DIY - HID Headlight Conversion - Page 6

OldGuy · May 9th, 2009, 07:19 PM

I can't tell for sure, has anyone used the kit from DDM Tuning?

They have two models, both the same price.

One is for "motorcycles"

The other is an automotive but for H7's

Thanks in advance.

DsmRacing · May 11th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Which kit seems to be the best guys? I can't find the one from ebay, the link does not work anymore. Some seem to have quality issues, so I'm looking for a quality one. Please post up where I can purchase a setup.

Thanks,

Chad

hzrnbgy · May 11th, 2009, 10:27 AM

im using one of these

xenon kit

just make sure you get the H7 kit (thats the bulb size for our motorcycle)

paterick4o8 · May 11th, 2009, 10:41 AM

I'm using one from a brand called Xentec, with standard size ballasts. Got them on ebay. but you have to add washers to the bulb housing or whatever you call it (just like in the DIY instructions) and what not for a tight and perfect fit.

regular ballasts fit just fine

Here's some pictures of my work:

Regular ballasts and where I mounted

Ghetto style washers and tube for fit.. all rubber

After inserting back into headlight mount

Crappy picture after finished

Dipmode · May 11th, 2009, 11:22 AM

i just did this mod and THEN i found a diy thread but i got slim ballasts and i ended mounting them in about the same places but i used some cloth as a spacer inbetween the light bulb and the metal bracket thing to hold them in place but i got 8000k and it is the brightest thing on the road took me about an hr to install b/c i already had the bike fully naked

bluphobic · May 25th, 2009, 05:49 PM

HID's are installed flawlessly however I have a slight problem. When starting, the low beam flickers and will not start. I shut off and start again but this time holding the starter for a few seconds. When i apply this method, the light usually flickers then stays on.

Today, i no matter how long i held the starter down, the light would not stay on. So i rode around with the highbeam on instead. After riding for a 20min, i restarted the bike using the same procedures, and it worked.

Do you think upgrading to 15a fuse will alleviate the startup issue?

kkim · May 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM

no. try swapping ballasts between the hi and low.... or even just swapping the bulbs.

I have the same problem on occasion of it not starting with the bike, but a restart always makes the light come on for me.

you might have a loose connection in your low light setup, perhaps?

Sound Wave · May 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM

i doubt going to a higher fuse will be of any help.

the only thing i can think of is that your wiring may be loose, or your ballast is bad? i suppose you could try checking the connections or flip flopping the ballasts to see if the lows work and if your high beams have a problem after that. just a thought.

Sound Wave · May 25th, 2009, 06:13 PM

lol. we pretty much said the same thing at almost exactly the same time.

kkim · May 25th, 2009, 06:15 PM

I was just a bit quicker cause my bike is green.

bluphobic · May 27th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Checked all connections, even swapped ballasts. It still has the occasional issue of flickering and not turning on at all. Is there anything else to consider?

Sound Wave · May 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM

did you try swapping bulbs like kkim suggested?

kkim · May 27th, 2009, 07:49 PM

when you swapped ballasts, the problem did not follow the ballast? that is, the problem remained on the low light side... is that correct?

if the problem did not follow the ballast switch, swap the bulbs between the high and low lights while leaving everything else the same.

Sound Wave · May 27th, 2009, 07:50 PM

process of elimination.

xpander37 · May 28th, 2009, 02:40 AM

like paterick, i also got xentec off ebay ($50).... it was for use with motorcycles or autos..... came with a little adapter so that washers were not needed for installs on a motorcycle(had to dremel it a bit to fit)...... the adapter also made it so the factory rubber housing would fit snug around it, so no rubber housing mods were needed.....

huge difference, they sure are superbright....

over all a pretty easy install took me about an hr (minus bodywork disassembled).... was taking my time with the wiring (pretty lengthy wiring i must say).... recommended to everyone! for $50 you cant go wrong.

bluphobic · May 28th, 2009, 07:12 AM

When i installed the HID's, i just did the low beam. Haven't had a chance to test another bulb.

undergroundzombi · June 12th, 2009, 01:42 AM

I was wondering if you could tell me what to type in exactly on ebay so I get the right part. For one, I don't know what bulb type as I am picking up my 03 pre gen in less than 2 weeks and The ebay link is no longer valid. And this is a sweet diy. I'm good with mods but you just knocked out the guest work. Thanks for saving me some beer time in between steps

Posted via Mobile Device

undergroundzombi · June 12th, 2009, 02:04 AM

Sorry I missed the post someone answered h7's before as well as you stated but is there any specific company you prefer or wattage.
Posted via Mobile Device

g21-30 · June 12th, 2009, 03:40 AM

If you do a search on ebay for "hid lights", you will see many listings. Here is one of several that resembles what I purchased (roughly same price with shipping!!):

http://tinyurl.com/mhbyno

And I bought the 4300K in a 35W. Everything in the package looks just like mine.

camaroz1985 · June 12th, 2009, 06:25 AM

Why did you quote the entire DIY?

Justanothermp5 · June 12th, 2009, 07:03 AM

i just put the DDM slim line kit in my 09
didnt need to do any crap with those plastic washers just like i thought i wouldnt
i just used the spacer that came in the kit, cut one corner off and it fits perfectly

havent rode at night yet but its like the freakin sun is comin from my bike when i pull it in the garage lol got 8k or 6k, cant remember i got it off my other forums (mazdas247) for 90 with the lifetime warranty still

Alex · June 12th, 2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Why did you quote the entire DIY?

Fixed.

kkim · June 12th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undergroundzombi

For one, I don't know what bulb type as I am picking up my 03 pre gen in less than 2 weeks

Quote:

Originally Posted by undergroundzombi

Sorry I missed the post someone answered h7's before...

pregens do not use H7 bulbs.

shift_6 · June 22nd, 2009, 01:27 PM

wait, isn't putting HID's in a reflective housing bad? [cuz it causes so much glare?]

Rayme · June 22nd, 2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shift_6

wait, isn't putting HID's in a reflective housing bad? [cuz it causes so much glare?]

Yes but people do it anyway.. in any factory HID cars the bulb is never naked or exposed like when people put in HID's in the halogen housing..and that's just 1 problem regarding glare.

Retrofitting into H4 or 9007 (or any dual filament halogen system) is the worst since the light source location is extremely critical..and the aftermarket HID's are usually (in my experience) very low quality products since they aren't adhering to any sort of regulation or standards.

Retrofitting OEM projectors and oem component is the way to go, without glare, and will deliver superior lighting over cheap plug and play bulbs (but it's still illegal).

kkim · June 22nd, 2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shift_6

wait, isn't putting HID's in a reflective housing bad? [cuz it causes so much glare?]

it depends on the housing and each vehicle responds in a different way. I have no problems with mine. cutoff is just fine compared to sock.

don't believe everything you read on the Internet... good or bad.... try it yourself, if curious.

paterick4o8 · June 22nd, 2009, 03:30 PM

from my experience,

1) they do indeed help me see better
2) they help others (especially cagers) see me better in day and night

3) they look cool!

shift_6 · June 23rd, 2009, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

it depends on the housing and each vehicle responds in a different way. I have no problems with mine. cutoff is just fine compared to sock.

don't believe everything you read on the Internet... good or bad.... try it yourself, if curious.

true true, but just for the record, all those damn civics and accords w/ HID's in their reflector housings runnin around NYC blind the CRAP out of oncoming drivers.

kkim · June 23rd, 2009, 03:49 PM

most times it's due to mis aimed headlights, plus the fact that they are idiots.

To be honest though, if they have a dual filament type of bulb setup (which a lot of those Hondas do), the aftermarket HIDs do not make the transition as well, so I would tend to agree with you as the reflector assembly/bulb center focus themselves are poor candidates for a HID kit.

noche_caliente · June 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM

Got mine installed today

Will post pics and impressions tomorrow - it's getting too late now, and I need to go find some cornbread to eat

Also installing auxiliary turn signals on the back of my mirrors, relocating the rear turn signals, and putting on extra lights in the rear.... more details to follow

kkim · June 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM

remember to repoint them, if they are not adjusted correctly.... the headlights, I mean.

paterick4o8 · June 27th, 2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

I need to go find some cornbread to eat

I love corn bread

Ninjaboi57 · June 30th, 2009, 09:30 PM

I did my hid install today with full fairing removal and lowering in 1 hr. I have installed hids in many cars so it wasn't anything new.

Just one problem I am having which doesn't seem to relate but my left turn signal is not blinking but on constant and almost like a bulb blow out but not, I checked. I was a clumsy idiot after getting everything back together and went to take the bike off the rear stand and poof the bike falls over to the right. No major damage and found out about the signal thing when I started to ride.

Any help would be great.

Regards
Chan

Ninjaboi57 · June 30th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Feeling really stupid at the moment. Found out the problem. I forgot to plug the left side back in after taking the fairing off.

kkim · June 30th, 2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaboi57

Feeling really stupid at the moment. Found out the problem. I forgot to plug the left side back in after taking the fairing off.

lol... I've had that happen to me before.

remember to check the headlight aiming after doing the HIDs.

Ninjaboi57 · June 30th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Simplest things are always the culprits. They are aimed perfectly now since its dark..

paterick4o8 · June 30th, 2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaboi57

They are aimed perfectly now since its dark..

Just curious, what time does it get dark in Kent, WA? I remember when I was in Seattle, it was sunny longer since you're up North. Must be nice for riding and not having to go home as early as us down here

Ninjaboi57 · July 1st, 2009, 11:10 AM

Around this time a year the sun goes down are 9 and fully sets around 9:30ish. Yeah its nice to have sun longer. Winter time its like 5 sucks...

I aimed my lights and rode and they seem to high and when i check behind a car the cutoff is about an inch below the trunk line. I tried to adjust more turning the adjustment screw counterclockwise and it's tight and won't want to move. Help!!

kkim · July 1st, 2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaboi57

I aimed my lights and rode and they seem to high and when i check behind a car the cutoff is about an inch below the trunk line. I tried to adjust more turning the adjustment screw counterclockwise and it's tight and won't want to move. Help!!

That should be good, as far as aiming.

Ninjaboi57 · July 2nd, 2009, 12:32 AM

The beam seems too high when i ride and lights up trees and what not but not the road. Only glare beaming off the lights reflecting on to the road. I would like to try to adjust lower to the road.

Did I mention i am lowered in front and rear. Could this be the problem? That my rear is lower than the front hence light pointing up too much? I will take a pic. Kinda annoying that the lights are lighting up half a house up top and not below.

Chan

May 9th, 2009, 07:19 PM	#201
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	I can't tell for sure, has anyone used the kit from DDM Tuning? They have two models, both the same price. One is for "motorcycles" The other is an automotive but for H7's Thanks in advance. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

May 11th, 2009, 10:41 AM	#204
paterick4o8 ninjette.org sage Name: patricK Location: San Jose, CA--BAY AREA! Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 blue 250R [sold]. '09 lime ZX-6R [stolen :( ]. '06 blue 636. Posts: 918	I'm using one from a brand called Xentec, with standard size ballasts. Got them on ebay. but you have to add washers to the bulb housing or whatever you call it (just like in the DIY instructions) and what not for a tight and perfect fit. regular ballasts fit just fine Here's some pictures of my work: Regular ballasts and where I mounted Ghetto style washers and tube for fit.. all rubber After inserting back into headlight mount Crappy picture after finished Last futzed with by paterick4o8; May 12th, 2009 at 10:10 PM. Reason: clarity

June 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM	#230
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Dipmode ninjette.org member Name: Justin Location: Richmond va Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 kawaski ninja 250R, 2003 kawasaki ninja 636 zx-6r Posts: 10	i just did this mod and THEN i found a diy thread but i got slim ballasts and i ended mounting them in about the same places but i used some cloth as a spacer inbetween the light bulb and the metal bracket thing to hold them in place but i got 8000k and it is the brightest thing on the road took me about an hr to install b/c i already had the bike fully naked

May 25th, 2009, 05:49 PM	#206
bluphobic ninjette.org member Name: W Location: atlanta Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 46	HID's are installed flawlessly however I have a slight problem. When starting, the low beam flickers and will not start. I shut off and start again but this time holding the starter for a few seconds. When i apply this method, the light usually flickers then stays on. Today, i no matter how long i held the starter down, the light would not stay on. So i rode around with the highbeam on instead. After riding for a 20min, i restarted the bike using the same procedures, and it worked. Do you think upgrading to 15a fuse will alleviate the startup issue?

May 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM	#207
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	no. try swapping ballasts between the hi and low.... or even just swapping the bulbs. I have the same problem on occasion of it not starting with the bike, but a restart always makes the light come on for me. you might have a loose connection in your low light setup, perhaps?

May 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM	#208
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	i doubt going to a higher fuse will be of any help. the only thing i can think of is that your wiring may be loose, or your ballast is bad? i suppose you could try checking the connections or flip flopping the ballasts to see if the lows work and if your high beams have a problem after that. just a thought.

May 25th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#209
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	lol. we pretty much said the same thing at almost exactly the same time.

May 25th, 2009, 06:15 PM	#210
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I was just a bit quicker cause my bike is green.

May 27th, 2009, 07:39 PM	#211
bluphobic ninjette.org member Name: W Location: atlanta Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 46	Checked all connections, even swapped ballasts. It still has the occasional issue of flickering and not turning on at all. Is there anything else to consider?

May 27th, 2009, 07:46 PM	#212
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	did you try swapping bulbs like kkim suggested?

May 27th, 2009, 07:49 PM	#213
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	when you swapped ballasts, the problem did not follow the ballast? that is, the problem remained on the low light side... is that correct? if the problem did not follow the ballast switch, swap the bulbs between the high and low lights while leaving everything else the same.

May 27th, 2009, 07:50 PM	#214
Sound Wave Ramen Rider Name: Gary Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2015 BMW R1200R, 08 Honda VFR800A (sold), 09 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	process of elimination.

May 28th, 2009, 02:40 AM	#215
xpander37 ninjette.org member Name: Tony Location: Illinois Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r Posts: 20	like paterick, i also got xentec off ebay ($50).... it was for use with motorcycles or autos..... came with a little adapter so that washers were not needed for installs on a motorcycle(had to dremel it a bit to fit)...... the adapter also made it so the factory rubber housing would fit snug around it, so no rubber housing mods were needed..... huge difference, they sure are superbright.... over all a pretty easy install took me about an hr (minus bodywork disassembled).... was taking my time with the wiring (pretty lengthy wiring i must say).... recommended to everyone! for $50 you cant go wrong.

May 28th, 2009, 07:12 AM	#216
bluphobic ninjette.org member Name: W Location: atlanta Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: 46	When i installed the HID's, i just did the low beam. Haven't had a chance to test another bulb.

June 12th, 2009, 01:42 AM	#217
undergroundzombi ninjette.org newbie Name: andy Location: bethlehem pa Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): none yet 250r in 2 weeks Posts: 5	I was wondering if you could tell me what to type in exactly on ebay so I get the right part. For one, I don't know what bulb type as I am picking up my 03 pre gen in less than 2 weeks and The ebay link is no longer valid. And this is a sweet diy. I'm good with mods but you just knocked out the guest work. Thanks for saving me some beer time in between steps Posted via Mobile Device

June 12th, 2009, 02:04 AM	#218
undergroundzombi ninjette.org newbie Name: andy Location: bethlehem pa Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): none yet 250r in 2 weeks Posts: 5	Sorry I missed the post someone answered h7's before as well as you stated but is there any specific company you prefer or wattage. Posted via Mobile Device

June 12th, 2009, 03:40 AM	#219
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	If you do a search on ebay for "hid lights", you will see many listings. Here is one of several that resembles what I purchased (roughly same price with shipping!!): http://tinyurl.com/mhbyno And I bought the 4300K in a 35W. Everything in the package looks just like mine.

June 12th, 2009, 06:25 AM	#220
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Why did you quote the entire DIY?

June 12th, 2009, 07:03 AM	#221
Justanothermp5 ninjette.org member Name: Simon Location: Linden, NC Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 81	i just put the DDM slim line kit in my 09 didnt need to do any crap with those plastic washers just like i thought i wouldnt i just used the spacer that came in the kit, cut one corner off and it fits perfectly havent rode at night yet but its like the freakin sun is comin from my bike when i pull it in the garage lol got 8k or 6k, cant remember i got it off my other forums (mazdas247) for 90 with the lifetime warranty still

June 22nd, 2009, 01:27 PM	#224
shift_6 ninjette.org member Name: SHIFT Location: QUEENS, NYC Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Candy Plasma Blue Posts: 125	wait, isn't putting HID's in a reflective housing bad? [cuz it causes so much glare?]

June 22nd, 2009, 03:30 PM	#227
paterick4o8 ninjette.org sage Name: patricK Location: San Jose, CA--BAY AREA! Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 blue 250R [sold]. '09 lime ZX-6R [stolen :( ]. '06 blue 636. Posts: 918	from my experience, 1) they do indeed help me see better 2) they help others (especially cagers) see me better in day and night 3) they look cool!

June 23rd, 2009, 03:49 PM	#229
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	most times it's due to mis aimed headlights, plus the fact that they are idiots. To be honest though, if they have a dual filament type of bulb setup (which a lot of those Hondas do), the aftermarket HIDs do not make the transition as well, so I would tend to agree with you as the reflector assembly/bulb center focus themselves are poor candidates for a HID kit.

June 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM	#231
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	remember to repoint them, if they are not adjusted correctly.... the headlights, I mean.

June 30th, 2009, 09:30 PM	#233
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	I did my hid install today with full fairing removal and lowering in 1 hr. I have installed hids in many cars so it wasn't anything new. Just one problem I am having which doesn't seem to relate but my left turn signal is not blinking but on constant and almost like a bulb blow out but not, I checked. I was a clumsy idiot after getting everything back together and went to take the bike off the rear stand and poof the bike falls over to the right. No major damage and found out about the signal thing when I started to ride. Any help would be great. Regards Chan

June 30th, 2009, 10:09 PM	#234
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	Feeling really stupid at the moment. Found out the problem. I forgot to plug the left side back in after taking the fairing off.

June 30th, 2009, 10:20 PM	#236
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	Simplest things are always the culprits. They are aimed perfectly now since its dark..

July 1st, 2009, 11:10 AM	#238
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	Around this time a year the sun goes down are 9 and fully sets around 9:30ish. Yeah its nice to have sun longer. Winter time its like 5 sucks... I aimed my lights and rode and they seem to high and when i check behind a car the cutoff is about an inch below the trunk line. I tried to adjust more turning the adjustment screw counterclockwise and it's tight and won't want to move. Help!!

July 2nd, 2009, 12:32 AM	#240
Ninjaboi57 ninjette.org member Name: Chanh Location: Kent,WA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 29	The beam seems too high when i ride and lights up trees and what not but not the road. Only glare beaming off the lights reflecting on to the road. I would like to try to adjust lower to the road. Did I mention i am lowered in front and rear. Could this be the problem? That my rear is lower than the front hence light pointing up too much? I will take a pic. Kinda annoying that the lights are lighting up half a house up top and not below. Chan