Squid Video Productions Presents...Cornering at GMR - Page 2

alex.s · July 6th, 2011, 11:22 AM

oh no! what happened?

adri99an · July 6th, 2011, 12:48 PM

Moto GP Kevin and Super Bike Jeremy hit A LOT of debris in a turn....

The three of us hit GMR this morning around 8:40 am.... Both Kevin and jeremy did very well on all the technical turns (I was impressed since it was their first time there)...we all came down into Azusa Hwy 39...lots of straight aways with some sweepers....made our way toward Crystal Lake with Kevin leading- Jeremy following and me bringing up the rear.... (I had lead all the way until now....wanted to get footage of these two ripping it up). They were doing great for some time (10-15 min)...really getting into the turns- good speed......and what lay ahead.....a nice sweeper going right with A TON of debris...I mean dirt that you could see at least 300 yeards away....when I saw it I thought to myself....gentlemen please go around it!!!! These two Super bike psychos go into the mouth of the devil....I slow down and and I've already made up my mind that I have to go around it....there goes Jeremy low siding and just around the bend is Kevin picking himself up. Kevin had this HUGE grin on his face....he looked like he enjoyed himself...he was like ATGATT!! His frame sliders and Jeremy's frame sliders worked!!!!!!! Minimal damage to the bike.

Jeremy on the hand- the way he went down...I believe popped his collar bone out of place. We decided not to pop it back in in fear of more pain and he was in pain!!! We didn't noticed his collar bone sticking out till we saw a huge bump under his shirt....I was like daaaaammmm. There was no cell service- we were 10 min from Crystal Lake.....and about 25 min from the freeway... (I think Kevin was reaaallyyy thirsty- and that's why he was racing up the canyon)...We gathered our bearings and got Jeremy's jacket on (dude was in so much pain) and headed out of the canyon together- UNITED- as Ninjetters do (Semper Fi). We ALL got out of the canyon together and back on the freeway. Kevin and I hit a gas station for some drinks (90+ degrees by now). We were going to hit GMR again but Kevin noticed his front brake was acting weird- so we departed. I headed back up GMR!!! I had t get my RIDE on!!

Will post this on new ride report thread.....

Kevin2109 · July 6th, 2011, 12:49 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...3&postcount=17

adri99an · July 6th, 2011, 12:53 PM

Kevin's fault...he said race ya to the top and took off!

Xoulrath · July 6th, 2011, 01:05 PM

Glad to hear you guys had fun, and glad all is well after the mishap.

Havok · July 6th, 2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypnoKhaos

Made it home safely. Bike in garage. Time to see doctor.

Nm missed the summation.

I hope you guys are ok.

adri99an · July 6th, 2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok

Did you go down in gmr as well?

Kevin and Jeremy did....and it wasn't GMR it was Azusa Hwy 39

alex.s · July 6th, 2011, 03:03 PM

dang jeremy get well soon! collar breaks suck pretty bad.

adri99an · July 6th, 2011, 03:06 PM

Okay Jeremy is fine----badly bruised shoulder!!!!! And a good video of him doing it...coming soon!

adri99an · July 6th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Okay Jeremy is fine--

diagnosis>>>>badly bruised shoulder!!!!! And a good video of him doing it...coming soon!

ducducgooseit · July 6th, 2011, 03:09 PM

Ok. THAT video is very very very funny.

Havok · July 6th, 2011, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adri99an

Okay Jeremy is fine--

diagnosis>>>>badly bruised shoulder!!!!! And a good video of him doing it...coming soon!

Glad to hear both of you guys are ok, lay off the brakes in turns.

Kevin2109 · July 6th, 2011, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok

Glad to hear both of you guys are ok, lay off the brakes in turns.

Hey now, there was no braking. Just gravel and gravity lol

Alex · July 6th, 2011, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin2109

Hey now, there was no braking. Just gravel and gravity lol

Your taillight betrays you.

EDIT: Sorry about that, I was confusing you and Jeremy. In the future, let's limit the tip-overs to one ninjette per ride so we can keep them straight.

almost40 · July 7th, 2011, 11:12 AM

OUCH.
Bummer.

Kevin2109 · July 14th, 2011, 02:37 PM

Link to original page on YouTube.

adri99an · July 14th, 2011, 05:09 PM

Nice vid buddy...where do you get your music from? I liked that 2nd song.

jamesio · July 15th, 2011, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin2109

Link to original page on YouTube.

It's so...flashy

k-os · July 15th, 2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesio

It's so...flashy

Yeah I'm not sure I like all the transitions in the video. Would have liked to see just a straight ride. Seeing all these ride videos makes me want to get a GoPro even more.

ninja250 · July 15th, 2011, 08:24 AM

Get an iphone with a RAM mount. Works just as good and triples as phone and music and appstore on wheels..

PS the first song was tight. Need to find out who that is!

Kevin2109 · July 15th, 2011, 08:57 AM

First song

Ephixa - Lost Woods (Dubstep Remix)

Second song

Mt Eden Dubstep - Sarah Mclachlan Silence

Maybe its just me but I'm not a fan of just one long footage, It gets boring lol

adri99an · July 16th, 2011, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesio

It's so...flashy

Daaam that boy in front can ride!!! Who dat????

HypnoKhaos · July 17th, 2011, 12:54 AM

Awesome edit Kevin

adri99an · July 17th, 2011, 07:43 AM

Kevo- I thnk your vid needs MORE transitions...I kept blinking thinking my eyes were dry but it was the video blinking-

Rexbo · July 19th, 2011, 08:18 PM

come out to a track day soon... quit messing around in the mountains! There's two fairly cheap track nights coming up at streets of willow with motoyard. You'll learn more in one night than in a week in the mountains

Kevin2109 · July 19th, 2011, 08:20 PM

How much is cheap? I would love to go

adri99an · July 19th, 2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexbo

come out to a track day soon... quit messing around in the mountains! There's two fairly cheap track nights coming up at streets of willow with motoyard. You'll learn more in one night than in a week in the mountains

Give us a track day scenario....

price? protection? bike changes?

Zombiphone · July 19th, 2011, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adri99an

Give us a track day scenario....

price? protection? bike changes?

I can help with this. You will need:
-A truck/cargo van/vehicle with a trailer (You can technically ride your bike there, but I really wouldn't recommend it in case you crash and because you won't be able to transport anything. I tow my bike with a Celica, so where there's a will, there's a way)
-Either a one piece suit or a two piece that zips together, along with an uncrashed helmet/full length boots/gloves/and in most cases a back protector (I also recommend earplugs, but those aren't mandatory)
-Bike prep- Tape or remove mirrors/reflectors/license plate and tape off any wheel weights and lenses, pull the fuses or plugs on the brake and head lights, swap coolant for water wetter, straight water, or engine ice, and good tires. (If anyone thinks it'd help, maybe I'll do a simple DIY on the conversion when I'm prepping for my next day out?)
-A lot of drinking water

Once you have that squared away, it gets pretty easy. Typically, the price of admittance for the day is anywhere from $100-$200 depending on the track/day/organization, and most track organizations have classes for first timers (Sometimes at an additional charge). You sign up online in advance then you'll arrive at the track, unload your bike, and confirm your registration. Then you'll take your bike to tech and they'll do a simple inspection. Afterwards, everyone will be called to a mandatory rider's meeting and they'll teach you about entering and exiting the track, flags, what to do if you crash, desert tortoises (

), ect ect ect.

In most cases, the day will run in a 3 group format (Advanced/Intermediate/Beginner), each group getting 20 minutes of each hour on the track starting at 9:00, ending at 5:00 (Doesn't sound like much, but trust me when I say it's plenty- especially during the summer when it's over 100 out). At all times, there will be Control Riders or Instructors on the track who will be more than happy to give you a tow, show you lines, follow you and critique your riding, and just generally be fantastic. Use these guys liberally <3

And that's all there is to it. The hardest part is getting everything you need for your first time, but after that it's pretty simple to get out there. I feel like I learned more in my first day than I did an entire year on the street. The road will never feel the same afterwards.

Some great orgs to ride with:
TrackDaz (My personal favorite)
Motoyard
Ti2TT
TrackXperience

[/tl;dr post]

ninja250 · July 19th, 2011, 10:44 PM

Have fun at the track, ladies.

Zombiphone · July 19th, 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja250

fun at the track

Right, and you will have a ridiculous amount of this. You'll never believe how elating cornering is when you can do it at the edge of your ability, faster than you've ever considered on the street, with the entire road at your disposal, clear vision of the entire corner, and no fear of hazards or oncoming traffic.

There's really nothing else like it <3

ninja250 · July 19th, 2011, 11:06 PM

I don't need a track.
I don't want a track.
I don't like 99% of the people who go to the track. Nor their attitudes. (which is where my 'tude came from)
I will not have fun under that type of pressure.

I have fun when I am relaxed. Riding at my own free will. There's really nothing else like it.
I don't need people to have fun on my bike. I learn at an amazing pace on my own.

PS if I ever did learn to track you'd all be in trouble anyway. You know it.

I never took my BMX bikes to the track. I rode flatland.
Dirtbikes, never. Freestyle.
Never took my hondas to any tracks. I drifted and canyon raced.
I'm not taking my bikes to a track. I play with the devil.
I'm satisfied with that.

I also work and go fishing and have 200 other hobbies. I don't have time to load my bike up and drive away to ride it. Let alone time to finish the damn gear gauge for it.

I'm glad you found the track. It sounds like it suits you well.

Zombiphone · July 19th, 2011, 11:21 PM

It's cool, dude. None of this was directed at you. No one is going to force you to have fun on a closed circuit. But for those who ARE interested in learning and enjoying the benefits that the track has to offer, I just thought I'd break it down a bit. I apologize for acknowledging that things that you have no interest in have to exist. Carry on.

ninja250 · July 19th, 2011, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombiphone

directed at you. Carry on.

When I'm quoted I may get that impression. Sry!

Glad to see you can take it so maturely, like most rats of the track.

adri99an · July 20th, 2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombiphone

I can help with this. You will need:
-A truck/cargo van/vehicle with a trailer (You can technically ride your bike there, but I really wouldn't recommend it in case you crash and because you won't be able to transport anything. I tow my bike with a Celica, so where there's a will, there's a way)
-Either a one piece suit or a two piece that zips together, along with an uncrashed helmet/full length boots/gloves/and in most cases a back protector (I also recommend earplugs, but those aren't mandatory)
-Bike prep- Tape or remove mirrors/reflectors/license plate and tape off any wheel weights and lenses, pull the fuses or plugs on the brake and head lights, swap coolant for water wetter, straight water, or engine ice, and good tires. (If anyone thinks it'd help, maybe I'll do a simple DIY on the conversion when I'm prepping for my next day out?)
-A lot of drinking water

Once you have that squared away, it gets pretty easy. Typically, the price of admittance for the day is anywhere from $100-$200 depending on the track/day/organization, and most track organizations have classes for first timers (Sometimes at an additional charge). You sign up online in advance then you'll arrive at the track, unload your bike, and confirm your registration. Then you'll take your bike to tech and they'll do a simple inspection. Afterwards, everyone will be called to a mandatory rider's meeting and they'll teach you about entering and exiting the track, flags, what to do if you crash, desert tortoises (

), ect ect ect.

In most cases, the day will run in a 3 group format (Advanced/Intermediate/Beginner), each group getting 20 minutes of each hour on the track starting at 9:00, ending at 5:00 (Doesn't sound like much, but trust me when I say it's plenty- especially during the summer when it's over 100 out). At all times, there will be Control Riders or Instructors on the track who will be more than happy to give you a tow, show you lines, follow you and critique your riding, and just generally be fantastic. Use these guys liberally <3

And that's all there is to it. The hardest part is getting everything you need for your first time, but after that it's pretty simple to get out there. I feel like I learned more in my first day than I did an entire year on the street. The road will never feel the same afterwards.

Some great orgs to ride with:
TrackDaz (My personal favorite)
Motoyard
Ti2TT
TrackXperience

[/tl;dr post]

Thanks Tiff....that is a great breakdown of a trackday. I see you love it and are very knowledgeable. I will consider a track day in the future...

Let me know when you're ready to hit GMR now that you've TRACKED it up and have more experience under your belt I've named that turn you lowsided on....Zombi-Turn.

I just got back from hitting GMR for 3 hours and I had a blast.

I'm going to have to try and get to a track to compare. I guess what I love is that GMR is 5 minutes from me and on a weekday 8-7pm it is pretty empty. I've been up there so much it is kinda my "track" although I don't treat it as such but I pretty much know every corner and what type of turn it is as well as the speed I will need or not need....I'm so comfortable up there it's like my second home.

Anyhoo---thanks for the info and I'm going to say KC will NOT be going to a track anytime soon!

Zombiphone · July 20th, 2011, 01:45 PM

They don't call it Glendora Mountain Raceway for nothin'!

Haha, I still have the fairing scrapes for decoration. I went out there after my first trackday, rode through it properly without crashing, and haven't been back since. That was the defining moment that took me from just wanting to go to the track to actually doing it, so all's well that ends well

I don't ride street much anymore, but if you guys ever end up doing a nice, easy cruise, maybe I'll try to tag along

But yeah, if you ever have any questions about getting out to the track, I've accrued a reasonable amount of knowledge over the last year and I'd be happy to help. I'd highly recommend experiencing it at least once. And there aren't nearly enough 250s out there anyways sooooo you guys should probably work on fixing that

July 6th, 2011, 11:22 AM	#41
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	oh no! what happened? __________________________________________________

July 6th, 2011, 12:49 PM	#43
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...3&postcount=17 __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

July 6th, 2011, 01:05 PM	#45
Xoulrath ninjette.org sage Name: T Location: U.S. Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): Current: '11 ZX-6R; Previous: '09 Ninjette; '08 ZX-6R (Ex-Wife '09 TU250X) Posts: 981	Glad to hear you guys had fun, and glad all is well after the mishap. __________________________________________________ R.I.P EthioKnight (Alex)

July 6th, 2011, 03:03 PM	#48
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	dang jeremy get well soon! collar breaks suck pretty bad. __________________________________________________

July 7th, 2011, 11:12 AM	#55
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	OUCH. Bummer. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

July 6th, 2011, 12:48 PM	#42
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Moto GP Kevin and Super Bike Jeremy hit A LOT of debris in a turn.... The three of us hit GMR this morning around 8:40 am.... Both Kevin and jeremy did very well on all the technical turns (I was impressed since it was their first time there)...we all came down into Azusa Hwy 39...lots of straight aways with some sweepers....made our way toward Crystal Lake with Kevin leading- Jeremy following and me bringing up the rear.... (I had lead all the way until now....wanted to get footage of these two ripping it up). They were doing great for some time (10-15 min)...really getting into the turns- good speed......and what lay ahead.....a nice sweeper going right with A TON of debris...I mean dirt that you could see at least 300 yeards away....when I saw it I thought to myself....gentlemen please go around it!!!! These two Super bike psychos go into the mouth of the devil....I slow down and and I've already made up my mind that I have to go around it....there goes Jeremy low siding and just around the bend is Kevin picking himself up. Kevin had this HUGE grin on his face....he looked like he enjoyed himself...he was like ATGATT!! His frame sliders and Jeremy's frame sliders worked!!!!!!! Minimal damage to the bike. Jeremy on the hand- the way he went down...I believe popped his collar bone out of place. We decided not to pop it back in in fear of more pain and he was in pain!!! We didn't noticed his collar bone sticking out till we saw a huge bump under his shirt....I was like daaaaammmm. There was no cell service- we were 10 min from Crystal Lake.....and about 25 min from the freeway... (I think Kevin was reaaallyyy thirsty- and that's why he was racing up the canyon)...We gathered our bearings and got Jeremy's jacket on (dude was in so much pain) and headed out of the canyon together- UNITED- as Ninjetters do (Semper Fi). We ALL got out of the canyon together and back on the freeway. Kevin and I hit a gas station for some drinks (90+ degrees by now). We were going to hit GMR again but Kevin noticed his front brake was acting weird- so we departed. I headed back up GMR!!! I had t get my RIDE on!! Will post this on new ride report thread.....

July 6th, 2011, 12:53 PM	#44
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Kevin's fault...he said race ya to the top and took off!

July 6th, 2011, 03:06 PM	#49
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Okay Jeremy is fine----badly bruised shoulder!!!!! And a good video of him doing it...coming soon!

July 6th, 2011, 03:08 PM	#50
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Okay Jeremy is fine-- diagnosis>>>>badly bruised shoulder!!!!! And a good video of him doing it...coming soon!

July 6th, 2011, 03:09 PM	#51
ducducgooseit Name: ... Location: ... Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): ... Posts: 999	Ok. THAT video is very very very funny.

July 14th, 2011, 02:37 PM	#56
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

July 14th, 2011, 05:09 PM	#57
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Nice vid buddy...where do you get your music from? I liked that 2nd song.

July 15th, 2011, 08:24 AM	#60
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	Get an iphone with a RAM mount. Works just as good and triples as phone and music and appstore on wheels.. PS the first song was tight. Need to find out who that is! __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

July 15th, 2011, 08:57 AM	#61
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	First song Ephixa - Lost Woods (Dubstep Remix) Second song Mt Eden Dubstep - Sarah Mclachlan Silence Maybe its just me but I'm not a fan of just one long footage, It gets boring lol __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

July 17th, 2011, 12:54 AM	#63
HypnoKhaos Deep inside...your mind.. Name: Jeremy Location: Yucaipa Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Ninja Zx6r 636 Posts: 110	Awesome edit Kevin __________________________________________________ Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

July 17th, 2011, 07:43 AM	#64
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	Kevo- I thnk your vid needs MORE transitions...I kept blinking thinking my eyes were dry but it was the video blinking-

July 19th, 2011, 08:18 PM	#65
Rexbo CVMA / AFM / M1GP #250 Name: Steve Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r, 2011 Zero S, 2009 KLR 650 Posts: A lot.	come out to a track day soon... quit messing around in the mountains! There's two fairly cheap track nights coming up at streets of willow with motoyard. You'll learn more in one night than in a week in the mountains

July 19th, 2011, 08:20 PM	#66
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	How much is cheap? I would love to go __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

July 19th, 2011, 10:44 PM	#69
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	Have fun at the track, ladies. __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

July 19th, 2011, 11:06 PM	#71
ninja250 You are sleeping Name: Casey Location: LMFAO!!! Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2 Posts: A lot.	I don't need a track. I don't want a track. I don't like 99% of the people who go to the track. Nor their attitudes. (which is where my 'tude came from) I will not have fun under that type of pressure. I have fun when I am relaxed. Riding at my own free will. There's really nothing else like it. I don't need people to have fun on my bike. I learn at an amazing pace on my own. PS if I ever did learn to track you'd all be in trouble anyway. You know it. I never took my BMX bikes to the track. I rode flatland. Dirtbikes, never. Freestyle. Never took my hondas to any tracks. I drifted and canyon raced. I'm not taking my bikes to a track. I play with the devil. I'm satisfied with that. I also work and go fishing and have 200 other hobbies. I don't have time to load my bike up and drive away to ride it. Let alone time to finish the damn gear gauge for it. I'm glad you found the track. It sounds like it suits you well. __________________________________________________ <Yeah, it's a 250. LMFAO! Weaksauce

July 19th, 2011, 11:21 PM	#72
Zombiphone CVMA/AFM #72 Name: Tiffani Location: Los Angeles, Ca Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Racebike), 2015 FZ-07(Tourer), 2001 KX65(LOL bike) Posts: A lot.	It's cool, dude. None of this was directed at you. No one is going to force you to have fun on a closed circuit. But for those who ARE interested in learning and enjoying the benefits that the track has to offer, I just thought I'd break it down a bit. I apologize for acknowledging that things that you have no interest in have to exist. Carry on.

July 20th, 2011, 01:45 PM	#75
Zombiphone CVMA/AFM #72 Name: Tiffani Location: Los Angeles, Ca Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Racebike), 2015 FZ-07(Tourer), 2001 KX65(LOL bike) Posts: A lot.	They don't call it Glendora Mountain Raceway for nothin'! Haha, I still have the fairing scrapes for decoration. I went out there after my first trackday, rode through it properly without crashing, and haven't been back since. That was the defining moment that took me from just wanting to go to the track to actually doing it, so all's well that ends well I don't ride street much anymore, but if you guys ever end up doing a nice, easy cruise, maybe I'll try to tag along But yeah, if you ever have any questions about getting out to the track, I've accrued a reasonable amount of knowledge over the last year and I'd be happy to help. I'd highly recommend experiencing it at least once. And there aren't nearly enough 250s out there anyways sooooo you guys should probably work on fixing that

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