Dyno Results: Stock 300 vs. Stock 250 vs. Race 250

gt_turbo · October 5th, 2012, 10:16 AM

All I can say is, I'm going to have to get one!

cuong-nutz · October 5th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Finally some non bias real time factual numbers

psych0hans · October 5th, 2012, 10:24 AM

WOW!!! thanks for posting this. I think this was something quiet a few people on here are going to appreciate, coz there was some confusion about how a race spec 250 would fare against the stock 300... Well, now we know

Jiggles · October 5th, 2012, 10:28 AM

I wonder If this has ever been posted before???

Byakkotai · October 5th, 2012, 10:29 AM

Some more dynos, although people interested in the 300 might have already seen them, sorry if I reposted anything!! Critique away!

Link to original page on YouTube.

Alex · October 5th, 2012, 10:38 AM

Some are reposts, but no reason not to have a separate Dyno thread for these babies.

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 10:42 AM

where is the 4th result for the "race" 300?? i'm gonna guess it gets to 36 with a pipe and tune job.

Jiggles · October 5th, 2012, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

where is the 4th result for the "race" 300?? i'm gonna guess it gets to 36 with a pipe and tune job.

I think it will go higher

mkulchar · October 5th, 2012, 11:13 AM

its pretty sad when u need a slipper clutch in a 300.lol

but ofcourse the specs are going be higher totally dif technology with EFI and 50cc bigger engine.

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 11:30 AM

:/ i want a slipper clutch

i wonder if the crank shaft in the 300 vs the 250 is the same.............. slipper upgrade anyone?

Alex · October 5th, 2012, 11:52 AM

The slipper wasn't the goal (IMO). They wanted to keep the clutch pull light, even with the larger engine. The new clutch design, which they buy outright from FCC, has as its main design features a much lighter pull, which also is related to its slipper functionality.

CC Cowboy · October 5th, 2012, 11:54 AM

I feel so embarassed for ever buying a 250. I should have waited for the 300.

mkulchar · October 5th, 2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I feel so embarassed for ever buying a 250. I should have waited for the 300.

2nd that.

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

The slipper wasn't the goal (IMO). They wanted to keep the clutch pull light, even with the larger engine. The new clutch design, which they buy outright from FCC, has as its main design features a much lighter pull, which also is related to its slipper functionality.

have you tried opening her up yet? do you notice the slipper letting out when popping down a couple gears?

Alex · October 5th, 2012, 01:51 PM

One of the first things I tried.

Went down to 2nd from 5th while still moving at a reasonable speed, and dumped the clutch. Very minor lockup for just a moment, but the slipper then worked as advertised and broke free enough to keep the engine from revving much at all. So it works.

But - I'm not a fan of the clutch in general. The feel is somewhat vague and soft, so when clutching/declutching very quickly, it seems like there is a slight delay before it's fully engaged and driving in the next gear. The clutch feel is a little less direct than how it feels in the 08-12's. It's not a huge concern, but it's not a step forward, either.

gt_turbo · October 5th, 2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkulchar

its pretty sad when u need a slipper clutch in a 300.lol

but ofcourse the specs are going be higher totally dif technology with EFI and 50cc bigger engine.

how is it a negative if it's going to make the bike safer for noobs? and this feature will be a welcomed addition for track riders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byakkotai

Some more dynos, although people interested in the 300 might have already seen them, sorry if I reposted anything!! Critique away!

Link to original page on YouTube.

thanks for proving that green is the fastest!

eddieA6987 · October 5th, 2012, 05:18 PM

Sweeet the last video of the white bike from broward motorsports is my bike hahaha i had them throw it on the dyno. I have the print out as well. They told me they where going to youtube it

ninja250r81 · October 6th, 2012, 11:43 PM

ninja250r, ninja300, cbr250r dyno chart

Link to full article on Cycle World

Alex · October 7th, 2012, 07:55 AM

/merged

Kevin2109 · October 7th, 2012, 11:12 PM

This little thin is impressive!!

GlassAnkles · October 8th, 2012, 12:30 PM

dammit, i just sold my 250 to free up some cash a few months ago, now you guys keep posting white 300's

me wants

Sapper · October 8th, 2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

The slipper wasn't the goal (IMO). They wanted to keep the clutch pull light, even with the larger engine. The new clutch design, which they buy outright from FCC, has as its main design features a much lighter pull, which also is related to its slipper functionality.

The pull is super light and the slipper (although useless for me) is fun to deliberately try and overwhelm. Haven't locked mine up yet.

Apex · October 8th, 2012, 08:55 PM

http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/10/05...300-dyno-test/

Video:
http://bcove.me/yvtmq41n

Not bad!

Jiggles · October 8th, 2012, 09:23 PM

This has never been posted before.

Ever.

You are the first.

Great find.

Lot of new information in this video.

Some novel stuff.

Glad I watched.

Alex · October 8th, 2012, 10:00 PM

/merged

Monkeytofu · October 8th, 2012, 10:03 PM

At least you tried CBR250, at least you tried.

Apex · October 8th, 2012, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

This has never been posted before.

Ever.

You are the first.

Great find.

Lot of new information in this video.

Some novel stuff.

Glad I watched.

Yeah, it was merged. Didn't see it in the thread...

Imma

October 5th, 2012, 10:16 AM	#1
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Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	Some more dynos, although people interested in the 300 might have already seen them, sorry if I reposted anything!! Critique away! Link to original page on YouTube. Link to original page on YouTube.

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October 5th, 2012, 10:42 AM	#7
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	where is the 4th result for the "race" 300?? i'm gonna guess it gets to 36 with a pipe and tune job. __________________________________________________

October 5th, 2012, 11:13 AM	#9
mkulchar ninjette.org member Name: matthew Location: niagara Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250r ninja Posts: 115	its pretty sad when u need a slipper clutch in a 300.lol but ofcourse the specs are going be higher totally dif technology with EFI and 50cc bigger engine. Last futzed with by mkulchar; October 5th, 2012 at 01:33 PM.

October 5th, 2012, 11:30 AM	#10
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	:/ i want a slipper clutch i wonder if the crank shaft in the 300 vs the 250 is the same.............. slipper upgrade anyone? __________________________________________________

October 5th, 2012, 11:52 AM	#11
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	The slipper wasn't the goal (IMO). They wanted to keep the clutch pull light, even with the larger engine. The new clutch design, which they buy outright from FCC, has as its main design features a much lighter pull, which also is related to its slipper functionality. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	I feel so embarassed for ever buying a 250. I should have waited for the 300. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

October 5th, 2012, 01:51 PM	#15
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	One of the first things I tried. Went down to 2nd from 5th while still moving at a reasonable speed, and dumped the clutch. Very minor lockup for just a moment, but the slipper then worked as advertised and broke free enough to keep the engine from revving much at all. So it works. But - I'm not a fan of the clutch in general. The feel is somewhat vague and soft, so when clutching/declutching very quickly, it seems like there is a slight delay before it's fully engaged and driving in the next gear. The clutch feel is a little less direct than how it feels in the 08-12's. It's not a huge concern, but it's not a step forward, either. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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eddieA6987 ninjette.org member Name: Eddie Location: West Palm Beach Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 300 white/black Posts: 28	Sweeet the last video of the white bike from broward motorsports is my bike hahaha i had them throw it on the dyno. I have the print out as well. They told me they where going to youtube it

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GlassAnkles ninjette.org member Name: Mo Location: KS Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 02 zx-12r, 13 zx-10r abs Posts: 245	dammit, i just sold my 250 to free up some cash a few months ago, now you guys keep posting white 300's me wants

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