H.I.D kits

[Proto]

anyone know what hids would go good with the 2012, im thinking 6k

[toua70]

I have 8k on mine.

[Proto]

you know white size they are h4 or h7

[toua70]

It is the H7 for sure.

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Are HIDs hard to install?

[toua70]

Originally Posted by RiderOnTheStorm

Are HIDs hard to install?

No they are pretty easy to install. On a rating of 1 to 10 (10 being the hardest) i would say its a 3-4?

1. remove both fairings so you can get to the bulbs and mount the ballasts
2. remove bulbs (there's a video on youtube, can be done in less than 5 mins)
3. put in new bulb, connect to ballast and find a spot to place ballast
4. put everything back

I did mine under an hour. Also, I got mines off eBay. It cost me only 34 bucks with shipping and comes with two years warranty. Had them for almost a year now and they are still going strong.. and SUPER BRIGHT. If you check out on youtube, gsxr750speedemon (my username) i have a video where you can see where i hooked up my ballast on the 250.

[edxmon]

6K on my AV

[Proto]

So my thing is I'll need to get a different bulb for high beam right?

[toua70]

Originally Posted by Proto

So my thing is I'll need to get a different bulb for high beam right?

No both will be the same bulb. Bulb has nothing to do with hi beam. Maybe on a car but the ninja 250 both bulbs are the same

[Bob2010]

Why soo blue? I was thinking 5k low and 4300k high. I have 55w digital slim ballasts but still need to order the bulbs

[toua70]

I almost got green to match the bike but go white with a hint of blue instead. I don't regret it. Its really nice and very bright.

[Proto]

i was thinking 6k or 8k both bulbs being 55w

[toua70]

Originally Posted by Proto

i was thinking 6k or 8k both bulbs being 55w

its up to you but I did have bulbs before I switched to the kit with ballast. The bulbs I didn't like so I just gave them away.. btw, hows texas weather? lol my family lives in roanoke (around the dallas/ft worth area) we go fishing at lake lewisville everytime i visit, not sure if its different from where you are at but texas has good fishing! and hunting

[Proto]

yeah i might get the bulbs first but i was just going to grab em all at once and if i need more grab more, and its hot as always, roanoke nice i ride through there alot have a friend his dad is out there and fishing is as good as it gets a cold beer and a rod is a great weekend.

[toua70]

Originally Posted by Proto

yeah i might get the bulbs first but i was just going to grab em all at once and if i need more grab more, and its hot as always, roanoke nice i ride through there alot have a friend his dad is out there and fishing is as good as it gets a cold beer and a rod is a great weekend.

Yeah heard its been over 100 lately. I was there in april - caught a nice LMB out of the creek behind our house.. good times! also, did you mean you're getting HID bulbs now and ballast later? or just the bulbs to replace the stock lights? they're different.

[Proto]

im getting the kit with bulbs and balast at once

[toua70]

Originally Posted by Proto

im getting the kit with bulbs and balast at once

Oh okay. Yeah I would recommend that any idea what brand? I just bought the xentec one off ebay. Its not expensive but it does the job and super bright.

[Proto]

i really dont know im looking into that one ore the kensun.

[borka]

A word of advice on hid kits, the cheap hid kits might fog up the headlight lens from the inside, this is caused by UV rays which the hid bulbs emit.
It wont happen overnight, but slowly over a period of time you might start to notice foggy spots on the lens, which will get bigger over time.

I recommend to buy hid kits with better quality Quartz glass UV filtering hid bulbs, such as this kit:
http://bkmoto.com/index.php?route=pr...&product_id=75

[edxmon]

Originally Posted by borka

A word of advice on hid kits, the cheap hid kits might fog up the headlight lens from the inside, this is caused by UV rays which the hid bulbs emit.
It wont happen overnight, but slowly over a period of time you might start to notice foggy spots on the lens, which will get bigger over time.

I recommend to buy hid kits with better quality Quartz glass UV filtering hid bulbs, such as this kit:
http://bkmoto.com/index.php?route=pr...&product_id=75

Interesting, I'd like to hear any testimony from people who have been running "cheap" (DDM, Ebay, Xentec, etc.) HID kits for years on the newgen; never heard about this before. The headlight is hit with UV light from the outside all the time (mine is an 08) and no clouding whatsoever. I would guess that any damage on the inside would be due to the higher heat emitted by the bulbs and the plastic reacting to this than "UV" light

[GeneJunkie]

Originally Posted by borka

A word of advice on hid kits, the cheap hid kits might fog up the headlight lens from the inside, this is caused by UV rays which the hid bulbs emit.
It wont happen overnight, but slowly over a period of time you might start to notice foggy spots on the lens, which will get bigger over time.

I recommend to buy hid kits with better quality Quartz glass UV filtering hid bulbs, such as this kit:
http://bkmoto.com/index.php?route=pr...&product_id=75

I have DDM HIDs on my 2010 and I haven't had that issue. I know plenty of other people who run DDM's and I haven't heard of them having problems either. Wouldn't you get a sunburn from your HIDs or bleaching/damage of the bulb's own components if they didn't already have UV filtering? Plus if the bike is out every day and sitting in the sun it is getting blasted by UV rays already. I also think this is probably more heat related than UV radiation related.

FYI, I did get the 35W, plenty bright and doesn't run nearly as hot as the 55W.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

[borka]

Originally Posted by edxmon

Interesting, I'd like to head nay testimony from people who have been running "cheap" (DDM, Ebay, Xentec, etc.) HID kits for years on the newgen; never heard about this before. The headlight is hit with UV light from the outside all the time (mine is an 08) and no clouding whatsoever. I would guess that any damage on the inside would be due to the higher heat emitted by the bulbs and the plastic reacting to this than "UV" light

Originally Posted by GeneJunkie

I have DDM HIDs on my 2010 and I haven't had that issue. I know plenty of other people who run DDM's and I haven't heard of them having problems either. Wouldn't you get a sunburn from your HIDs or bleaching/damage of the bulb's own components if they didn't already have UV filtering? Plus if the bike is out every day and sitting in the sun it is getting blasted by UV rays already. I also think this is probably more heat related than UV radiation related.

FYI, I did get the 35W, plenty bright and doesn't run nearly as hot as the 55W.
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

I do projector retrofits for a living and i have seen a few headlights with hazy spots kinda pinkish bluish looking color on the reflectors and in some spots on the lens, exactly where the bulb shines the most.

They could be buffed out with alcohol pads, but that requires splitting the headlights.

its true the sun is shining all the time, and if you look at older cars the lenses get yellow and hazy.

so basically an hid bulb is 100x more intense when its on, as it shines super bright and much closer to the reflectors and lenses, so it might happen sooner or later.

read this review from a customer who actually had hazing from hid DDM kit and bought the bkmoto kit i've mentioned.
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=288991


Next time i have a headlight with the hazing i will post pictures.

[iNinja]

i've had xentec on my bike for just over 2 years with no hazing.

[Hunsy34]

How hard are these to install and does anyone have pics?

[choneofakind]

search. bar.

[Hunsy34]

I did just came up with how to do angel eyes and a bunch of other types of mods to the head lights I just want a simple replacement.

[choneofakind]

I have a butt ton of pictures ready for a DIY on how to do a hi/lo H4 kit from DDM tuning. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

It's really not hard at all. You just have to have some idea how to get it to work. The kits are pretty much PNP. HID's aren't really hard to install. Just make sure you vinyl off your headlight to block glare. I got most of the glare off of mine, but I'm definitely going to be looking into a projector. Vinyl just doesn't do as good of a job as I want.

note my insane headlight output that is mostly controlled (no scatter in the fog) The headlight is absolutely insane when you put it on high beam (points it up by pulling the bulb back further into the reflector) and walk about 50 yards out in front of the bike and look at it. It's blinding really. A hi/lo kit is needed so you can aim it down but point it up on command for a high beam.


and here's what my headlight looks like with vinyls to cut glare.

[Hunsy34]

I have a 2009 yours looks like the first gen ninja would that same kit work for the 2nd gen?

[choneofakind]

oh sorry, I saw a pregen in your picture and assumed you were talking about that one.

my bad


Then forget what I'm talking about. Get a bixenon projector, a basic HID kit with a D2S bulb, and just do a retrofit

[Hunsy34]

Where can I find them is ebay a good spot or is there another place I can get them? I want my headlights to be semi bluish too.

[choneofakind]

The retrofit source if you're looking to do a full retrofit.

If you're not, you're gonna be putting out a ton of glare. (DDM tuning kits seem to work fine and don't cost much)

Your high beam should still be halogen because HID's take a minute to warm up and you want your high beam to come on right away so you can flash if needed. It's also hard on HID bulbs to turn them on and off.

For real though, all this info is already on here. Plenty of people have popped an HID kit in their headlight.

[iNinja]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

The retrofit source if you're looking to do a full retrofit.

If you're not, you're gonna be putting out a ton of glare. (DDM tuning kits seem to work fine and don't cost much)

Your high beam should still be halogen because HID's take a minute to warm up and you want your high beam to come on right away so you can flash if needed. It's also hard on HID bulbs to turn them on and off.

For real though, all this info is already on here. Plenty of people have popped an HID kit in their headlight.

what's the best brightest halogen that is similar to a 6K HID ?

[choneofakind]

6k? idk. One of the Canadian guys found some color matched Halogens. I think they were Hella's and they were 6k color but I'm not sure off the top of my head.

You know a 4300k HID will roughly match a Sylvania Silverstar ultra in color from your point of view right? I have a 4500k HID from DDM and it's almost identical in color to my Silverstar, but with a little blue. The Silverstar was pure white. You could even go for a 3500k HID kit and that would be perfect prolly.