New European Rules For Motorcycle Gear

Ghostt · January 25th, 2016, 02:51 PM

A victory for ATGATT and safety standards, hopefully US and DOT will follow.

It will help persons obtain safer gear, and hopefully help consumers to avoid substandard gear. Just like helmets.

http://www.fema-online.eu/website/in...torcycle-gear/

VaFish · January 26th, 2016, 06:43 AM

How long before "approved" clothing wear is mandated (like helmets in many US states). Driving the cost of riding a motorcycle out of reach of many people.

I'm all for a rating system of gear with standardized testing protocol conducted by independent labs. But, I really hate the intrusion into peoples lives by mandated gear.

adouglas · January 26th, 2016, 08:08 AM

HoneyBadgerRy · January 26th, 2016, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaFish

How long before "approved" clothing wear is mandated (like helmets in many US states). Driving the cost of riding a motorcycle out of reach of many people.

I'm all for a rating system of gear with standardized testing protocol conducted by independent labs. But, I really hate the intrusion into peoples lives by mandated gear.

This exactly, we need a rating to know that the gear we have is safer than just a DOT or SNELL approval, but I don't want to be forced to wear leathers when I take the bike around the block to check jetting.

VaFish · January 26th, 2016, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadgerRy

This exactly, we need a rating to know that the gear we have is safer than just a DOT or SNELL approval, but I don't want to be forced to wear leathers when I take the bike around the block to check jetting.

It would be nice to have a consumer reports rating system for motorcycle gear.

MBZuki · February 8th, 2016, 09:10 AM

I like the idea of having minimum standards for abrasion and whatnot. I can't see it ever going down the path of mandating gear though.

Suki2003 · February 8th, 2016, 11:58 AM

I'm another vote for more standards and testing, but NOT for mandating wearing gear by law. For the sake of freedom and liberty...

RacinNinja · February 8th, 2016, 12:02 PM

It's not a victory for ATTGAT since there is no mandate that riders must wear approved gear.

Only that the gear being sold must adhere to certain standards. Which is a good thing.

Freedom of choice is unhindered.

Ghostt · February 8th, 2016, 04:47 PM

I respectfully disagree,

It's not about mandating the rider to wear, it's an industry standard limits, like DOT and SNELL standards for safety equipment.

It gives the rider a level of safety like buying gear that is CE rated, as opposed to cheap gear that might not do the job.

I'm not about forcing others to wear gear, just educate people.

RacinNinja · February 8th, 2016, 04:50 PM

AH, it depends on how you interpret your ATTGAT statement. I interpreted it to mean that more people would be ATTGAT because a law was passed to force wearing of equipment.

What you really meant was that it is a victory for ATTGAT subscribers as the gear we buy and wear will be more protective.

Understood. Agreed.

Ghostt · February 8th, 2016, 04:52 PM

Exactly

Abu_Mishary · February 15th, 2016, 01:46 AM

In Malaysia, i guess the trendy "safety" standard for clothing wear are like these.....

Suki2003 · February 15th, 2016, 06:30 AM

This should never result in a law. Screw new laws. Why give up some freedoms for a feeling of safety and comfort???

A rating system with testing of gear is a great solution. so this is good.

I'm sure we would all like to know how the gear we will be wearing will hold up in a wreck.

HoneyBadgerRy · February 16th, 2016, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suki2003

I'm sure we would all like to know how the gear we will be wearing will hold up in a wreck.

Some of us already know.

Suki2003 · February 16th, 2016, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadgerRy

Some of us already know.

I learned last year. Gear worked. Walked away from a 70mph tank slapper on the pavement.
Gear is cheaper than health insurance copay.... and the lack of pain is beyond worth it

VaFish · February 16th, 2016, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suki2003

This should never result in a law. Screw new laws. Why give up some freedoms for a feeling of safety and comfort???

A rating system with testing of gear is a great solution. so this is good.

I'm sure we would all like to know how the gear we will be wearing will hold up in a wreck.

Well if history is any indicator, look at helmet laws.

First there was no rating or testing of helmets, then in 1956 Snell died in a race car crash. It was a minor crash he could have survived if his helmet had protected him. The race car crowd wanted quality helmets and the helmet manufacturers supported testing and standards. By 1959 the first independent testing standards were developed. By 1967 we had mandatory motorcycle helmet laws being pushed by the federal government withholding highway funding for states without universal helmet laws. Within 4 years almost all of the states had mandatory helmet laws.

I wouldn't be surprised to see mandatory motorcycle protective gear laws in the next 5-10 years.

January 25th, 2016, 02:51 PM	#1
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January 26th, 2016, 08:08 AM	#3
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February 8th, 2016, 12:02 PM	#8
RacinNinja Vintage Screwball Name: B Location: Washington Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250, 2008 Ninja 250, 2019 KTM 1290SDR, 2017 FZ10 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '16	It's not a victory for ATTGAT since there is no mandate that riders must wear approved gear. Only that the gear being sold must adhere to certain standards. Which is a good thing. Freedom of choice is unhindered. __________________________________________________ Goin' fast on slow bikes!

February 8th, 2016, 04:47 PM	#9
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	I respectfully disagree, It's not about mandating the rider to wear, it's an industry standard limits, like DOT and SNELL standards for safety equipment. It gives the rider a level of safety like buying gear that is CE rated, as opposed to cheap gear that might not do the job. I'm not about forcing others to wear gear, just educate people. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

February 8th, 2016, 04:50 PM	#10
RacinNinja Vintage Screwball Name: B Location: Washington Join Date: Feb 2016 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250, 2008 Ninja 250, 2019 KTM 1290SDR, 2017 FZ10 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '16	AH, it depends on how you interpret your ATTGAT statement. I interpreted it to mean that more people would be ATTGAT because a law was passed to force wearing of equipment. What you really meant was that it is a victory for ATTGAT subscribers as the gear we buy and wear will be more protective. Understood. Agreed. __________________________________________________ Goin' fast on slow bikes!

January 26th, 2016, 06:43 AM	#2
VaFish ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Tom Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Jul 2015 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250, 2019 Harley Ultra Classic, 2001 Suzuki SV650 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '16	How long before "approved" clothing wear is mandated (like helmets in many US states). Driving the cost of riding a motorcycle out of reach of many people. I'm all for a rating system of gear with standardized testing protocol conducted by independent labs. But, I really hate the intrusion into peoples lives by mandated gear.

February 8th, 2016, 09:10 AM	#6
MBZuki ninjette.org member Name: Brad Location: Manitoba Join Date: Jan 2016 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the month Posts: 31	I like the idea of having minimum standards for abrasion and whatnot. I can't see it ever going down the path of mandating gear though.

February 8th, 2016, 11:58 AM	#7
Suki2003 Ninjette Lurker Name: Peter Location: Pittsburgh,PA Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja EX250 (Cafe, Naked, Wreckurrected) Posts: 72	I'm another vote for more standards and testing, but NOT for mandating wearing gear by law. For the sake of freedom and liberty...

February 8th, 2016, 04:52 PM	#11
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Exactly __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

February 15th, 2016, 06:30 AM	#13
Suki2003 Ninjette Lurker Name: Peter Location: Pittsburgh,PA Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2003 Ninja EX250 (Cafe, Naked, Wreckurrected) Posts: 72	This should never result in a law. Screw new laws. Why give up some freedoms for a feeling of safety and comfort??? A rating system with testing of gear is a great solution. so this is good. I'm sure we would all like to know how the gear we will be wearing will hold up in a wreck.

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