11,000rpm+

Yasko · April 27th, 2011, 10:11 PM

I now have around 2500 miles under my belt, and I'm just now running the bike over 9,000rpm... What a blast it is to ride up in the 11,000+ rpm range...

The lil ninja is very stable on the highway when you lay on the tank at 90mph(gps speed)...

Great bike to learn how to ride.. Thank God I only have 25hp...

kkim · April 27th, 2011, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

What a blast it is to ride up in the 11,000+ rpm range...

no kidding.

Cab305 · April 27th, 2011, 11:44 PM

You have to try it at the track, it's even more fun, when you turn!

JeffM · April 28th, 2011, 07:48 AM

Just wait till you suprise yourself by bouncing off the rpm limiter

Jeff

LoneRonin · April 28th, 2011, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffM

Just wait till you suprise yourself by bouncing off the rpm limiter

Jeff

now thats a certain way of knowing you're ready for an upgrade...when you're going through the twisty sections full throttle bouncing off the limiter, in every gear. If you can't ride like that, no need to upgrade.

rockNroll · April 28th, 2011, 08:06 AM

Wow, you waited a long time!

Yasko · April 28th, 2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockNroll

Wow, you waited a long time!

I don't want to ride over my head...

I never thought I'd own a motorcycle, so I have to be careful...

It's more fun to ride a small bike hard, than to ride a big bike slow...

onizthegnome · April 28th, 2011, 09:47 AM

what happens when you bounce off the rev limiter?

bdavison · April 28th, 2011, 12:53 PM

It goes rwentwaateetwaaatwaaaa...and it wont go any faster.

rockNroll · April 28th, 2011, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavison

It goes rwentwaateetwaaatwaaaa...and it wont go any faster.

exactly this

bluepoof · April 28th, 2011, 01:15 PM

I keep thinking I'm running out of gas or something only to look down and, nope, just hit the limiter again.

cuong-nutz · April 28th, 2011, 02:04 PM

I didn't do your typical break-in and rode it like I stole it. This bike loves the high revs

Bols · April 28th, 2011, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

I didn't do your typical break-in and rode it like I stole it. This bike loves the high revs

Indeed, these engines loves revs! The break-in suggested in the manual seems way too modest rpm-wise, and too long. Seems to me they just print the same numbers on everything from choppers and offroad bikes to racingbikes. In my manual, it said 4k rpm in the beginning. And the highway home from the bike shop is 80km/h, which means there is no way to keep the bike under 4k rpm, i mean the bike doesn't even pull below 5-6k rpm! But using abit common sense is good, not going all out on a cold engine.

Green Streak · April 28th, 2011, 03:17 PM

Yeah, the break-in RPM is rediculous, if you have to go on any highways at all you have to go over the recommended RPMs. You could stick to just secondary roads, but that is just not very realistic.

aristurtle · April 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM

My bike seems to burn oil once I start going above 10,000. Not that that stops me! But keep an eye on it and top it off as needed, especially if you start smelling burning oil every time you slow down.

Yasko · April 28th, 2011, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluepoof

I keep thinking I'm running out of gas or something only to look down and, nope, just hit the limiter again.

Wow, by the end of summer I'll be at that point...

GeorgiaHooligan · May 10th, 2011, 05:19 PM

You know every kawasaki is redlined during testing before its released for sales and shipped.

kkim · May 10th, 2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaHooligan

You know every kawasaki is redlined during testing before its released for sales and shipped.

proof?

bdavison · May 10th, 2011, 06:18 PM

Its true, the first thing kawasaki does after it rolls off the assembly line is to ride it right into a dyno at the end of the assembly line, and redline the shiz out of it. They do it with every bike from the 250R all the way up to the 14's.

They also record the results with the VIN number for every bike. So if the bike ever comes back for some reason, they can pull up what it did on the dyno at assembly, and it gives them data to either fix design,mechanical, or engineering problems.

Live2ride · May 10th, 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

proof?

I actually watched a documentary on this. They showed how they make a few of the bikes from start to finish; It was interesting to watch. They showed clips of the people taking them straight off the end of the assembly line and they rode it over to the dyno, then they rode the shiz out of it. You could hear it rather clearly and the commentator even stated that they test the full extent of every gear before approving it. That enough proof for'ya?

kkim · May 10th, 2011, 07:05 PM

were they Kawasakis or some exotic, exclusive type bikes?

kkim · May 10th, 2011, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavison

Its true, the first thing kawasaki does after it rolls off the assembly line is to ride it right into a dyno at the end of the assembly line, and redline the shiz out of it. They do it with every bike from the 250R all the way up to the 14's.

They also record the results with the VIN number for every bike. So if the bike ever comes back for some reason, they can pull up what it did on the dyno at assembly, and it gives them data to either fix design,mechanical, or engineering problems.

not that I doubt you, but exactly how do you know this?

bdavison · May 10th, 2011, 07:19 PM

The easiest way to verify what we are saying is to watch the "twist of the wrist" documentary specifically about kawasaki. They show it at the end of the show, and talk about it.

I even tryed contacting kawasaki to get the dyno results from my bike, but they said they dont release them, they are only for internal use by the engineers and designers.

Each bike starts with a barcoded label that specifies the specific bike being built. They scan this barcode at every step of construction to ensure the right parts make it onto the bike, and that the right tools are used. At the end of the assembly line, special kawasaki employees start the bike, warm it up, ride it into the dyno, scan the barcode which loads up the dyno program for that specific bike, and then runs it through the dyno program.

The kawasaki rep told me they use it for a couple of reasons. It ensures consistancy across the bikes leaving the factory, they all have to be within specs or they pull the bike to find out what went wrong. Also they store the data so they can pull it up later if needed.

Live2ride · May 10th, 2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

were they Kawasakis or some exotic, exclusive type bikes?

It was a documentary on Kawasaki's history of their bikes, how they have evolved over the years and how they are/were made. I just found this video, but my internet is too slow for me to watch much of it, I'm not sure if this is the same documentary I watched.

kkim · May 10th, 2011, 07:48 PM

lol... well, what do you know? they don't say they ride the shiz out of them... they simply warm up the bikes and dyno them according to the model. regardless, I didn't know they actually did that and stored the data. thanks for the link to the show.

really funny thing is, I said the exact thing about what they do on another forum years ago, just making stuff up off the top of my head, bs'ing about how they tested and stored the data of each new bike they built and kept records of it in a secret vault. who the hell know it was true!

guess this proves they put the strongest motors in the green bikes!

thanks... I learned something.

Yasko · May 10th, 2011, 09:04 PM

Good info...

Live2ride · May 10th, 2011, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

lol... well, what do you know? they don't say they ride the shiz out of them... they simply warm up the bikes and dyno them according to the model. regardless, I didn't know they actually did that and stored the data. thanks for the link to the show.

really funny thing is, I said the exact thing about what they do on another forum years ago, just making stuff up off the top of my head, bs'ing about how they tested and stored the data of each new bike they built and kept records of it in a secret vault. who the hell know it was true!

guess this proves they put the strongest motors in the green bikes!

thanks... I learned something.

Well, If that's the same documentary that I watched a few months back then I'm wrong. There...I admit it

. Wishful thinking I guess

. But I thought it was cool about the whole data thing, it makes a lot of sense too.

ock1 · May 12th, 2011, 06:18 PM

That Twist of the Wrist documentary also said every Kawasaki was made in the Japan factory, when the 250's are actually built in Thailand.

kkim · May 12th, 2011, 06:47 PM

Yeah, but I'm sure mother Kawasaki dictates build and test procedures even though it's assembled in another country to retain quality control.

LoneRonin · May 12th, 2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ock1

That Twist of the Wrist documentary also said every Kawasaki was made in the Japan factory, when the 250's are actually built in Thailand.

at the time it was filmed I don't even think the new 250r was rolling off the assembly line. Can anyone verify where the pregens were built?

coondog · May 17th, 2011, 03:23 PM

Change to Thailand is recent, twist of wrist is classic already. My pre-gen has a 14k redline. Originally the tachs. were marked as such and then one year 13k showed up with absolutely no variatons in bike fleets set-up. 11k rpm is just getting to where the bike wants to be all the time.

Yasko · May 17th, 2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coondog

11k rpm is just getting to where the bike wants to be all the time.

Yea the bike is very stable at 11k+ when you lay on the tank...

This lil bike is a Big surprise to me... I have friends that got bigger bikes and they're still crawling around afraid of the power... They're tripping out that I can run 90mph+ already... They're afraid to even get on the highway, and we got our bikes a few weeks apart...

The lil Ninja is a great teacher...

vkuchhal · May 17th, 2011, 09:39 PM

I tried yesterday to rev the baby to 14.5 k rpm and the rev limiter did not set in..

any comments on that?

bluesinorbit · May 17th, 2011, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vkuchhal

I tried yesterday to rev the baby to 14.5 k rpm and the rev limiter did not set in..

any comments on that?

Engine damage much?

vkuchhal · May 18th, 2011, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesinorbit

Engine damage much?

Not sure about it... but why didn't the rev limiter set in..?

almost40 · May 18th, 2011, 08:46 AM

Was the motor hot? Was the outside temp hot? I would say that the tach reading is inaccurate by 1000 to 1500 rpm. Its a common problem on the new gens. Theres a few threads about the issue.

bluepoof · May 18th, 2011, 08:48 AM

What do you mean by "did not set in"? The needle stayed at 14.5 but the engine kept pulling past that?

coondog · May 18th, 2011, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

Yea the bike is very stable at 11k+ when you lay on the tank...

This lil bike is a Big surprise to me... I have friends that got bigger bikes and they're still crawling around afraid of the power... They're tripping out that I can run 90mph+ already... They're afraid to even get on the highway, and we got our bikes a few weeks apart...

The lil Ninja is a great teacher...

A GREAT teacher AND keeper. 11k is pretty much where most people I know (online) run her when possible, I thinks it maintains 80mph? there. And yeah, the dreaded head buffeting comes along. This dude Duke on ninja250.org developed a much higher screen years back, don't know what came of it. Do know double bubble came out after and the flocks went to them, never been behind either.
Make sure you don't forget how you were riding previously, continue varying your girls rpms, rpm shift points up and down, high speed runs and breaks, really work her up into a lather and then pull over into some shade or be home so she can cool down. Plus you'll be learning her braking patterns and your throttle pressures (for slowing or braking). I said one day I didn't do much of that and realized I'm doing it all the time, just on automatic from 6 years on my 05. Glad all is progressing, safely.

Yasko · May 18th, 2011, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coondog

A GREAT teacher AND keeper. 11k is pretty much where most people I know (online) run her when possible, I thinks it maintains 80mph? there. And yeah, the dreaded head buffeting comes along. This dude Duke on ninja250.org developed a much higher screen years back, don't know what came of it. Do know double bubble came out after and the flocks went to them, never been behind either.
Make sure you don't forget how you were riding previously, continue varying your girls rpms, rpm shift points up and down, high speed runs and breaks, really work her up into a lather and then pull over into some shade or be home so she can cool down. Plus you'll be learning her braking patterns and your throttle pressures (for slowing or braking). I said one day I didn't do much of that and realized I'm doing it all the time, just on automatic from 6 years on my 05. Glad all is progressing, safely.

I think if I sold her I'd have such remorse... I'm just getting to find her g-spot.

When I do, I'm gonna stroke her, and stroke her over, and over again...

Oh, and 65mpg...

Mizono · May 19th, 2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

I think if I sold her I'd have such remorse... I'm just getting to find her g-spot.

When I do, I'm gonna stroke her, and stroke her over, and over again...

Oh, and 65mpg...

TMI ALERT TMI ALERT......wait you meant your bike!!!!! in that case carry on!!!

but seriously im learning mine too and boy the higher the RPM's the happier she is!!!

April 27th, 2011, 10:11 PM	#1
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	11,000rpm+ I now have around 2500 miles under my belt, and I'm just now running the bike over 9,000rpm... What a blast it is to ride up in the 11,000+ rpm range... The lil ninja is very stable on the highway when you lay on the tank at 90mph(gps speed)... Great bike to learn how to ride.. Thank God I only have 25hp...

April 28th, 2011, 07:48 AM	#4
JeffM Mr. 988 Name: Jeff Location: Sandy, Utah Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): One Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Just wait till you suprise yourself by bouncing off the rpm limiter Jeff __________________________________________________ "I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life, the way I want to" - Jimi Hendrix Cancer

April 28th, 2011, 08:06 AM	#6
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	Wow, you waited a long time! __________________________________________________ Always get a second opinion because most of these people are makin' this stuff up

April 28th, 2011, 09:47 AM	#8
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April 28th, 2011, 01:15 PM	#11
bluepoof ninjette.org sage Name: Carolyn Location: San Carlos, CA Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250, 2002 Yamaha XT225 Posts: 597	I keep thinking I'm running out of gas or something only to look down and, nope, just hit the limiter again. __________________________________________________ www.bluepoof.com

April 27th, 2011, 11:44 PM	#3
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	You have to try it at the track, it's even more fun, when you turn!

April 28th, 2011, 12:53 PM	#9
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	It goes rwentwaateetwaaatwaaaa...and it wont go any faster.

April 28th, 2011, 02:04 PM	#12
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	I didn't do your typical break-in and rode it like I stole it. This bike loves the high revs __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

April 28th, 2011, 03:17 PM	#14
Green Streak Ninjette Owner Name: Rick Location: Aiken County, SC Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, a puddle of Ninja ZX6 Posts: 520	Yeah, the break-in RPM is rediculous, if you have to go on any highways at all you have to go over the recommended RPMs. You could stick to just secondary roads, but that is just not very realistic. __________________________________________________

April 28th, 2011, 04:40 PM	#15
aristurtle ninjette.org member Name: aristurtle Location: Bodymore, Murdaland Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 10	My bike seems to burn oil once I start going above 10,000. Not that that stops me! But keep an eye on it and top it off as needed, especially if you start smelling burning oil every time you slow down.

May 10th, 2011, 05:19 PM	#17
GeorgiaHooligan ninjette.org guru Name: Aaron Location: Gone riding. Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 389	You know every kawasaki is redlined during testing before its released for sales and shipped.

May 10th, 2011, 06:18 PM	#19
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	Its true, the first thing kawasaki does after it rolls off the assembly line is to ride it right into a dyno at the end of the assembly line, and redline the shiz out of it. They do it with every bike from the 250R all the way up to the 14's. They also record the results with the VIN number for every bike. So if the bike ever comes back for some reason, they can pull up what it did on the dyno at assembly, and it gives them data to either fix design,mechanical, or engineering problems.

May 10th, 2011, 07:05 PM	#21
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	were they Kawasakis or some exotic, exclusive type bikes?

May 10th, 2011, 07:19 PM	#23
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	The easiest way to verify what we are saying is to watch the "twist of the wrist" documentary specifically about kawasaki. They show it at the end of the show, and talk about it. I even tryed contacting kawasaki to get the dyno results from my bike, but they said they dont release them, they are only for internal use by the engineers and designers. Each bike starts with a barcoded label that specifies the specific bike being built. They scan this barcode at every step of construction to ensure the right parts make it onto the bike, and that the right tools are used. At the end of the assembly line, special kawasaki employees start the bike, warm it up, ride it into the dyno, scan the barcode which loads up the dyno program for that specific bike, and then runs it through the dyno program. The kawasaki rep told me they use it for a couple of reasons. It ensures consistancy across the bikes leaving the factory, they all have to be within specs or they pull the bike to find out what went wrong. Also they store the data so they can pull it up later if needed.

May 10th, 2011, 07:48 PM	#25
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol... well, what do you know? they don't say they ride the shiz out of them... they simply warm up the bikes and dyno them according to the model. regardless, I didn't know they actually did that and stored the data. thanks for the link to the show. really funny thing is, I said the exact thing about what they do on another forum years ago, just making stuff up off the top of my head, bs'ing about how they tested and stored the data of each new bike they built and kept records of it in a secret vault. who the hell know it was true! guess this proves they put the strongest motors in the green bikes! thanks... I learned something.

May 10th, 2011, 09:04 PM	#26
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	Good info...

May 12th, 2011, 06:18 PM	#28
ock1 ninjette.org newbie Name: Winsean Location: Highlands Ranch Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r Posts: 4	That Twist of the Wrist documentary also said every Kawasaki was made in the Japan factory, when the 250's are actually built in Thailand.

May 12th, 2011, 06:47 PM	#29
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Yeah, but I'm sure mother Kawasaki dictates build and test procedures even though it's assembled in another country to retain quality control.

May 17th, 2011, 03:23 PM	#31
coondog ninjette.org sage Name: john Location: Palm Beach County, Fl Sligo County, Eire Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ninja 250 street fighter, 2008 street fighter ninja 500, 2001 nsr 125 Posts: 812	Change to Thailand is recent, twist of wrist is classic already. My pre-gen has a 14k redline. Originally the tachs. were marked as such and then one year 13k showed up with absolutely no variatons in bike fleets set-up. 11k rpm is just getting to where the bike wants to be all the time.

May 17th, 2011, 09:39 PM	#33
vkuchhal ninjette.org member Name: vibhor Location: india Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r -2010 Posts: 60	I tried yesterday to rev the baby to 14.5 k rpm and the rev limiter did not set in.. any comments on that?

May 18th, 2011, 08:46 AM	#36
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	Was the motor hot? Was the outside temp hot? I would say that the tach reading is inaccurate by 1000 to 1500 rpm. Its a common problem on the new gens. Theres a few threads about the issue. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

May 18th, 2011, 08:48 AM	#37
bluepoof ninjette.org sage Name: Carolyn Location: San Carlos, CA Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250, 2002 Yamaha XT225 Posts: 597	What do you mean by "did not set in"? The needle stayed at 14.5 but the engine kept pulling past that? __________________________________________________ www.bluepoof.com

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