2011 Formula 1 - Official Thread

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2011, 11:58 AM

Ok, its only official because I say it is, but I did this last year, and thought I should do it again this year.

This year’s off season was relatively calm compared to last year, as far as driver/team changes goes.

Here is a quick look at notable technical/rules changes for 2011
- Tire supplier has changed from Bridgestone to Pirelli
- KERS will be allowed again, after FOTA agreed not to use it for 2010
- Cars will have mandatory 46/54 (F/R) weight ratio
- F-Duct systems are banned, replaced by driver adjustable rear wing systems, but is restricted in it’s use. For instance the car must be within 1 second of car in front, the system is not usable within first 2 laps of the race (unless there is an early safety car), and it is only allowed to be used on designated parts of the circuit. Markings will be placed on the track to designate this passing zone, and provide visual identification of the 1 sec gap needed.
- Double rear diffusers have been banned, as have exhaust-blown diffusers where hot, fast-moving exhaust is directed over the diffuser.
- There are also a number of aerodynamic changes to limit the use of extraneous aero devices, ban the connection of the engine cowling to the rear wing, ban aero wheel spokes, and prohibit the use of flexible front wing elements.
- Gearboxes must last 5 races now instead of 4.
- The 107% qualifying rule has been reinstalled.
- Team orders are allowed, but any team using coded messages meant to deceive fans or other teams will be penalized.

Also F1 races will now be broadcast in true HD!!

Now for the team lineups and schedules

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Teams and Drivers
Red Bull Racing
Drivers : 1 Sebastian Vettel (GER)
          2 Mark Webber (AUS)
Constructor : Red Bull
Chassis : RB7
Engine: Renault RS27-2011

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Drivers : 3 Lewis Hamilton (GBR)
          4 Jenson Button (GBR)
Constructor : McLaren
Chassis : MP4-26
Engine : Mercedes FO 108Y

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
Drivers : 5 Fernando Alonso (ESP)
          6 Felipe Massa (BRA)
Constructor : Ferrari
Chassis : F150
Engine : Ferrari 056

Mercedes GP Petronas F1 Team
Drivers : 7 Michael Schumacher (GER)
          8 Nico Rosberg (GER)
Constructor : Mercedes
Chassis : MGP W02
Engine : Mercedes FO 108Y

Lotus Renault GP
Drivers : 9 Robert Kubica (POL)
          10 Vitaly Petrov (RUS)
Constructor : Renault
Chassis : R31
Engine : Renault RS27-2011

AT&T Williams
Drivers : 11 Rubens Barrichello (BRA)
          12 Pastor Maldonado (VEN)
Constructor : Williams
Chassis : FW33
Engine : Cosworth CA2011

Force India F1 Team
Drivers : 14 Adrian Sutil (GER)
          15 Paul Di Resta (GBR) 
Constructor : Force India 
Chassis : VJM04
Engine : Mercedes FO 108Y

Sauber F1 Team
Drivers : 16 Kamui Kobayashi (JPN)
          17 Sergio Perez (MEX)
Constructor : Sauber
Chassis : C30
Enigne : Ferrari 056

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Drivers : 18 Sebastien Buemi (SUI)
          19 Jaime Alguersuari (ESP)
Constructor : Toro Rosso
Chassis : STR6
Engine : Ferrari 056

Team Lotus
Drivers : 20 Jarno Trulli (ITA)
          21 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN)
Constructor : Lotus
Chassis : T128
Engine : Renault RS27-2011

Hispania Racing Team
Drivers : 22 Narain Karthikeyan (IND)
          23 TBA
Constructor : HRT
Chassis : F111
Engine : Cosworth CA2011

Marussia Virgin Racing
Drivers : 24 Timo Glock (GER)
          25 Jerome d’Ambrosio (BEL)
Constructor : Virgin
Chassis : MVR-02
Engine : Cosworth CA2011

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2011 Test Calendar
Feb 1-3 -- Valencia
Feb 10-13 -- Jerez
Feb 18-21 -- Barcelona
Mar 3-6 -- Bahrain
Mar 8-11 -- Barcelona


2011 Race Calendar
Round ## – Bahrain GP – Mar 11-13 Postponed
Round 01 – Australian GP – Mar 25-27
Round 02 – Malaysian GP – Apr 8-10
Round 03 – Chinese GP – Apr 15-17
Round 04 – Turkish GP – May 6-8
Round 05 – Spanish GP – May 20-22
Round 06 – Monaco GP – May 27-29
Round 07 – Canadian GP – June 10-12
Round 08 – European GP – June 24-26
Round 09 – British GP – July 8-10
Round 10 – German GP – July 22-24
Round 11 – Hungarian GP – July 29-31
Round 12 – Belgian GP – Aug 26-28
Round 13 – Italian GP – Sep 9-11
Round 14 – Singapore GP – Sep 23-25
Round 15 – Japanese GP – Oct 7-9
Round 16 – Korean GP – Oct 14-16
Round 17 – Indian GP – Oct 28-30
Round 18 – Abu Dhabi GP – Nov 11-13
Round 19 – Brazilian GP -  Nov 25-27

I will update shortly with links to pictures of the new cars, and the results from the first test.

I will also make a post for each GP as the season progresses, just like last year. I know this will come as no news to the avid fan, but for the casual fan it should make all the information readily available.

It will also give us a place to “discuss” the season as it progresses.

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2011, 12:06 PM

Jan 28 – Ferrari F150
Jan 31 – Lotus T128
Jan 31 – Lotus Renault R31
Jan 31 – Sauber C30
Feb 1 – Mercedes MGP W02
Feb 1 – Red Bull RB7
Feb 1 – Toro Rosso STR6
Feb 1 – Williams FW33
Feb 4 – McLaren MP4-26
Feb 7 - Virgin
Feb 8 – Force India
Feb 8 – Hispania

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2011, 12:16 PM

Day 1 (Feb 1)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault*     1m13.769s            93
 2.  Nico Hulkenberg     Force India-Mercedes  1m13.938s  + 0.169s  71
 3.  Gary Paffett        McLaren-Mercedes      1m14.292s  + 0.523s  91
 4.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m14.461s  + 0.692s  28
 5.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari*              1m14.553s  + 0.784s  97
 6.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari*       1m15.621s  + 1.852s  68
 7.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m16.003s  + 2.234s  71
 8.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault*              1m16.351s  + 2.582s  28
 9.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes*             1m16.450s  + 2.681s  15
10.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari*   1m17.214s  + 3.445s  19
11.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth*    1m17.335s  + 3.566s  77
12.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT-Cosworth          1m18.020s  + 4.251s  45
13.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes*             1m19.930s  + 6.161s  9

* 2011 car

Day 2 (Feb 2)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Team                   Time               Laps
 1.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari                1m13.307s           108
 2.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull Renault       1m13.614s  +0.307    43
 3.  Paul Di Resta       Force India Mercedes*  1m13.844s  +0.537   111
 4.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren Mercedes*      1m14.353s  +1.046    83
 5.  Robert Kubica       Renault                1m14.412s  +1.105   104
 6.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes               1m14.645s  +1.338    69
 7.  Timo Glock          Virgin Cosworth*       1m15.408s  +2.101    34
 8.  RubensBarrichello   Williams Cosworth      1m16.023s  +2.716    51
 9.  Sergio Perez        Sauber Ferrari         1m16.198s  +2.891    42
10.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams Cosworth      1m16.266s  +2.959    29
11.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso Ferrari     1m16.359s  +3.052    46
12.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso Ferrari     1m16.474s  +3.167    64
13.  Mark Webber         Red Bull Renault       1m17.365s  +4.058    17
14.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT Cosworth*          1m17.769s  +1.165    80
15.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus Renault          1m20.649s  +7.342    15

* 2010 car

Day 3 (Feb 3)

Code:

Pos Driver               Team                   Time       Gap    Laps
 1. Robert Kubica        Renault                1m13.144s           95
 2. Adrian Sutil         Force India Mercedes*  1m13.201s  +0.057  117
 3. Jenson Button        McLaren Mercedes*      1m13.553s  +0.409  105
 4. Mark Webber          Red Bull Renault       1m13.936s  +0.792  105
 5. Felipe Massa         Ferrari                1m14.017s  +0.873   80
 6. Timo Glock           Virgin Cosworth*       1m14.207s  +1.063  114
 7. Pastor Maldonado     Williams Cosworth      1m14.299s  +1.155  101
 8. Sergio Perez         Sauber Ferrari         1m14.469s  +1.325  104
 9. Michael Schumacher   Mercedes               1m14.537s  +1.393  110
10. Sebastien Buemi      Toro Rosso Ferrari     1m14.801s  +1.657   73
11. Narain Karthikeyan   HRT Cosworth*          1m16.535s  +3.391   63
12. Jarno Trulli         Lotus Renault          no time             38

*2010 car

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2011, 12:28 PM

Check out Renault's work around to the banning of exhaust blown diffusers. Instead of the exhaust going over the diffuser it is actually directed forward, and sucked through the diffuser.

Red Bull is also implementing an exhaust-blown diffuser, but doesn't use a long forward exiting exhaust, and exploits a loop hole in the rules allowing the outer 5cm of the diffuser to be exposed at the front.

And photos of a fire on Massa's car show Ferrari is also directing exhaust gases into the starter hole of the diffuser

All these come from Craig Scarborough's site which is a very good resource for techinical F1 information.

Alex · February 3rd, 2011, 01:34 PM

HKr1 · February 3rd, 2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Team orders are allowed, but any team using coded messages meant to deceive fans or other teams will be penalized.

"Do You Understand" LOL

And dam, I almost forgot all about F1.

CC Cowboy · February 3rd, 2011, 03:19 PM

With Daytona having a new surface, I think they should run an F-1 race there. There isn't a bad seat in the house and you can see the entire track(kinda) from the stands.

There is an airport close by, a beach close by, a highway close by, many hotels close by, and plenty of parking (close by).

If anyone sees Bernie in the near future, tell him he needs to get F-1 at Daytona.

Yasko · February 3rd, 2011, 10:33 PM

Go Lewis Go!!!

Please let McLaren have a descent car this year...

camaroz1985 · February 4th, 2011, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

Go Lewis Go!!!

Please let McLaren have a descent car this year...

I'm with you on that thought.

McLaren's launch pictures have been added to post #2

tiggen · February 4th, 2011, 09:01 AM

Fernando Alonso is a tool. That is all.

CC Cowboy · February 4th, 2011, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

Go Lewis Go!!!

Yea, GO AWAY!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggen

Fernando Alonso is a tool. That is all.

Would that be a hammer or a screw driver?

CC Cowboy · February 5th, 2011, 12:27 PM

Anyone interested in owning a piece of Williams?

They are going public in March.

CC Cowboy · February 5th, 2011, 12:29 PM

Rossi has been confirmed to drive for the Fortec Motorsports team competing in the World Series by Renault (aka Formula Renault 3.5 series) Championship

Yasko · February 5th, 2011, 01:47 PM

The McLaren MP4-26 looks real good...Let's hope it's as fast as it looks...Lewis has been a caged Tiger for two years...I hope this car will help him be free...

Alex · February 7th, 2011, 02:05 AM

Looks like Kubica banged himself up pretty good in a rally car crash this weekend. May not be able to start the F1 season.

link to cnn story

JeffM · February 7th, 2011, 07:33 AM

Quote:

- F-Duct systems are banned, replaced by driver adjustable rear wing systems, but is restricted in it’s use. For instance the car must be within 1 second of car in front, the system is not usable within first 2 laps of the race (unless there is an early safety car), and it is only allowed to be used on designated parts of the circuit. Markings will be placed on the track to designate this passing zone, and provide visual identification of the 1 sec gap needed.

camaroz1985 · February 7th, 2011, 07:39 AM

Yikes, always liked Kubica. I'm sure he will bounce back, but yeah, the beginning of the season looks doubtful. Of course everyone thought the same for Webber's broken leg, but I think that was earlier in the off season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Would that be a hammer or a screw driver?

Which tool is the most arrogant?

camaroz1985 · February 7th, 2011, 08:25 AM

Kubica woke up and was able to move his fingers. May need another surgery to repair his elbow and shoulder.

Added Virgin release pictures to post 2.

CC Cowboy · February 7th, 2011, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Which tool is the most arrogant?

Hamilton

camaroz1985 · February 10th, 2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Hamilton

Not by a long shot.

HRT, and Force India launches have bee updated in post 2

camaroz1985 · February 10th, 2011, 01:42 PM

Day 1 (Feb 10)

Code:

Pos  Driver             Car                   Time       Gap
 1.  Felipe Massa       Ferrari               1m20.709s
 2.  Sergio Perez       Sauber-Ferrari        1m21.483s  + 0.774s
 3.  Mark Webber        Red Bull-Renault      1m21.522s  + 0.813s
 4.  Daniel Ricciardo   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m21.755s  + 1.046s
 5.  Lewis Hamilton     McLaren-Mercedes      1m21.914s  + 1.205s
 6.  Jaime Alguersuari  Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m22.689s  + 1.980s
 7.  Adrian Sutil       Force India-Mercedes  1m23.472s  + 2.763s
 8.  Vitaly Petrov      Renault               1m23.504s  + 2.795s
 9.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m23.963s  + 3.254s
10.  Jarno Trulli       Lotus-Renault         1m24.458s  + 3.749s
11.  Timo Glock         Virgin-Cosworth       1m25.086s  + 4.377s
12.  Pastor Maldonado   Williams-Cosworth     1m34.968s  + 14.259s

Day 2 (Feb 11)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m20.352s            112
 2.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m20.413s  + 0.061s  116
 3.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m21.009s  + 0.657s  69
 4.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m21.214s  + 0.862s  72
 5.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m21.613s  + 1.261s  113
 6.  Adrian Sutil        Force India-Mercedes  1m21.780s  + 1.428s  73
 7.  Sergio Perez        Sauber-Ferrari        1m21.857s  + 1.505s  56
 8.  Timo Glock          Virgin-Cosworth       1m22.208s  + 1.856s  57
 9.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault               1m22.493s  + 2.141s  65
10.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams-Cosworth     1m22.591s  + 2.239s  38
11.  Jarno Trulli        Lotus-Renault         1m23.216s  + 2.864s  40

Day 3 (Feb 12)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Nick Heidfeld       Renault               1m20.361s            86
 2.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m20.493s  + 0.132s  131
 3.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m21.054s  + 0.693s  114
 4.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m21.099s  + 0.738s  36
 5.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m21.242s  + 0.881s  84
 6.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m21.574s  + 1.213s  98
 7.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m21.681s  + 1.320s  92
 8.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus-Renault         1m21.711s  + 1.350s  61
 9.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m22.227s  + 1.866s  99
10.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m22.945s  + 2.584s  64
11.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m25.471s  + 5.110s  72

Day 4 (Feb 13)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m19.832s            103
 2.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m20.601s  + 0.769s  86
 3.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m21.074s  + 1.242s  115
 4.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m21.213s  + 1.381s  90
 5.  Bruno Senna         Renault               1m21.400s  + 1.568s  68
 6.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus-Renault         1m21.632s  + 1.800s  43
 7.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m22.103s  + 2.271s  45
 8.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m22.222s  + 2.390s  90
 9.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m22.278s  + 2.446s  70
10.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m22.985s  + 3.153s  45
11.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m23.111s  + 3.279s  99

Yasko · February 10th, 2011, 10:49 PM

I hope Felipe has a very good year, and piss off Alonso...

camaroz1985 · February 14th, 2011, 07:37 AM

Test times are updated. A lot of variety at the top, but this is testing so teams are trying all kinds of different things.

Also nice to see the teams running decals saying "Speedy recovery Robert" in polish.

Kubica is undergoing a final surgery on his elbow on wednesday, and his doctor's say he is making good progress.

Nick Heidfeld tested for Renault, and is the leading candidate to be Kubica's substitute.

HKr1 · February 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM

Kubica needs prayers

Quote:

Feb.14 (GMM) Robert Kubica's condition has worsened over the weekend, according to his girlfriend.

Polish news channel TVN 24 quoted the Renault driver's partner Edyta as saying Kubica is not as well as he was before his latest surgery.

"His state has somewhat worsened, both in regards to his physical and psychological state," she said.

Kubica, 26, had been removed from intensive care but he is back, Edyta Witas confirmed.

"Robert has had worse days, but he is strong and he knows that staying in ICU is the best solution for him. His life is not in danger," she clarified.

Yasko · February 14th, 2011, 10:24 PM

I hope he's well very soon...He's a very good guy...God bless him and his family...

camaroz1985 · February 15th, 2011, 06:44 AM

Conflicting news stories. I read that he was in ICU because they didn't want him to go through a ward change before his final surgery, and that he was making great progress. Time will tell, but I hope everything goes well. It is a shame, Renault looks to have a good car this year, and the man that could really do something special with it won't be able to drive it.

CC Cowboy · February 15th, 2011, 09:37 AM

He is a tough bugger. Remember Montreal!

camaroz1985 · February 16th, 2011, 08:53 AM

Yeap. He will be back, when is the question. I would bet it is sooner than they say it will.

camaroz1985 · February 18th, 2011, 07:33 AM

Hopefully the Bahrain test and race will go as plan. Wake up people your rights are secondary to our race schedule, quit being so selfish.

Yasko · February 18th, 2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Hopefully the Bahrain test and race will go as plan. Wake up people your rights are secondary to our race schedule, quit being so selfish.

...I didn't think think about the race...Maybe they'll put it at the end of the race season...

tiggen · February 18th, 2011, 09:08 AM

Don't know if y'all have seen this, but I really enjoyed it.

http://smibs.tv/the-flying-lap/Senna

HKr1 · February 18th, 2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Hopefully the Bahrain test and race will go as plan. Wake up people your rights are secondary to our race schedule, quit being so selfish.

Cancel that bitch, and never go back! Who needs 20 races anyway? It's a track weekend for us after all, now I dont have to dvr it....

Thats just me being hostile

camaroz1985 · February 21st, 2011, 08:15 AM

Call me greedy I want as many races as possible. The teams are making a decision on the test today.

camaroz1985 · February 21st, 2011, 08:18 AM

Day 1 (Feb 18)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Car/team              Time       Gap        Laps
 1.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m24.374s             37
 2.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m25.485s  + 1.111s   101
 3.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m25.638s  + 1.264s   57
 4.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m25.641s  + 1.267s   78
 5.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m26.365s  + 1.991s   77
 6.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m26.575s  + 2.201s   26
 7.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m26.912s  + 2.538s   52
 8.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m27.512s  + 3.138s   90
 9.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT-Cosworth          1m28.393s  + 4.019s   116
10.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus-Renault         1m30.065s  + 5.691s   54
11.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m30.950s  + 6.576s   116
12.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault               1m35.174s  + 10.800s  20
13.  Nick Heidfeld       Renault               1m44.324s  + 19.950s  27

Day 2 (Feb 19)

Code:

Pos  Driver       Team                  Time                 Laps
 1.  Vettel       Red Bull-Renault      1m23.315s             104
 2.  Alguersuari  Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m23.519s   + 0.204   97
 3.  Alonso       Ferrari               1m23.978s   + 0.663   90
 4.  Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m24.008s   + 0.693   118
 5.  Heidfeld     Renault               1m24.242s   + 0.927   41
 6.  Kobayashi    Sauber-Ferrari        1m24.243s   + 0.928   125
 7.  Rosberg      Mercedes              1m24.730s   + 1.415   131
 8.  Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m24.923s   + 1.608   54
 9.  Di Resta     Force India-Mercedes  1m25.194s   + 1.879   80
10.  Kovalainen   Lotus-Renault         1m26.421s   + 3.106   58
11.  Petrov       Renault               1m26.884s   + 3.569   61
12.  Liuzzi       HRT-Coswrorth         1m27.044s   + 3.729   70
13.  Glock        Virgin-Cosworth       1m27.242s   + 3.927   66
14.  Teixeira     Lotus-Renault         1m31.584s   + 8.269   26

Day 3 (Feb 20)

Code:

Pos  Driver              Team/car              Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m23.168s            92
 2.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault               1m23.463s  + 0.295s  93
 3.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m23.858s  + 0.690s  93
 4.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams-Cosworth     1m24.815s  + 1.647s  60
 5.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m24.995s  + 1.827s  139
 6.  Jarno Trulli        Lotus-Renault         1m25.454s  + 2.286s  48
 7.  Sergio Perez        Sauber-Ferrari        1m25.557s  + 2.389s  115
 8.  Adrian Sutil        Force India-Mercedes  1m25.720s  + 2.552s  102
 9.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m26.155s  + 2.987s  31
10.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m26.508s  + 3.340s  123
11.  Timo Glock          Virgin-Cosworth       1m26.598s  + 3.430s  97
12.  Giorgio Mondini     Hispania-Cosworth     1m28.178s  + 5.010s  39
13.  Daniel Ricciardo    Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m28.329s  + 5.161s  42
14.  Narain Karthikeyan  Hispania-Cosworth     1m30.722s  + 7.554s  32

Day 4 (Feb 21)

Code:

Pos  Driver        Team                   Time               Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari                1m22.625s           121
 2.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault       1m23.442s  + 0.817   69
 3.  Buemi         Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1m23.550s  + 0.925   90
 4.  Heidfeld      Renault                1m23.657s  + 1.032   95
 5.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes       1m24.003s  + 1.378  107
 6.  Maldonado     Williams-Cosworth      1m24.057s  + 1.432  121
 7.  Sutil         Force India-Mercedes   1m24.177s  + 1.552   64
 8.  Perez         Sauber-Ferrari         1m24.515s  + 1.890   74
 9.  D'Ambrosio    Virgin-Cosworth        1m26.501s  + 3.876   50
10.  Schumacher    Mercedes               1m27.079s  + 4.454  114
11.  Trulli        Lotus-Renault          1m29.992s  + 7.367   18

CC Cowboy · February 21st, 2011, 09:25 AM

I believe there is some car ownership involved also. The Royal family and McLaren.

camaroz1985 · February 21st, 2011, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I believe there is some car ownership involved also. The Royal family and McLaren.

That is true, partial ownership.

It is official. The terrorists have won.

CC Cowboy · February 21st, 2011, 09:34 AM

I wasn't going to go anyway.

tiggen · February 21st, 2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I believe there is some car ownership involved also. The Royal family and McLaren.

They talked about that on Wind Tunnel last night. Did you catch it? IIRC, they said that the upstarts don't give two hoots about F1, and were they to win, there is a low probability of F1 staying.

camaroz1985 · February 22nd, 2011, 08:20 AM

Right, they see the race as remaining sign of the royal family, and probably wouldn't want to keep it. I'm fine with that. Australia should be the first race anyway, and with new races in the US next year and later Russia, something has to give. Despite what Bernie thinks they can't keep adding races and expect the same level. We see it now when a team falls behind the just stop development, and start focusing on the following year.

If losing Bahrain means they don't do something stupid like dropping a classic European track than I am all for it.

camaroz1985 · February 23rd, 2011, 07:15 AM

The last test has been rescheduled for March 8-11 in Barcelona.

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February 3rd, 2011, 12:06 PM	#2
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Team Launch Schedule/Pictures Jan 28 – Ferrari F150 Jan 31 – Lotus T128 Jan 31 – Lotus Renault R31 Jan 31 – Sauber C30 Feb 1 – Mercedes MGP W02 Feb 1 – Red Bull RB7 Feb 1 – Toro Rosso STR6 Feb 1 – Williams FW33 Feb 4 – McLaren MP4-26 Feb 7 - Virgin Feb 8 – Force India Feb 8 – Hispania Last futzed with by camaroz1985; February 10th, 2011 at 01:39 PM.

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February 3rd, 2011, 10:33 PM	#8
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February 4th, 2011, 09:01 AM	#10
tiggen ninjette.org guru Name: John Location: Atlanta Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 250 Posts: 333	Fernando Alonso is a tool. That is all.

February 5th, 2011, 01:47 PM	#14
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	The McLaren MP4-26 looks real good...Let's hope it's as fast as it looks...Lewis has been a caged Tiger for two years...I hope this car will help him be free...

February 7th, 2011, 08:25 AM	#18
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Kubica woke up and was able to move his fingers. May need another surgery to repair his elbow and shoulder. Added Virgin release pictures to post 2.

February 10th, 2011, 10:49 PM	#22
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I hope Felipe has a very good year, and piss off Alonso...

February 14th, 2011, 07:37 AM	#23
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Test times are updated. A lot of variety at the top, but this is testing so teams are trying all kinds of different things. Also nice to see the teams running decals saying "Speedy recovery Robert" in polish. Kubica is undergoing a final surgery on his elbow on wednesday, and his doctor's say he is making good progress. Nick Heidfeld tested for Renault, and is the leading candidate to be Kubica's substitute.

February 14th, 2011, 10:24 PM	#25
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I hope he's well very soon...He's a very good guy...God bless him and his family...

February 15th, 2011, 06:44 AM	#26
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Conflicting news stories. I read that he was in ICU because they didn't want him to go through a ward change before his final surgery, and that he was making great progress. Time will tell, but I hope everything goes well. It is a shame, Renault looks to have a good car this year, and the man that could really do something special with it won't be able to drive it.

February 15th, 2011, 09:37 AM	#27
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	He is a tough bugger. Remember Montreal! __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 16th, 2011, 08:53 AM	#28
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Yeap. He will be back, when is the question. I would bet it is sooner than they say it will.

February 18th, 2011, 07:33 AM	#29
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Hopefully the Bahrain test and race will go as plan. Wake up people your rights are secondary to our race schedule, quit being so selfish.

February 18th, 2011, 09:08 AM	#31
tiggen ninjette.org guru Name: John Location: Atlanta Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 250 Posts: 333	Don't know if y'all have seen this, but I really enjoyed it. http://smibs.tv/the-flying-lap/Senna

February 21st, 2011, 08:15 AM	#33
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Call me greedy I want as many races as possible. The teams are making a decision on the test today.

February 21st, 2011, 09:25 AM	#35
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I believe there is some car ownership involved also. The Royal family and McLaren. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 21st, 2011, 09:34 AM	#37
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I wasn't going to go anyway. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 22nd, 2011, 08:20 AM	#39
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Right, they see the race as remaining sign of the royal family, and probably wouldn't want to keep it. I'm fine with that. Australia should be the first race anyway, and with new races in the US next year and later Russia, something has to give. Despite what Bernie thinks they can't keep adding races and expect the same level. We see it now when a team falls behind the just stop development, and start focusing on the following year. If losing Bahrain means they don't do something stupid like dropping a classic European track than I am all for it.

February 23rd, 2011, 07:15 AM	#40
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	The last test has been rescheduled for March 8-11 in Barcelona.

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