production

IanYoung · July 4th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Hey guys,

I just want to clear some things up about our adjusters.

1.) The threads are intentionally left tight at the end. This acts as a fool proof self-locking mechanism. We can not expect people to use a thread locker on the bolts.

Partially because I'm sure there would be that one person that uses a type that is permanent and destroy the threads/hardware trying to remove them. Also because I'm sure many people installing them don't have thread locker sitting around, and would just put them on without.... which would be OK 99% of the time, but there would be that one where the bolts came loose and something happened.

So, that is why the bolts get tight at the end of the threads. You just need to use a little pressure and run them in. You WILL NOT hurt the threads. They are formed (not cut) with a Roll Tap. Meaning that instead of your normal tap that CUTS the threads into the metal, the Roll Tap FORMS the threads by pushing material into the thread shape. This yields a VERY STRONG thread, even in aluminum.

2.) The few of you that had trouble with the left (shifter) side bracket not fitting quite right.

After I became aware of this I went and measured a few more bikes. I measured a total of 8 08-09 250's and got 5 different measurements! (all within 0.5mm) What this tells me is that Kawi's tolerances are a bit less strict than I have seen on other bikes... even other Kawis. (maybe they have frames coming from more than one place?)

We were basically making the brackets to a tolerance of 0.1mm of our original measurements... so if you have one of the bikes that was toward the far end of the spectrum you're bracket/frame combination could be off by 0.5mm... not much, but enough to make things a little tight.

This has now been fixed and all the kits we have in stock have slightly larger mounting holes to allow for this slight variation. Also, any kit shipped within the last week or so is also the updated part.

So if you have a part that isn't quite right, please bring it to my attention. I will do what ever I can to make it right. If you have one of the brackets that isn't lining up quite right and would like a replacement please let me know. The best way to get a hold of me is via e-mail to Ian@cyclecontrol.com.

Thanks guys, have a great 4th of July! I'm off to a BBQ then some dirtbike riding

I'll be back to work first thing Monday

kkim · July 4th, 2009, 10:11 AM

Welcome Ian,

How about running a special on your products here on Ninjette for our members?

zail · July 4th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Waiting for mine to arrive... hurry up overseas post!!!!!

noche_caliente · July 4th, 2009, 11:11 AM

great to see that you made it over Ian!

CANTFUNCTION · July 4th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Ian,

Thanks for taking the time to clearing up the problems that I was having. I see why there were no threads at the end of the adjusters now. I've never hear of this type fool proof self-locking system before. Was this your design? I was afraid of stripping out the adjusters this is why I used a tap so the bolt would go in smoothly. And just to let you know I did use blue lock tight on them. All the changes I made to the adjusters were because I wanted them on and didn't want to have to return them.

Again Ian thanks clarifying my problems that I had with the adjusters. I hope you will become a regular member here.

JaeL · July 5th, 2009, 01:44 PM

what's everyone doing about the brake line?

NJD022588 · July 6th, 2009, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeL

what's everyone doing about the brake line?

I have woodcraft rearsets, but I'm sure its the same issue... At first I forgot I needed to do something with it and ended up driving 15 miles with it rubbing the tire.

Since then, I have hooked it on the on the outside of the rearset, preventing it from swinging out into the tire. You could also zip-tie it out of the way. Its too much of a pain to take one end loose and cut it.

ShelbyOne · July 11th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeL

what's everyone doing about the brake line?

I just re-routed mine up under the seat. Like this:

brakeline.jpg

With the rearsets adjusted to the full rear position there is enough hose. If you wanted to mount the fluid reservoir completely horizontal you will need to get a slightly longer one. Use a 5/8' drill bit for a tight fit.

backinthesaddleagain · July 11th, 2009, 08:42 PM

looks like there are a couple different sets of holes for different placements. how far back and up can these move the pegs?

CANTFUNCTION · July 12th, 2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

looks like there are a couple different sets of holes for different placements. how far back and up can these move the pegs?

There are 5 different setting. Mine are set at the lowest setting which is about 2 3/4 inches back 1 1/2 inches up.

backinthesaddleagain · July 12th, 2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANTFUNCTION

There are 5 different setting. Mine are set at the lowest setting which is about 2 3/4 inches back 1 1/2 inches up.

Thanks - much appreciated.

IanYoung · July 14th, 2009, 12:09 PM

Thank you all for the welcome. Sorry it's taken me so long to come back to post

I've been working very hard to get a prototype steering damper ready for our July 24th track day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

Welcome Ian,

How about running a special on your products here on Ninjette for our members?

I think I could put something together for the month of August. Can someone put me in contact with the the Admins of the board?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANTFUNCTION

Ian,

Thanks for taking the time to clearing up the problems that I was having. I see why there were no threads at the end of the adjusters now. I've never hear of this type fool proof self-locking system before. Was this your design? I was afraid of stripping out the adjusters this is why I used a tap so the bolt would go in smoothly. And just to let you know I did use blue lock tight on them. All the changes I made to the adjusters were because I wanted them on and didn't want to have to return them.

Again Ian thanks clarifying my problems that I had with the adjusters. I hope you will become a regular member here.

No problem, I like to make sure ALL our customers are happy. Like I said, if you have issues, please don't hesitate to bring them to my attention, we'll make it good.

The way we thread the adjusters IS part of the design. We're always thinking

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

looks like there are a couple different sets of holes for different placements. how far back and up can these move the pegs?

Like posted there are 5 positions. (measurements in MM)

kkim · July 14th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanYoung

I think I could put something together for the month of August. Can someone put me in contact with the the Admins of the board?

PM forum user/owner Alex.

Thank you for your consideration for placing specials here.

M-Oorb · July 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Woohoo...more money spendinggg

sugizo_esp · July 15th, 2009, 06:14 AM

How does this work with the stock shift linkage?

Will the gear shift be pointed to the ground when adjusted to the far top and back setting?

dimeified · July 15th, 2009, 06:50 AM

Can anyone post pictures of seating positions with the bike in stock form, and also with the rearset adjusters set for max legroom? I am interested in how much a difference this makes, at 6'1 i feel my bike could use a little more legroom.

CANTFUNCTION · July 15th, 2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugizo_esp

How does this work with the stock shift linkage?

Will the gear shift be pointed to the ground when adjusted to the far top and back setting?

No Cycle Control sends you 2 different size rods that attach to the the stock shift linkage.

CANTFUNCTION · July 15th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimeified

Can anyone post pictures of seating positions with the bike in stock form, and also with the rearset adjusters set for max legroom? I am interested in how much a difference this makes, at 6'1 i feel my bike could use a little more legroom.

Bill

Sorry, I didn't have any pictures of the stock setting. But in post 13 there are pictures of the adjusters in lowest setting. Which gave me the most legroom with the adjusters. I would say you would loss legroom by putting these on, because you are going to move the foot peg up and back. Hopes this helps.

dimeified · July 16th, 2009, 06:03 AM

It does, thanks for the info. Actually after riding around for the first time ever yesterday, its amazing how much roomier the bike feels when your not cramped between 100 others in the bike shop!

M-Oorb · July 21st, 2009, 08:18 PM

So any new news on a possible group buy? I hope interest is up there so we can drive down the price as low as possible

gizmogamez · July 22nd, 2009, 05:16 AM

I'd be interested in these for sure.

IanYoung · July 22nd, 2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Oorb

So any new news on a possible group buy? I hope interest is up there so we can drive down the price as low as possible

Sure, let's start a list... how's 1% off per person up to 20% sound?

We'll collect names for 2 weeks, then see where we're at.

Sound good? Let me know, maybe want to start a new thread?

May 9th, 2009, 08:10 AM	#1
NinjetteMan ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: City of Angels Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Kawi 250R Posts: 48	08+ Rearset Adjusters Don't know if this has been mentioned, but I stumbled upon this thread on the other forum. Looks to be a nice product and a good price... http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134166

May 9th, 2009, 12:03 PM	#2
islanderman7 The Sexy Filipino Name: Jordan Location: Bakersfield, Ca Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2008 (da black one) Posts: 312	I think kelly has a pair of these. Check the DIY. __________________________________________________ Area P CF Standard,Airbox Removed,K&N R-0990,Factory Pro Jet Kit 3.0, Zero Gravity DB I'm not riding too fast... I'm flying too low.

May 16th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#6
zail ninjette.org member Name: zail Location: Bristol, UK Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250r Posts: 156	Have just put my name on the list for a set of these - he's hoping to be shipping by next Monday with the adjustable levers ready in 10 -14 days... __________________________________________________ Bristol, UK - R&G Tail Tidy, Exhaust Hanger, Bar ends & Crash Protectors, Skidmarx Hugger & Double Bubble, SW motech mirror extenders, Scorpion Exhaust, Cycle Control levers & Rearset Adjusters

June 12th, 2009, 04:48 PM	#9
Ken "Is that the Ninjer 1000? Name: Ken Location: SoCal SGV Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Quarter Liter Kawi Posts: 275	Looks great! My box is waiting at home so I can't wait to install them! __________________________________________________ My Mods

June 14th, 2009, 12:00 AM	#11
Tubesock ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Chatta-vegas Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Posts: 69	Hasn't caused me any problems yet, but that is something to be done. I just haven't done it yet. __________________________________________________ "When I die I want mud on my jump boots, magazine empty, and barrel hot."

May 9th, 2009, 12:09 PM	#3
NinjetteMan ninjette.org member Name: Joe Location: City of Angels Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 Kawi 250R Posts: 48	These are somewhat lower priced than Kelly's and U.S. made

May 9th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#4
thebulbousone ninjette.org member Name: mason Location: columbus, ohio Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	made by ian at cycle control out of pittsburgh pa. ... nice stuff and making american made adjustable levers also.... www.cyclecontrol.com ...250 stuff in 2 weeks approximately...

July 2nd, 2009, 02:05 PM	#14
ShelbyOne ninjette.org member Name: Dave Location: Alaska Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250R Posts: 41	yeah, the threads on the provided hardware were a little rough. I had to force one on the left side. (probably a re-tap later) I think if you cleaned them up a little bit before installation they would go in smooth. Otherwise I am happy with these. I thought they would give a little more leg room. (33" inseam) but I really like the sportier feel!

July 3rd, 2009, 06:20 AM	#16
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	looks like a little QA work is all they need to be a good product

July 3rd, 2009, 05:34 PM	#17
kylerwhite 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Name: Kyle Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R Posts: 43	I've ordered a set myself. It's been a week and a half so they should be here soon. I can't wait to get them mounted. Now I just need my clip-ons to show up.

July 3rd, 2009, 05:38 PM	#18
CANTFUNCTION ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Georgia Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250(red) Posts: 193	Thomas I was going to return them but being a holiday weekend it would take another week or more to get a new set. I think I will still call Cycle Control up and tell Ian that he does need to check these things before he send them out. I only need about 2 more threads for the bolt to go through the adjusters. I think the adjusters were taped on a table. So the tap just stop when it hit the table. I think you may be right about variations in the frames. It also might be poor workmanship. But that's what you get for $65. I am happy with them I just wished Ian would have gotten all the bugs out before he put them into production

July 4th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#19
IanYoung ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: Pittsburgh, PA Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6 Posts: 11	Hey guys, I just want to clear some things up about our adjusters. 1.) The threads are intentionally left tight at the end. This acts as a fool proof self-locking mechanism. We can not expect people to use a thread locker on the bolts. Partially because I'm sure there would be that one person that uses a type that is permanent and destroy the threads/hardware trying to remove them. Also because I'm sure many people installing them don't have thread locker sitting around, and would just put them on without.... which would be OK 99% of the time, but there would be that one where the bolts came loose and something happened. So, that is why the bolts get tight at the end of the threads. You just need to use a little pressure and run them in. You WILL NOT hurt the threads. They are formed (not cut) with a Roll Tap. Meaning that instead of your normal tap that CUTS the threads into the metal, the Roll Tap FORMS the threads by pushing material into the thread shape. This yields a VERY STRONG thread, even in aluminum. 2.) The few of you that had trouble with the left (shifter) side bracket not fitting quite right. After I became aware of this I went and measured a few more bikes. I measured a total of 8 08-09 250's and got 5 different measurements! (all within 0.5mm) What this tells me is that Kawi's tolerances are a bit less strict than I have seen on other bikes... even other Kawis. (maybe they have frames coming from more than one place?) We were basically making the brackets to a tolerance of 0.1mm of our original measurements... so if you have one of the bikes that was toward the far end of the spectrum you're bracket/frame combination could be off by 0.5mm... not much, but enough to make things a little tight. This has now been fixed and all the kits we have in stock have slightly larger mounting holes to allow for this slight variation. Also, any kit shipped within the last week or so is also the updated part. So if you have a part that isn't quite right, please bring it to my attention. I will do what ever I can to make it right. If you have one of the brackets that isn't lining up quite right and would like a replacement please let me know. The best way to get a hold of me is via e-mail to Ian@cyclecontrol.com. Thanks guys, have a great 4th of July! I'm off to a BBQ then some dirtbike riding I'll be back to work first thing Monday

July 4th, 2009, 10:11 AM	#20
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Welcome Ian, How about running a special on your products here on Ninjette for our members?

July 4th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#21
zail ninjette.org member Name: zail Location: Bristol, UK Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250r Posts: 156	Waiting for mine to arrive... hurry up overseas post!!!!! __________________________________________________ Bristol, UK - R&G Tail Tidy, Exhaust Hanger, Bar ends & Crash Protectors, Skidmarx Hugger & Double Bubble, SW motech mirror extenders, Scorpion Exhaust, Cycle Control levers & Rearset Adjusters

July 4th, 2009, 11:11 AM	#22
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	great to see that you made it over Ian! __________________________________________________ Progrip tank pad, blue rim stripes, blue Pazzos, Roaring Toyz lowering kit, Puig DB in dark smoke, Cortech sport tail, super mini tank, and saddlebags, OES swingarm spools and Intuitive frame sliders

July 4th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#23
CANTFUNCTION ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Georgia Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250(red) Posts: 193	Ian, Thanks for taking the time to clearing up the problems that I was having. I see why there were no threads at the end of the adjusters now. I've never hear of this type fool proof self-locking system before. Was this your design? I was afraid of stripping out the adjusters this is why I used a tap so the bolt would go in smoothly. And just to let you know I did use blue lock tight on them. All the changes I made to the adjusters were because I wanted them on and didn't want to have to return them. Again Ian thanks clarifying my problems that I had with the adjusters. I hope you will become a regular member here.

July 5th, 2009, 01:44 PM	#24
JaeL Bike Thrasher Name: JaeL Location: Omaha Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 EX250r Posts: 334 Blog Entries: 10	what's everyone doing about the brake line? __________________________________________________ Intuitive Sliders, Aftermarket pegs, Custom Paint, Seat Cowl, Tinted Screen, Aftermarket flush mounts, Wheel Tape, Fender Chopped, Stock Shortie Exhaust and Woodcraft ClipOns

July 11th, 2009, 08:42 PM	#27
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	looks like there are a couple different sets of holes for different placements. how far back and up can these move the pegs?

July 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#32
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	Woohoo...more money spendinggg

July 15th, 2009, 06:14 AM	#33
sugizo_esp ninjette.org newbie Name: John Location: Sydney Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 8	How does this work with the stock shift linkage? Will the gear shift be pointed to the ground when adjusted to the far top and back setting?

July 15th, 2009, 06:50 AM	#34
dimeified ninjette.org guru Name: Lucas Location: Pompton Lakes, NJ Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Blue 250R Posts: 446	Can anyone post pictures of seating positions with the bike in stock form, and also with the rearset adjusters set for max legroom? I am interested in how much a difference this makes, at 6'1 i feel my bike could use a little more legroom.

July 16th, 2009, 06:03 AM	#37
dimeified ninjette.org guru Name: Lucas Location: Pompton Lakes, NJ Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Blue 250R Posts: 446	It does, thanks for the info. Actually after riding around for the first time ever yesterday, its amazing how much roomier the bike feels when your not cramped between 100 others in the bike shop!

July 21st, 2009, 08:18 PM	#38
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	So any new news on a possible group buy? I hope interest is up there so we can drive down the price as low as possible

July 22nd, 2009, 05:16 AM	#39
gizmogamez ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE Green Posts: 217	I'd be interested in these for sure.

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